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A CF at a dinner party?

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SnowPenguin · 14/11/2024 13:30

My sister told me this story and I think it's top CF-ery. She isn't sure, but then again she's a much nicer person than me. What do you think?

Last night my sister went out to dinner with some ex work friends. This includes a woman, let's call her Sue, who's mid fifties. Sue lives about a 20 minute walk from the restaurant. My sister lives along Sue's route, about half way (so a ten minute walk from the restaurant). Everyone else lives in the other direction.

Sue asked my sister if she wanted to share a taxi there and back and my sister said was planning to walk. Sue said she wouldn't feel safe walking (to me this is ridiculous as you couldn't think of a less scary small town) and that she wouldn't be able to come as her husband couldn't take her and she didn't drive at night and taxis are expensive. In the end, my sister (total sweetheart) said she'd drive and give Sue a lift home. Sue said great, and asked for a lift TO the restaurant too. My sister told me she didn't really mind all this as was still happy to go out even if she couldn't have a glass of wine.

At the restaurant people ordered drinks from the bar and paid themselves (except my sister), then during dinner everyone ordered another drink to the table eg one person got a glass of wine, another person a beer etc. My sister doesn't bother much with soft drinks so had the table tap water.
The final bill had these extra drinks on as well as the food, usual discussion about how to manage the bill and SUE pipes up to say "let's just split it evenly". Which they did.

Is Sue a major CF?
Were all the people there CFs?
Or is it ok, which my sister thinks, because she could have said something at the time and didn't, and maybe next time someone else won't be drinking and she will?
Everyone must have known sister wasn't drinking, but no-one else knew about the arrangement with Sue.

AIBU?
YABU - not very cheeky
YANBU - cheeky, very cheeky

OP posts:
teatoast8 · 14/11/2024 14:29

Yes she's a CF

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 14/11/2024 14:28

Why did your sister drive. She had to go out of her way to collect and drop off sue as well.
I don’t think splitting costs is that bad in theory but the issue was that your sister drove just to save someone else money and missed out herself as a result.

NoisyDenimShaker · 14/11/2024 14:27

The bill-splitting and the travel arrangements are separate issues. Sue was definitely being a CF when she tried to make her travel arrangements your sister's problem, which unfortunately worked. Your sister was planning to walk, but Sue made out that there was no earthly way that she could ever get there - can't walk, can't get a taxi, husband can't take her, doesn't drive at night. It beggars belief!

I wish your sis had reaffirmed that she was walking, and said that Sue would be welcome to show up at her door, and they walk that part of the way there and back together. And if Sue's husband couldn't get her from the midway point or Sue didn't want to spring for a taxi for half the journey, then 🤷‍♀️When Sue tried to make out that nothing short of aliens descending from the sky in their spaceship and offering her a lift would get her there, it's a pity your sis didn't have some handy phrases at the ready, like "Hmm, that's a conundrum, isn't it" or "That does sound difficult," instead of trying to come up with a solution to Sue's fake problem.

I bet Sue knew that your sis would offer to drive her. Massive CF.

LeoOakley · 14/11/2024 14:26

I personally don't think it's noteworthy CF territory. I couldn't get worked up about the one drink per person part - especially if no history of cheeky fuckery or piss taking over bill splitting. Your dsis chose to drive, and therefore agreed to pick up Sue.

I personally wouldn't have. Your sister's choice was to do so therefore, she learnt that Sue is a bit of a chancer. Lesson learnt and no more lifts for Sue.

MayaPinion · 14/11/2024 14:24

Your sister is a complete sap. Is Sue her boss or something? Your sister changed her whole evening (walk to the restaurant, have a few drinks with colleagues, walk home - to drive to the restaurant picking up Sue on the way, not drinking but having to pay for it anyway, drive home dropping Sue, who was able to have a few drinks thanks to your sister, on the way). Yes, Sue is a CF, but why on earth did your sister bend over so far for her? Has she always been such a chronic people pleaser?

SnowPenguin · 14/11/2024 14:24

Just to clarify, sister didn’t mind splitting the bill, so She didn’t fail to stand up for herself. She isn’t a wet lettuce.

I agree it’s an easy option to spit the bill, and not the end of the world if some people have an alcoholic drink and some don’t.

But what I find cheeky is that it was Sue who suggested an even split, after sister had changed her plans to help Sue out and therefore couldn’t drink! 😂

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YellowAsteroid · 14/11/2024 14:23

Your sister needed to say something along the lines of - let's split the food, and you lot can pay for your drinks.

I'm assuming the restaurant didn't charge for water? If there was bottled water then your sister needed to pay for that.

But Sue sounds hard work overall, and your sister is nice!

