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Morrisons breast screening

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AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 20:05

Is is unreasonable of me to feel so offended by the idea of breast screening in Morrisons car park?

I'm 52 and just received an appointment that I wasn't consulted about. I just hate the idea of it. This is my local Morrisons, where I shop, where I frequently run into my awful ex-boyfriend, my estranged mother, the work colleague who sexually harrassed me 10 years ago, friends, neighbours, my postie etc, etc. And there I am, waiting beside the enormous van, emblazoned with bright breast screening decals, clearly about to strip off and have my breasts squished and examined. It all seems so undignified and makes me feel vulnerable and powerless.

Obviously, as a mum I've had to have all my bits on display and poked about with, and again I do think we are generally treated like objects or at least like we are supposed to be mature and sensible and absolutely fine with any sort of indignity that is imposed on us in the name of good sense. But at least that was in a hospital.

Yes, I am a grown woman and absolutely can put on my big girl pants and just do it for my own good. But I really feel quite oppositional to doing that. I feel like women are expected to just be ok about decisions others make about our bodies and that our dignity and privacy isn't important. It seems so disprespectful to us. I can't imagine men being invited to a prostate exam in a van in a supermarket carpark. I feel that, out of principal I don't want to do it, because the more women say 'that's ok, I can put up with a little indignity' the more other women feel pressured into a situation they really aren't happy about. Already, I feel that if I refuse this and ask for a more private screening, I would be seen as being difficult, silly even, and asking for special treatment. And I don't want special treatment, I want all women to be treated with due respect and consideration when accessing intimate medical care.

To be fair, I am a very private and anxious person, and I do have a problematic sexual history. So, I guess I may be influenced by this. Certainly, I am quite surprised there doesn't seem to be any women complaining about it. And I wonder, is it because most of us don't give a hoot, or are there many, many women just quietly missing out on screening services rather than make a fuss.

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Growlybear83 · 14/11/2024 23:02

I really don't understand why this is an issue or why being screened in a mobile screening unit in a supermarket car park is undignified!

I would probably have been dead long ago if it hadn't been for the mobile screening unit in my Sainsburys car park, where two tumours were found in one of my breasts - they were both very deep and the cancer would have spread long before I could have felt anything by self examination. I was, and still am, very thankful to have free screening available in a convenient location that I visit frequently, and where I can park easily. The screening unit is completely private, staffed by lovely women, is always warm, and is run very efficiently. I really couldn't care less who might see me going in or out of the breast screening van - surely every adult knows that women have breasts and that they are called for screening for breast cancer once they get to a certain age?

HarrisObviously · 14/11/2024 23:00

@AnotherWeasel
Unfortunately men don't get invited to a prostate examination. There is no screening programme for them because at the moment there is only a PSA blood test which they have to request from their GP. It is very unreliable and not all GPs will agree even though men over 50 can request it.
My brother requested one and his GP refused because he doesn't ' believe' in it.
My husband was diagnosed as stage 4 even though he had yearly PSA tests.
More men die of prostate cancer than women do of breast cancer. 1 in 8 men get diagnosed with prostate cancer.
Stop moaning and be grateful that women have screening for breast and cervical cancer. I'm glad I can go for both checks.

Spybot · 14/11/2024 22:59

Sablefox, it is nowhere near what Americans pay. I pay over 500 a month insurance and all the fees for mammograms and any other check up, with each appointment as needed. My point is OP will not have to pay any extra and she should avail herself of this service. Maybe it is not technically free as you paid for it with NI, but it is not more money out of pocket?

Pickandmixmood · 14/11/2024 22:58

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:57

I do have other things too.

Maybe you are deflecting your frustration onto this non-isssue to avoid thinking about the bigger worries in your life?

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:57

Pickandmixmood · 14/11/2024 22:55

Have you really got nothing more important to worry about OP?

I do have other things too.

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Pickandmixmood · 14/11/2024 22:55

Have you really got nothing more important to worry about OP?

SableOrangeFox · 14/11/2024 22:53

Spybot · 14/11/2024 22:51

If I tell you that I am in the United States and that I am looking at paying in excess of a thousand dollars for a six month check up mammogram ( and I have decent insurance) will it make you more likely to take advantage of this free resource? Please take advantage of it! Any indignity will be quickly over and it will teach you how to examine your breasts going forward.

It’s not free, most of us pay hundreds of pounds a month in National Insurance, which is actually a compulsory tax for working people.
The NHS isn’t free at all, anyone who is working pays a lot of money for it.

Inastatus · 14/11/2024 22:53

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:45

I really wouldn't mind a van in a hospital carpark. Especially if it wasn't emblazoned with 'breast screening'.

@AnotherWeasel - you really need to get over this.

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:52

SummerFeverVenice · 14/11/2024 22:45

I was just like you until after my breast cancer was diagnosed. The costs of treating just this will likely exceed what I’ve paid in compared to the costs of it under a private healthcare system like they have in the States.

I had my babies at home with a private midwife. If you had babies in hospital, you probably have only paid in slightly more than you have cost…

I have done the NHS services own calculator and I am 25,000 in credit at the moment! I agree, that could change. But it is still not correct to call it free. We all pay for it.

