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Anyone else finding travel harder the older you get?

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menopausalminnie1 · 14/11/2024 12:38

Just back from a long haul trip. Had a wonderful time, but really struggled with some aspects of the trip. For context, I'm 55, menopausal, and I ache A LOT.

We had to go from Heathrow, which is HUGE. I found the sheer amount of walking required to be quite difficult, as my back kills me, and I was lugging a heavy suitcase and a backpack. Don't get me wrong, I did manage it, but it felt exhausting.

We also struggled a bit with the self check in pods and trying to figure out where on earth to drop our bags after that. Nothing seemed to be well signposted or obvious.

On a day to day basis, I feel quite young, but on this trip I felt a bit concerned about whether we were going to manage long haul travel 10 years from now, which is a worry, as we plan to travel a lot in retirement.

Anyone else?

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 14/11/2024 19:41

cardibach · 14/11/2024 19:39

It isn’t. I’m 60 and this year I did several trips - long distance train, plane, mini bus. None of it exhausted me.

Edited

Retirement age for people my age is 67 or 68, noy 60.

Lentilweaver · 14/11/2024 19:41

taxguru · 14/11/2024 19:39

For us, it's the sheer busy-ness, crowdedness, etc., i.e. too many people, that gets us. Right from leaving home, roads are congested, the transfer bus from the car park to the terminal is full and standing, huge queues and baggage drop, huge queues in the security hall, queues for shops, drinks and food, crowded departure lounge areas, queues for boarding, queues for the toilets, when you get there, queues for immigration/passport control, congestion in the baggage reclaim, queues at the car hire desks. It's such a relief to actually get to your accommodation, as long as there isn't a queue at reception. Then queues and congestion at breakfast the next morning. Not enough sun loungers round the pool. Day out to the water park and there's a sodding queue for the plastic doughnuts (not enough of them), then you're queueing for every ride. It just goes on and on.

It's awful really. Everything is cramped and crowded, too many people, never enough staff, nothing is big enough for the number of people they're crowding in.

Never used to be so bad. We started going abroad in the 1980s and it was sheer bliss. Airports were far more pleasant places - never as many people, barely any queues, shopping, eating & drinking were a pleasure - not having to muscle and nudge your way through hoards of people. More leg room on planes meaning fewer people. Hotels had more staff, hardly ever queues, dining rooms of a sensible size in proportion to hotel size, plenty of sun beds, etc.

It's definitely a "people" problem, ie the number of passengers/holiday makers has increased massively, mostly due to population increase, but roads, airport facilities, hotels, etc., havn't grown in proportion and most have now adopted the "pile em in" mentality. It's just not pleasurable anymore. Too many people everywhere.

Also because many countries got richer in the last decade or so and can now afford to travel.

Sockss · 14/11/2024 19:40

I’m 55 and just about to go in my 8th foreign trip this year, I absolutely love travelling.

Gwenhwyfar · 14/11/2024 19:39

I've always found travel hard. It's tiring and stressful. It's harder for those of us who can't just sleep anywhere at any time or who can't sleep on our backs. As we get older having the right kind of mattress becomes important, we get tired more easily and are less flexible and not everyone has more money when they're older to get better quality transport and accommodation options.
I think what you're feeling is quite normal.

taxguru · 14/11/2024 19:39

For us, it's the sheer busy-ness, crowdedness, etc., i.e. too many people, that gets us. Right from leaving home, roads are congested, the transfer bus from the car park to the terminal is full and standing, huge queues and baggage drop, huge queues in the security hall, queues for shops, drinks and food, crowded departure lounge areas, queues for boarding, queues for the toilets, when you get there, queues for immigration/passport control, congestion in the baggage reclaim, queues at the car hire desks. It's such a relief to actually get to your accommodation, as long as there isn't a queue at reception. Then queues and congestion at breakfast the next morning. Not enough sun loungers round the pool. Day out to the water park and there's a sodding queue for the plastic doughnuts (not enough of them), then you're queueing for every ride. It just goes on and on.

It's awful really. Everything is cramped and crowded, too many people, never enough staff, nothing is big enough for the number of people they're crowding in.

Never used to be so bad. We started going abroad in the 1980s and it was sheer bliss. Airports were far more pleasant places - never as many people, barely any queues, shopping, eating & drinking were a pleasure - not having to muscle and nudge your way through hoards of people. More leg room on planes meaning fewer people. Hotels had more staff, hardly ever queues, dining rooms of a sensible size in proportion to hotel size, plenty of sun beds, etc.

