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Morrisons breast screening

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AnotherWeasel · 14/11/2024 20:05

Is is unreasonable of me to feel so offended by the idea of breast screening in Morrisons car park?

I'm 52 and just received an appointment that I wasn't consulted about. I just hate the idea of it. This is my local Morrisons, where I shop, where I frequently run into my awful ex-boyfriend, my estranged mother, the work colleague who sexually harrassed me 10 years ago, friends, neighbours, my postie etc, etc. And there I am, waiting beside the enormous van, emblazoned with bright breast screening decals, clearly about to strip off and have my breasts squished and examined. It all seems so undignified and makes me feel vulnerable and powerless.

Obviously, as a mum I've had to have all my bits on display and poked about with, and again I do think we are generally treated like objects or at least like we are supposed to be mature and sensible and absolutely fine with any sort of indignity that is imposed on us in the name of good sense. But at least that was in a hospital.

Yes, I am a grown woman and absolutely can put on my big girl pants and just do it for my own good. But I really feel quite oppositional to doing that. I feel like women are expected to just be ok about decisions others make about our bodies and that our dignity and privacy isn't important. It seems so disprespectful to us. I can't imagine men being invited to a prostate exam in a van in a supermarket carpark. I feel that, out of principal I don't want to do it, because the more women say 'that's ok, I can put up with a little indignity' the more other women feel pressured into a situation they really aren't happy about. Already, I feel that if I refuse this and ask for a more private screening, I would be seen as being difficult, silly even, and asking for special treatment. And I don't want special treatment, I want all women to be treated with due respect and consideration when accessing intimate medical care.

To be fair, I am a very private and anxious person, and I do have a problematic sexual history. So, I guess I may be influenced by this. Certainly, I am quite surprised there doesn't seem to be any women complaining about it. And I wonder, is it because most of us don't give a hoot, or are there many, many women just quietly missing out on screening services rather than make a fuss.

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Needmorelego · 15/11/2024 16:28

@PassingStranger because for many women it wouldn't occur to them to book a screening test. This method means everyone entitled to the test gets one.

PassingStranger · 15/11/2024 16:27

Hotafternoon · 15/11/2024 08:15

One of my friends doesn't drive, if she had to go to the main hospital for screening, it would mean two buses, a ferry crossing and then faffing around at the hospital to get to wherever the screening is, then waiting around for the bus to repeat the journey back home.

For people like her, it is a huge bonus to get the appointment and either walk to the supermarket/health centre for it or just one bus will get her there.

I've never, ever heard any woman complaining about attending the mobile units being in supermarket car parks (or any car parks for that matter), we all just get on with having the scans done and crossing our fingers that we don't get a recall because they have found something sinister.

To be fair though, they admit they can recall you and it never would have turned into cancer.
They list the pros and cons in the booklet they send out.
Was reading alot more younger women get breast cancer now and it's very aggressive. It's not just an Over 50s thing

PassingStranger · 15/11/2024 16:23

Agree, it's odd that they send out appointments for people who haven't asked for one.

Fordian · 15/11/2024 15:47

JolieFilleCommentCaVa · 14/11/2024 20:30

I work for the NHS. On a programme where we have a mobile unit for CT scan lung screening. It can pick up cancers before symptoms arise.

We frequently use supermarket and leisure centre car parks for the logistics. They’re big, flat spaces that are easy to accommodate the trucks.

They’re easy access for the public. They’re ideal for volumes of patients.

It takes the strain off hospitals.

If you don’t want to use one, then you don’t have to.

You could have called your local hospital/Trust and explained your anxieties. But no, you complained on social media which really doesn’t solve anything.

Sorry for a quick, possible derail, but how long do you get given for each CT appointment?

We don't have these yet where I am; I think it would be an ideal 'last couple of years' radiography job!

As you were!

8Daphne · 15/11/2024 12:12

My dad went for a 'well-man' check up (including prostate check) and aortic aneurysm screening in the back of a lorry parked in a supermarket carpark. It was local, great parking, and the consultation rooms as private as in a hospital.