Conniebygaslight · 14/11/2024 14:20

SnowPenguin · 14/11/2024 14:03

Re sis needing a back bone - it was me who thought Sue a CF not sister. I just thought I’d share as I enjoy a CF thread on mumsnet 🤣🤣

Ooh Op I wonder if your sister is the less confrontational one because you've always had the loudest voice?
You've written rather a long post to try to prove you're right when it's your sister's business and up to her how she reacts.
She's entitled to be different to you....stop jumping all over her stuff.

Flumoxed · 14/11/2024 14:18

If everyone had a starter, main, pudding and drink, then easier to split it equally. If some people didn't have starter, pudding or drinks, everyone should pay for themselves.
If this is a group your sister regularly easts out with, she is right and it will all work out over time. If they only go out once a year, it won't.

Either way, Sue should've bought (or at least offered to buy) your sister a drink or pay for her pudding or something to offset the lifts.

OriginalUsername2 · 14/11/2024 14:18

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 14/11/2024 13:40

Your sister paid the Wet Lettuce Tax. It's a voluntary tax so she can't blame anyone else.

That’s brilliant! Not heard that before.

I wouldn’t be bothered, it’s so much easier to split the bill evenly then to have to fuck around because of my one non-drink.

LindtCurves · 14/11/2024 14:16

These are really minor things. I really wouldn’t mind or think about it too much if I decided to do someone a favour and also ended up paying a bit more for dinner.

Splitting evenly is just a little easier than getting calculators out. I’m usually the non-drinker and tend to overpay a bit.

AuntieKraker · 14/11/2024 14:16

I’d say it’s thoughtless but not CFery.

yipyipyop · 14/11/2024 14:14

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 14/11/2024 13:40

Your sister paid the Wet Lettuce Tax. It's a voluntary tax so she can't blame anyone else.

Brilliant!

WallaceinAnderland · 14/11/2024 14:14

I don't think Sue is a CF because she just asked. Your sister could have said no to both.

Delatron · 14/11/2024 14:12

I think unless everyone had the same price starter, same amount or bread, same price main course - you can’t speak up about people having one alcoholic drink versus water.

If your Sis did speak up then she may have been worried someone else would say ‘ok well I didn’t have a starter’ or ‘Sue had the steak which was £5 more than my pasta’. You either agree to all pay separately if you think there will be a big discrepancy or you all split.

The lift part was CFery but your sister should have just shared the taxi, had a few drinks and then there would have been no issues.

LadyKenya · 14/11/2024 14:10

pinkyredrose · 14/11/2024 13:38

Your sister needs to learn to stand up for herself.

This! Whether Sue is a cheeky so, and so does not change that fact.

burnoutbabe · 14/11/2024 14:09

Why didn't sister order a mock tail or fancy soft drink to be equal cost to the others?

Makes things much more simple.

PrincessofWells · 14/11/2024 14:09

We split by the amount of people not what they've had, any other way is messy and tight.

UrsulasHerbBag · 14/11/2024 14:07

i am a complete pushover and even I would have said “bugger that”. The extra drinks split would have added at least a tenner (ish) to the bill. Why didn’t the others say no? Or were they happy to take the p too?

mrsm43s · 14/11/2024 14:06

If it was only one drink as the OP suggests, then I don't think the bill splitting is an issue.

I think Sue should have offered something to your DS for driving - either to buy her a drink or petrol money/paying for parking or turned up with a bunch of flowers for her to say thank you.

Noshowlomo · 14/11/2024 14:06

Sue is a CF and your sister needs to find her voice

Nikitaspearlearring · 14/11/2024 14:04

The taxi thing is a separate issue, I think. Your DSis did a kind thing. But the rest is just the same old discussion about whether you split the bill or not. The consensus is usually that if everyone"s bill is roughly the same then why not split. It takes a lot of guts to stand up to this though - I've done it and been called a skinflint because I didn't want to subsidise other people's boozing.

SnowPenguin · 14/11/2024 14:03

Re sis needing a back bone - it was me who thought Sue a CF not sister. I just thought I’d share as I enjoy a CF thread on mumsnet 🤣🤣

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TeenLifeMum · 14/11/2024 14:02

I bloody love my friends. If I drive (I often do as I’m not too fussed about drinking and seem to be on call for work most times we go out), they buy my soft drinks and get the food bill and a separate drinks one which they split between the drinkers. It’s always the drinkers who suggest this.

Mipil · 14/11/2024 14:00

I don’t think the bill splitting was massive CFery. The difference between different main choices could easily be the same as the cost of a pint of beer. A pint of Coke often isn’t much less than a pint of beer. It’s a pretty standard thing to do, anyone who isn’t happy with doing it that way, should speak up. I wouldn’t expect Sue to have paid attention to whether your DS was drinking water and ordered a salad or went for the steak, multiple sides and an expensive mocktail. Not drinking doesn’t necessarily mean a smaller bill.

The CFery is emotionally blackmailing your DS into driving. Ditto not offering petrol money or buying a thank you gift.

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