It's definitely a "people" problem, ie the number of passengers/holiday makers has increased massively, mostly due to population increase, but roads, airport facilities, hotels, etc., havn't grown in proportion and most have now adopted the "pile em in" mentality. It's just not pleasurable anymore. Too many people everywhere.

cardibach · 14/11/2024 19:39

bifurCAT · 14/11/2024 12:55

The best part is many people save money in the hopes that they can travel when they retire. If only they knew it's ten times harder...

It isn’t. I’m 60 and this year I did several trips - long distance train, plane, mini bus. None of it exhausted me.

downwindofyou · 14/11/2024 19:36

OP yes menopause can bring on aches but not often to the point you seem to be suffering.

'I think it's the sheer size of some airports that I find exhausting. Heathrow is colossal. Obviously it's fine if you are young and fit, and it's fine if you get assistance, but what about all the other people, that are somewhere in between? The amount of walking was insane!'

This comment in particular has me concerned fit your overall health. Heathrow is not 'colossal' abs ffs walking is not 'insane'. If you think it is then this sounds like you do very little movement in your day to day life. Regular exercise whilst not always easy will make a difference to your menopause pain. You may have to work around certain areas when they are especially bad but at 55 you should not be finding Heathrow colossal or require insane levels of walking. Might you consider your lack of fitness is the major problem here?

JudgeJ · 14/11/2024 19:36

menopausalminnie1 · 14/11/2024 13:28

A few of my customers, who are in their 60's, have declared that they will only now go on holiday, if they can fly from our local airport, which is quite compact and you know where everything is. I really didn't get this mentality until this trip!

At one time Schiphol was referred to as London's 3rd airport for long haul!

JudgeJ · 14/11/2024 19:33

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/11/2024 18:56

How come you have that much annual leave? If you work in a school and did that in school summer holidays, you need to tell me your secret because that kind of trip without any rest during the summer holidays would just about finish me off. 😩

We did that kind of trip a few times when still at the chalkface, I recall a delayed return flight which meant that I phoned a colleague who picked me up from the railway station nearest to school travelling from the airport and I went straight into a training day! I think I spent a lot of time snoozing on the back row. The 'secret' maybe is that we were a bit younger, 50s probably.

Beautifulweeds · 14/11/2024 19:33

Yes I do, more the being cooped up, too hot, waiting around as I'm a fidget!

My Dad well into his 70s had no issue with a backpack, sleeping in airports, buses etc.

downwindofyou · 14/11/2024 19:30

Catza · 14/11/2024 12:49

Marginally, yes. However, I also make sure that I prep for it the best way I can. I always travel light - small wheelie suitcase which fits under the seat and a small clutch with documents, phone, keys and bank card. Making sure I am dropped off/picked up at the airport or booking an airport hotel if the flight is too early/late. Have all my creature comforts with me - compression socks and wooly socks, neck pillow, eye mask, ear plugs and plenty of snacks.
And if I can't work out how to operate things, I always flag the staff to do it for me. That's what they are there for.

What planes/wheelie are you using? I've never seen a wheelie bag fit under a seat 🫤

JudgeJ · 14/11/2024 19:28

BIWI · 14/11/2024 12:49

I'm 10 years older than you and I'd be very concerned if I was feeling like you are! How is your health generally? Are you overweight? Do you do much exercise on a regular basis?

Might be worth talking to your GP if you're aching so much all the time.

We were still making long haul, fairly active trips prior to my OH's death at the start of Lockdown 1, no Covid connection, and we were in our 70s. We simplified the trip a lot by flying via Schiphol from our little local airport, much less walking around and we could be from wheels down to home in less than an hour! Factoring in driving down to Heathrow or Gatwick, possibly an overnight hotel, parking costs etc it worked out far cheaper and less time, the US staff used to find it a bit odd, especially when we said that we flew over our house to Amsterdam then came back.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/11/2024 19:26

Ah, I think that's the difference maybe. I am very much looking forward to being able to travel when I'm no longer working full time and am not already knackered before I've even got to the airport.

nevergonnaguess · 14/11/2024 19:19

I hadn't travelled by plane for about a decade. Bloody hell, things have changed. What I found difficult were the sheer volume of people and the number of queues. When I went, there were queues for queues! Honestly, it was jammed packed, we actually got stuck on one side of the hall (before security) to get to the other side because there was a huge bottleneck of people queuing to get to the security queue.