I fail to see the issue here.

saraclara · 15/11/2024 11:39

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 15/11/2024 10:04

I think those who are very much against the idea of mobile clinics are imagining they're nothing more than a portakabin or caravan. They're fully-equipped, warm, light and comfortable, just like stepping into a clinic in a permanent building. Have a google for images and videos of what they're like, you'll probably be surprised at how it is in reality.

Here's a video. I honestly don't understand why anyone would think that the environment is disrespectful. To be honest it's smarter and more comfortable than my hospital's outpatients waiting room. And more private in that I've always had the waiting area in the van to myself, instead of sharing it with 30 other people!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1G3hK9PX7n/

Tulip32 · 15/11/2024 11:25

They had this on Asda car park recently - far side away from the store. I thought it was a brilliant idea - ample parking and easily accessible by bus. My last breast screening was at hospital - parking there is a nightmare and bus no longer runs on direct route from where I live so now would have to get a bus into town and another to the hospital. So a 10/15 minute appointment would take all afternoon.

Needmorelego · 15/11/2024 10:46

@fiftiesmum yes in many hospital certain departments/facilities are essentially these mobile buildings parked on the hospital grounds.
It doesn't matter where they are parked - it's exactly the same facilities.

MsRinky · 15/11/2024 10:13

I hate hospitals, and as a rule am keen to avoid places full of sick and distressed people. Had my first mammogram in a mobile unit behind a big Tesco last week and it was great - accessible, free parking, lovely staff and I justified going and spending £70 in Homesense next door afterwards as my reward to myself for being a responsible adult. Don't see what's so bad about bringing healthcare to where people are.

fiftiesmum · 15/11/2024 10:07

I wish my appointment was in Morrisons car park as I could just about walk there.
My last appointment I did ask if there somewhere more more local (ie the local council car park where I had been before). The woman told me they no longer had the van so had to go to the hospital.
Turned up and was directed to the rear of the hospital - to the van.
Also annoying about the appointment system - ours has the attitude of this is your appointment take it or don't bother. We may be over 50 but most of us still have work commitments - would be different if it was a hospital appointment for an illness but even those can be changed

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 15/11/2024 10:04

I think those who are very much against the idea of mobile clinics are imagining they're nothing more than a portakabin or caravan. They're fully-equipped, warm, light and comfortable, just like stepping into a clinic in a permanent building. Have a google for images and videos of what they're like, you'll probably be surprised at how it is in reality.

Bitchillywillytoday · 15/11/2024 09:59

I was at a mobile unit 2 days ago and am thankful for the chance to get a screening done, but also have a choice of not to go. This was in a hospital car park. All very professional staff and clean and warm inside.

Even when some idiot woman sent her husband in, just as I was coming out of the room (with a shirt on) to say his wife is just parking up he got a polite short shift to leave the van as they called it.

You can request to have it done elsewhere, but that could be less convenient.

RampantIvy · 15/11/2024 09:59

Snazzysausage · 15/11/2024 09:40

I had mine in a local Tesco car park,much more convenient to me than a 22 mile trip to the nearest hospital that scans. It never occurred to me to think it was anything more than convenience. On a tangent if there is anyone reading this and debating whether to bother going for their scan or not, please go. They found a lump in my breast that is so deep it can't be felt on a breast check,even by the consultant,and was only picked up on the scan.

This happened to my friend as well. After a lumpectomy and removal of some lymph nodes, no further treatment was required.

Pyjamatimenow · 15/11/2024 09:58

Some people live far from hospitals, some people are afraid of hospitals and prefer this type of set up. The more accessible something is the more likely people will be to actually do it.

Needmorelego · 15/11/2024 09:54

If Morrisons sold off part of the carpark and a brick building was built in the space and it was named "Morrison Road Health Clinic" would that be any better?
Although people might still see you going there 🤔

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 15/11/2024 09:47

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 09:09

That's great if privacy and dignity are not important to you but other women still are worthy of them.

