Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To have a romantic view of life as a SAHM?

139 replies

ConfusedMummy12 · 14/11/2024 21:35

I'm really struggling with my time management. I work school hours from home. I make a very easy meal in my lunch break, which I have for lunch and then we all have for dinner.
Otherwise, I work while kids are in school.
Do the basics housework (clean kitchen, laundry etc) when they get home.
And we split the rest of the housework between us evenings and weekends and have a cleaner 2 hrs a week.

AIBU to really want a break and be a SAHM for a while? I have this romantic notion that I'll actually get to do some yoga or swimming or something regularly, read a book, cook a wider variety of meals, clean the house myself while the kids are in school and actually be present with them when they get home, get on top of the backlog of decluttering and repainting etc, use weekends to visit family, etc.

Money would be tight, but I think we could manage...and if we don't I have enough savings to cover the time it would take to job hunt for something else...but I'm worried I'm being too optimistic about the grass being greener on the other side.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
RawBloomers · 21/11/2024 02:03

ApplesinmyPocket · 20/11/2024 12:56

Yes, I suppose if you are the sort of person who finds it impossible to avert boredom off your own bat or to find your own challenges, being a SAHM or a carer or retired must be difficult.

I find the issue with that is with being tied to tasks or a place and being unable to fully concentrate on other things. I can find plenty to do/interest me when I don’t have to entertain a toddler, or have half an ear out for something going wrong, or the like. But being unable to commit uninterrupted time (in particular uninterrupted well rested time!) makes any delve into another subject quite shallow and generally unsatisfying.

ApplesinmyPocket · 20/11/2024 12:56

Makingchocolatecake · 19/11/2024 20:25

I'd be very bored and feel unchallenged. Maternity leave was way too long for me.

Yes, I suppose if you are the sort of person who finds it impossible to avert boredom off your own bat or to find your own challenges, being a SAHM or a carer or retired must be difficult.

Makingchocolatecake · 19/11/2024 20:25

I'd be very bored and feel unchallenged. Maternity leave was way too long for me.

woffley · 19/11/2024 14:33

@Samphire44 . I was a civil servant from the 1970s to 2008.
They were ahead of the trend on women's employment and introduced job sharing in the 80s I think. By the time I had children in the 90s they allowed part time and part year contracts. I went part time when DC were 0 to 5 then part year so had school holidays off. Paid pro rata.

Job sharing was very unpopular once part time came in because you were tied to a partner. Lots of disadvantages compared to part time.

Samphire44 · 19/11/2024 12:28

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 16:01

I get that, but then am not sure why they would scratch their heads all perplexed when people leave the industry !

The civil service appears to support job sharers.
https://www.civil-service-careers.gov.uk/recruitment-process-for-job-sharers/

I am wondering if anyone has had any success with this? It is interesting that you have to identify and apply together as a partnership.

Civil Service Careers

Discover careers in the Civil Service

https://www.civil-service-careers.gov.uk/recruitment-process-for-job-sharers

ConfusedMummy12 · 19/11/2024 12:10

Thanks MNers!
So what I've done to try and keep my job is:

  • bought a tumble dryer to save time hanging clothes in the morning
  • used chat gpt to create a weekly menu
  • prep dinner before kids come down, but finish cooking when they're home
  • prioritise reading/yoga for 20 mins a day so I feel nourished

The hive mind has persuaded me to keep my job so hopefully these changes will help!

Funnily enough last week our cleaner cancelled, and its been a lot easier to keep on top of things after we spent some initial time doing what she normally does, as we're more thorough....so I feel like I may actually stop using a cleaner and just get a deep clean every 6 weeks or something!

OP posts:
toastandtwo · 16/11/2024 23:43

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 13:39

It's the morning that's the pinch point. I like to get set up for my day (put the laundry out, cook breakfast, eat breakfast, clear up after breakfast, chop some veggies in prep for dinner, etc), pack their snacks and water bottles.... - and they like connection, e.g. a 10 min play/reading to them while they eat... particularly the one with SEN who is v anxious about school.