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SableOrangeFox · 14/11/2024 22:51

If it upsets you, it upsets you.

This is your reality, not that it helps, but I wouldn’t like it either.

See if there is anywhere else you can go on a different date, just give them a phone call, I’m sure there will be other people who’ve asked to change appointments and venues.

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Spybot · 14/11/2024 22:51

If I tell you that I am in the United States and that I am looking at paying in excess of a thousand dollars for a six month check up mammogram ( and I have decent insurance) will it make you more likely to take advantage of this free resource? Please take advantage of it! Any indignity will be quickly over and it will teach you how to examine your breasts going forward.

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:50

SummerFeverVenice · 14/11/2024 22:46

Then how would you find the right van if it isn’t labelled?

That is a good point in Morrisons carpark. At a hospital it is not needed as you have a designated waiting area and staff lead you to the van.

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PickAChew · 14/11/2024 22:46

Most of those rural hospitals were.closed when you were in primary school, @AnotherWeasel

SummerFeverVenice · 14/11/2024 22:46

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:45

I really wouldn't mind a van in a hospital carpark. Especially if it wasn't emblazoned with 'breast screening'.

Then how would you find the right van if it isn’t labelled?

SummerFeverVenice · 14/11/2024 22:45

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:32

Except its not actually free, is it? I've paid tens of thousand of pounds into the NHS in my lifetime and, fortunately, used very little. I appreciate the service is also available to anyone who hasn't been able to pay in so much, and that I would certainly get more than my monies worth if I got a serious illness or injury. But, to date I have paid far, far more than I've used and that cannot be described as free.

I was just like you until after my breast cancer was diagnosed. The costs of treating just this will likely exceed what I’ve paid in compared to the costs of it under a private healthcare system like they have in the States.

I had my babies at home with a private midwife. If you had babies in hospital, you probably have only paid in slightly more than you have cost…

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:45

PickAChew · 14/11/2024 22:40

It's not like you have to undress outdoors. Our local breast screening unit happens to be at the hospital but is still a mobile unit in the car park. They don't let men in.even in the waiting area.

I really wouldn't mind a van in a hospital carpark. Especially if it wasn't emblazoned with 'breast screening'.

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SummerFeverVenice · 14/11/2024 22:42

It seems strange to be offended by a mobile mammogram unit that goes to where it is needed instead of forcing women to spend extra money and time going all the way to a large hospital.

I had breast surgery for breast cancer last week. It was all started off by being invited to the routine screen at a mobile unit in a car park. I still had to walk 3 miles each way to get to it. Very glad I made the journey.

I feel having these mobile units that can come close to home is more respectful than requiring I journey so far to a big hospital. We have a local hospital but it doesn’t have any cancer treatment or screening in it.

Your sense of “respect” seems to require it be hidden away and kept taboo.

PickAChew · 14/11/2024 22:40

It's not like you have to undress outdoors. Our local breast screening unit happens to be at the hospital but is still a mobile unit in the car park. They don't let men in.even in the waiting area.

ObliviousCoalmine · 14/11/2024 22:37

You're not being unreasonable because this is how you feel, based on your experiences.

It's your body and you should feel comfortable in the choices you are making about who touches it and when/where.

There's a very unpleasant "put up with it the NHS is doing you a favour" approach to a lot of healthcare, particularly women's, and it's not progressive at all.

AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:35

suki1964 · 14/11/2024 21:13

As someone living very rural , Im grateful for the mobile units , and whilst we dont have Morrisons here, we do have mobile units parked in the Spar, Tesco, Sainsbury's and Heath centre

Without the mobile units, for whatever they are out for, be it breast screening, blood donation, over 50's health checks, they ensure that we get these checks done, without having a hundred mile round trip to the city

TBH OP, you sound very precious

It is a shame all our rural hospitals have gone.

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AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 22:32

Obbydoo · 14/11/2024 22:12

Talking from the point of view of someone who currently has suspected breast cancer, that trip to the Morrison's car park could literally save your life. Stop whining and be grateful you live in a country with free access to such sophisticated technology.

As the youngsters would say, check your privilege!

Except its not actually free, is it? I've paid tens of thousand of pounds into the NHS in my lifetime and, fortunately, used very little. I appreciate the service is also available to anyone who hasn't been able to pay in so much, and that I would certainly get more than my monies worth if I got a serious illness or injury. But, to date I have paid far, far more than I've used and that cannot be described as free.

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BellaBlythe · 14/11/2024 22:29

DH had an MRI scan in a van in a carpark. Better than going to the local hospital which is always busy and crowded and noisy.

GrannyGoggles · 14/11/2024 22:18

Smears and mammograms are no fun

Cervical and breast cancer are less fun

Pickandmixmood · 14/11/2024 22:18

I could understand you might be embarrassed being seen by friends/family if it was an STI clinic but not a breast screening one.

Obbydoo · 14/11/2024 22:12

Talking from the point of view of someone who currently has suspected breast cancer, that trip to the Morrison's car park could literally save your life. Stop whining and be grateful you live in a country with free access to such sophisticated technology.

As the youngsters would say, check your privilege!

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