I just remember thinking that if the fire alarm goes off, there's going to be pandemonium.

ExitPursuedByABare · 14/11/2024 19:06

60’s Go Go Go
70’s Slow Slow Slow
80’s No No No

I’m 65 but a bit disabled. I always book assistance at airports. I’m obsessed with luggage and constantly on the search for the best travel options.

ohtowinthelottery · 14/11/2024 19:04

@CurlyhairedAssassin It's called being retired!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/11/2024 18:58

ParsnipPuree · 14/11/2024 13:49

Dh and I are 57 and walking at the airport/checking in is no harder for us than it was in our 30's. We're about to do a long haul
trip for a month. 57 isn't old!

Same question to you - are you using all your annual leave up to do that or are you teachers?

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/11/2024 18:56

ohtowinthelottery · 14/11/2024 13:27

I'm 60 and have recently been on a 5 week interrail trip carrying all my luggage in a backpack. Never once got a taxi to accomodation, all technology for booking tickets/accomodation/reservations fully embraced. I have the odd ache and pain but I find that the more I walk the less I ache. I came back ready for the next adventure.

How come you have that much annual leave? If you work in a school and did that in school summer holidays, you need to tell me your secret because that kind of trip without any rest during the summer holidays would just about finish me off. 😩

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2024 18:52

Sunnysal · 14/11/2024 18:41

I can use a rollator to get off the ship in ports. I book a wheelchair to actually board and disembark. I can usually manage 'easy' tours. My dh shoves my backside up on to the coaches and I use a stick to stagger around.

The tour details usually tell you if there’s a lot of walking involved and whether it’s suitable for people with mobility issues.

Nothatgingerpirate · 14/11/2024 18:48

Not harder, but more bothersome.
Gives me very little, so I do it very little.

Sunnysal · 14/11/2024 18:41

CurlyhairedAssassin · 14/11/2024 18:18

Do you mind me asking how you manage getting on and off the cruise ships, and do the tours at each destination? It always look like there is actually a lot of walking on a cruise.

I can use a rollator to get off the ship in ports. I book a wheelchair to actually board and disembark. I can usually manage 'easy' tours. My dh shoves my backside up on to the coaches and I use a stick to stagger around.

Towerofsong · 14/11/2024 18:36

I'm mid 50's and I get sweaty (thyroid) and out of breath (asthma) walking up the hill from the airport car park to the departure hall dragging a suitcase in the summer but no aching, and I walk fast.

However it does take me maybe 3 days to recover from the journey and a couple of hours time difference.

I figure when I retire I will be able to take my time more and don't have to squeeze holidays into one or two weeks and rush back to work.

I do book extra leg room though as I need it and take creature comforts with me, flight socks, hand cream, noise cancelling headphones, neck pillow if it's an airline without an adjustable head rest. And I travel light, usually a medium case and small handbag, or a cabin case and a backpack

I'd check into HRT and take up yoga or pilates to keep your joints flexible.

PermanentTemporary · 14/11/2024 18:35

I was always quite good at packing light but now I'm 55 I pack as little as possible, and wear layers. If I need to I'll buy something while I'm out there or wash my stuff, but mostly I find I don't need to. I'd still check in a bag rather than haul a big carryon around the airport. I'm also much keener on going by train (obviously not long haul). If I'm flying I'll spend money on things like a parking space near departures. I feel like travelling costs a fortune anyway so if I can afford that I'll make it easier on myself.

Do you do weights training at all, or at least body circuit stuff like bridging and planking? Makes a huge difference.

Bigminnie1 · 14/11/2024 18:35

Are you generally very unfit? I am only a couple of years younger than you and I have very recently done massive long haul flights and then a very active holiday and was absolutely fine.

notimagain · 14/11/2024 18:34

And I agree, why the airports so bloody big. It feels like you are walking for absolute miles from one end to the other.

Geometry.

It’s down to the number of aircraft that need accommodating at one time (potentially close to 100 plus at some really big airports) and then the fact you need maybe a minimum 75-100 metres between the centre line of each gate - it adds up to big distances.

Best you can do from a passenger POV is subdivide into multiple terminals and then hopefully put in lots of moving walkways or similar to reduce the effort needed to move around.

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