Part of me felt like if I wasn't working I'd be able to leave that all, give them attention, and do it when I get home from drop off.

Snacks and water bottles can be done night before and left in fridge/school bags.

Can you have a breakfast that doesn’t require cooking? That way there isn’t much clean up either, and the kids can help with it.

And I agree with the PP who said get up earlier. DH and I always aim to be in the kitchen half an hour ahead of the kids in the morning so we do wake up quite a bit earlier than them.

Fittingitallin · 16/11/2024 10:38

Olduser1234 · 14/11/2024 21:43

I am old OP. When I had young DS I knew barely anyone who worked full time ( mothers, not fathers). I did do the lion's share of the housework but it was so... easy? In my current job I come across youngsters ( in their thirties!) who are trying so hard but are so up against it ( housing costs etc.). It is so hard for you now and I wish I could advise how to make it better.

Haven’t RTFT, but I was struck by your post! I know that every generation has it’s challenges, and many things were much harder for my mum and grandmas than they are for me… But I don’t often hear anyone acknowledge that our current version of “having it all” is really hard too sometimes. So thank you for making me feel a bit better this morning when I feel like I’m failing at everything!

Pussycat22 · 15/11/2024 22:51

These are my plans for retirement in 3 months!!!

OhamIreally · 15/11/2024 22:28

Suggestion upthread was to put in for unpaid parental leave. Take six weeks off for a reset then back to it.

My ex left me out of the blue when DD was 5. My career has meant that we have continued to have a nice life, my pension pot is growing nicely although it was very hard work in the early years.

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 16:01

andthat · 15/11/2024 14:44

Two part timers covering a full time job are more expensive. Simple as that really.

Employers don’t want the extra cost.

Edited

I get that, but then am not sure why they would scratch their heads all perplexed when people leave the industry !

OP posts:
andthat · 15/11/2024 14:44

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 07:17

I work during the school hols, unless I use my annual leave, unpaid leave etc.

But I'm surprised there are not more 9-3ish paid jobs.

In my industry there was a huge push to get women back into the profession (average age of leaving 38 vs average age men leaving 62). To me, quite a lot of that problem could be solved by being willing to let people go part time...
This may not actually be an issue in other industries though, haven't done any research on it.

Two part timers covering a full time job are more expensive. Simple as that really.

Employers don’t want the extra cost.

Flumoxed · 15/11/2024 14:41

I think what you need is a month off to recover from the daily burnout of life. I feel it too. What you are describing (reading, relaxing, doing yoga) isn't the same as being a SAHM. It sounds like you just need some time to yourself.

As an aside, is there any way to juggle your hours around so that you could have a longer lunch break to relax and be creative and then make up the hours in the evening instead? X

Paganpentacle · 15/11/2024 14:40

Think of your future.
This will affect your income, your pension etc.
Could you support yourself??
I cannot fathom why women are still giving away financial independence

potatocakesinprogress · 15/11/2024 14:34

Not sure what's romantic about spending more time cleaning your house and cooking while being tight on money. Sounds hellish to me.

Why on earth are you doing so much housework - 2 people both doing it evenings and weekends, you have a cleaner 2 hours a week, and you aren't even including laundry in that? Do you live in Downton Abbey or something?

Swimming or yoga could be an evening class.

WanOvaryKenobi · 15/11/2024 14:32

I'm not quite sure how you are struggling to manage with a school-hours job that is based at home while your children are at school. Both parents working 5 days a week, 9-5, and hybrid is the majority of working parents I know (and that is considered a pretty good deal).

recipientofraspberries · 15/11/2024 14:29

Vissi · 14/11/2024 22:59

I think you have a deeply romantic view of it, as you say yourself. Reframe it as becoming economically inactive, putting extra stress on your family’s finances, and stepping out of your career.