There is nothing public or undignified in getting a mammogram from a mobile unit in a car park
But, do jog on focussing more on appearance than health.
Bear in mind tho', no corpse looks good; I've seen many

Snazzysausage · 15/11/2024 09:40

I had mine in a local Tesco car park,much more convenient to me than a 22 mile trip to the nearest hospital that scans. It never occurred to me to think it was anything more than convenience. On a tangent if there is anyone reading this and debating whether to bother going for their scan or not, please go. They found a lump in my breast that is so deep it can't be felt on a breast check,even by the consultant,and was only picked up on the scan.

Mosaic123 · 15/11/2024 09:24

I have had them in a local communal hall's car park.

I'm grateful I don't have to go to a hospital - park there (difficult) and catch coughs and colds and potentially other diseases from the many hundreds of people walking about there.

This cuts the risk surely?

Beekeepingmum · 15/11/2024 09:19

Personally I think making access to screening as easy as possible it a good thing. I don't think having a mammogram should be any sort of taboo. It's not like you have to whip your top off i the car park.

RampantIvy · 15/11/2024 09:18

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 09:09

That's great if privacy and dignity are not important to you but other women still are worthy of them.

Mobile units are not provided as a spectator sport.

You get as much privacy and dignity in a mobile unit as you do in a hospital.

As someone else said, if you want an empty waiting room go private.

I agree with you @saraclara

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/11/2024 09:14

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 09:09

That's great if privacy and dignity are not important to you but other women still are worthy of them.

But they get privacy and dignity in the mobile units. No one can see them once they're inside and they are just as likely to be seen outside by someone they know at the hospital.

Summerhillsquare · 15/11/2024 09:09

Mercurial123 · 15/11/2024 05:20

That's ridiculous. If you want "nice" go private. I'd rather rather focus on my health.

That's great if privacy and dignity are not important to you but other women still are worthy of them.

MinnieCauldwell · 15/11/2024 08:47

I have 2 appointments coming up in car parks, one in Asda for lung scan and another for MRI on my brain, think its bloody brilliant that I don't have to go to the main hospital. Both on a Saturday too.p, can then mooch about the shops.
Does not phase me in the slightest, probably because i have had to go through so many medjcal procedures alread, including mastectomy so tge more women that can have theses scans the better.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/11/2024 08:46

really do think if men had to have this they wouldn't do it in a car park.

I disagree. I think if routine prostate screening became a thing I think men would jump at the chance of getting it done in a convenient space like a car park.

NB they don't do the screening IN the car park ots in private and if they built a permanent clinic for this kind of thing right next door to Morrisons would this also be undignified?

Bjorkdidit · 15/11/2024 08:43

saraclara · 15/11/2024 08:30

In what way aren't they ideal? I fundamentally disagree and say that they are ideal. They're massively more accessible for most people, than a hospital. They're on most people's doorstep, offer free parking, and they're incredibly organised and time efficient.

Having a mammogram at my local hospital would entail 1 hour 20 minutes return journey, goodness knows how long cruising the car park looking for a space, a £6 parking charge, and almost certainly sitting in a waiting room for ages, waiting for my slot.

My mammograms have been in a truck at the leisure centre about three minutes drive away (or a walk, so much more accessible for those who don't drive) where I've parked for free and been in and out in ten minutes.

It's also much easier for those who work, as they can get an appointment at a wider variety of times, and call in before they set off to work, or when they get home. No separate journey required in (often) the opposite direction from work.

There's nothing about the environment in inside the truck that's sub optimal. We should all be glad that in making the test more accessible for everyone, many more lives are saved.

This.

When I had my last mammogram, I walked to the local Asda and was in and out in 10 minutes and the radiographer was lovely.

Compared with the couple of other appointments I've needed recently where I've had to investigate parking options at a hospital 10 miles away that I'm not familiar with, drive round for ages looking for a space, pay, find the right section of a badly signposted massive teaching hospital, wait in line at a clinic where they tell 6 people to all turn up at the same time and then see them randomly without any clue when your turn will be, worry that the parking is about to run out because I only paid for 2 hours, have an intimate examination in front of a group of students (fine, everyone needs to learn) and then drive home in rush hour traffic.

I know which I prefer and the van in the Asda car park wasn't in any way 'undignified' or 'some kind of second class service because it's only women and we don't count'.

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