I understand the point you're making, but I really take issue with the idea that people who don't work a paid job are "economically inactive". They still make purchases, and the work they do in their community and/or household DOES contribute to the economy. We've got a very narrow limited view of what it means to be economically contributing, and we seem to think it means "working for a wage" and that's it. It's simply not that black and white. It also demonises people who don't work as simply being drains and takers.

FlippityFloppityFlump · 15/11/2024 14:28

If you can afford to give up work at a stretch then why not oursource a bit more of the household stuff. Won't cost much compared to losing your income

Pay a launderette to do wash and dry each week. A few loads cost us £30 the other week when our washing machine broke.

Pay a cleaner to come in another 2 hours

CheekySwan · 15/11/2024 14:19

I would love it - although my kids are all grown up, youngest is 15. But maybe I just want to retire early lol

I love having a day off, doing the housework, going and getting bits to make a proper meal, having a shower before everyone else gets in, spending a few more hours with DM and DD who are getting older now and probably could use some help from me

BeanBeliever · 15/11/2024 14:10

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 13:39

It's the morning that's the pinch point. I like to get set up for my day (put the laundry out, cook breakfast, eat breakfast, clear up after breakfast, chop some veggies in prep for dinner, etc), pack their snacks and water bottles.... - and they like connection, e.g. a 10 min play/reading to them while they eat... particularly the one with SEN who is v anxious about school.

Part of me felt like if I wasn't working I'd be able to leave that all, give them attention, and do it when I get home from drop off.

^ if this is the issue I would actually get to a couple of hours before the kids & do it then

Sounds mean but I find the morning hours really productive - and I’d rather get up at eg 5.30/6am and kids at 7am than lose my financial independence, pension etc

Friends who are SAHMs haven’t found it easy to get back to work /are in much lower paid jobs in the end: your job sounds perfect

Otherwise I’d be trying every time saver in the book to get through a pinch point of a year or 2:

  • tumble dry if you have to
  • easy meals and less variety
  • drop your cleaning standards

Just simplify & outsource what you can

Otherwise you give up your independence to facilitate the rest of the family (you are already doing that to a good extent working PT). No job & you become more vulnerable

WorkCleanRepeat · 15/11/2024 14:08

I work Monday- Friday school (ish) hours too. On paper it's perfect but it's actually hands down the worst part time working pattern I've ever done.

Ive started finishing at lunch time most Fridays and buying myself a couple of hours before I collect the children. It seems to be working.

Letitgoe · 15/11/2024 14:04

I think you use your time less wisely the more you have. So on a Monday you could clean the bathroom but you could also clean it on Tuesday. When you only have one day to do it you crack on. This is what I found when I was on maternity leave and living the SAHM life.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 15/11/2024 14:03

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 14:02

How would the heated airer help? Isn't the time taken hanging up, taking down and putting away still the same?

It's indoors, so you're less at the mercy of the weather, and significantly faster to dry.

ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 14:02

TheWayTheLightFalls · 15/11/2024 14:00

I'm not sure you're after this sort of advice but fwiw -

  • a one pan or similar meal 2x per week
  • a heated airer, esp with that much washing

... would save you at least 2h a week.

I actually wouldn't rate a robot vacuum. We have an all-singing ££££ iRobot and it sits in its corner sulking most of the time.

How would the heated airer help? Isn't the time taken hanging up, taking down and putting away still the same?

OP posts:
ConfusedMummy12 · 15/11/2024 14:01

TheWayTheLightFalls · 15/11/2024 14:00

I'm not sure you're after this sort of advice but fwiw -

  • a one pan or similar meal 2x per week
  • a heated airer, esp with that much washing

... would save you at least 2h a week.

I actually wouldn't rate a robot vacuum. We have an all-singing ££££ iRobot and it sits in its corner sulking most of the time.

That definitely helps, thank you! I think I just need to streamline things a lot

OP posts: