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To feel bad for the new employee at work

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MariMiceMouse · 14/11/2024 07:43

I’m going to try keep this vague as I don’t want it to be identifying but here goes.

In my office there is a real mixed bag of privilege from Etonians to comp school in the north east, Oxbridge to ex polytechnics. In most instances it makes no difference at all.
We took on a graduate this year, she’s very privileged. Studied at a top uni, went to top private schools and international schools.
She seems to be very intelligent and has made some friends.
However there is a specific group who really don’t like her, she mentioned at drinks once that she was moving into her new flat, that to turned to where and asking to see etc. eventually it came out that it is a graduation gift and mortgage free - probably worth nearing 2 million for a 1.5 bed. Really puts into perspective the wealth we are talking about here.
She wears expensive designer clothes and accessories everyday which also irritates some people.
The conversation when she’s not around always seems to fall to how privileged she is.
There are maybe 4 people who seem to get on really well with her (ironically the youngest and furthest from that level of wealth).
Shes on my team and sits beside me, she’s actually really lovely, funny and so intelligent even about things that don’t relate to her job or degree.
It feels like a lot of the office are keen to see her fail and it’s making me feel quite bad for her.

AIBU to think it’s really poor for grown adults to be so cruel behind someone’s back just because they are from a different background.

OP posts:
TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 14/11/2024 17:19

Given that they all work in Asset and Wealth Management for HNWIs, I doubt she's in a minority being wealthy. Private banking is awash with privately educated and very well-off individuals.

Which makes this all the more weird. I think it's more likely to be that she's an easy target because she's younger (so more junior) and female, as opposed to the Eton educated older men in the office.

bows101 · 14/11/2024 17:14

Unfortunately if she's a minority of wealthy people at work, people think it gives them a pass to treat her like shit. I've seen it happen many times. It is envy and jealously and honestly, people can't help themselves. They love to hate even when it doesn't improve their lives at all.
However on the reverse, if someone not so wealthy was singled out, bullied at work people would be saying take it further, it's unfair. It should be the same regardless IMO

Marabousfy · 14/11/2024 16:17

She’s going to have to toughen up a bit it sounds like.

Antsy123 · 14/11/2024 14:46

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 13:06

what about her colleagues for pushing and questioning her despite the fact she was uncomfortable? aren't they supposed to have sufficient emotional intelligence to not push someone for personal information?

they all work in private banking - i very much doubt this is the first time they have ever encountered a colleague from a wealthy background. particularly as some of them were educated at eton, which is not cheap.

Yeah I agree they shouldn’t have done that. I hadn’t read that update when I posted my comment.

stillavid · 14/11/2024 14:24

This is all so odd bearing in mind the industry you are working in. I mean she is probably relatively poor compared to many of the clients your colleagues are dealing with on a daily basis.

All very odd.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 14/11/2024 14:22

Yes, expensive clothes are par for the course in that industry, not exactly unusual. Unless she's dripping head to toe in diamonds, it's hard to imagine what she could be wearing to stand out?

CatchAllKate · 14/11/2024 13:13

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 13:06

what about her colleagues for pushing and questioning her despite the fact she was uncomfortable? aren't they supposed to have sufficient emotional intelligence to not push someone for personal information?

they all work in private banking - i very much doubt this is the first time they have ever encountered a colleague from a wealthy background. particularly as some of them were educated at eton, which is not cheap.

Exactly, context is important and this sounds like she's being picked on.
She isn't wearing expensive clothes and discussing her flat with her colleagues at, I don't know the care home.

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 13:06

Antsy123 · 14/11/2024 12:56

I voted yabu as it sounds like she has absolutely no emotional intelligence and doesn’t read the room. If she did she would realise it’s not a great idea to let her work colleagues know she got a million pound flat as a graduation gift.

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what about her colleagues for pushing and questioning her despite the fact she was uncomfortable? aren't they supposed to have sufficient emotional intelligence to not push someone for personal information?

they all work in private banking - i very much doubt this is the first time they have ever encountered a colleague from a wealthy background. particularly as some of them were educated at eton, which is not cheap.

Antsy123 · 14/11/2024 12:56

I voted yabu as it sounds like she has absolutely no emotional intelligence and doesn’t read the room. If she did she would realise it’s not a great idea to let her work colleagues know she got a million pound flat as a graduation gift.

MattSmithsBowTie · 14/11/2024 12:43

TheCovetedDuchessRose · 14/11/2024 10:32

Why is a “comp in the North East” used as an example of the lowest standard of education in your office? Why specify in the North East?

I went to a comp in the North East and I learned very quickly at work (in the south) not to let on that I’d been given a deposit for my first house! People always assume North East = working class poor person, they’re quite surprised when I tell them that none of my family are working class and I was the ‘posh’ one at my school 🤣

wizzywig · 14/11/2024 12:41

Will those colleagues hound her to have a flat warming party so that they can bitch about her. Or bitch about her if she doesn't have a party.

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 12:39

DataPup · 14/11/2024 12:38

Seems even stranger that they'd find it all that shocking in that case

that surprised me as well. it's more common than not.

DataPup · 14/11/2024 12:38

MariMiceMouse · 14/11/2024 11:46

Asset and Wealth Management for HNWIs (Private Banking)

Seems even stranger that they'd find it all that shocking in that case

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 12:38

given the industry you work in, it's not at all unusual for people working there to come from wealthy backgrounds.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 14/11/2024 12:37

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 12:23

op's update says she was being cross questioned.

I’ve only just read that. Another time it might have good to say her dad helped and change the subject. I really wanted to suggest that she might not be used to these situations and would do well to prepare for future conversations with people who may be shocked at her financial position.

AuroraBo · 14/11/2024 12:36

Or just point out that they are jealous each time a nasty comment is made.

AuroraBo · 14/11/2024 12:34

in Your shoes I’d directly ask them to be supportive of her and stop picking faults. You're all a team and need to pull together. She is nothing but kind about them and you expect them to be the same in return.

the people criticising are just envious.

MidnightBlossom · 14/11/2024 12:23

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 14/11/2024 11:37

We don’t know exactly who asked for or offered what information on this occasion . But if she isn’t being cross questioned she has a chance to steer the conversation away from her free flat.

op's update says she was being cross questioned.

Nanny0gg · 14/11/2024 12:05

MariMiceMouse · 14/11/2024 09:25

I was at the pub when it became apparent about her flat.
She mentioned casually she couldn’t stay out late as she was moving. People then asked lots of leading questions (can we see pictures, oh that’s lovely, oh where is it, which line will you be getting to work) then one of the guys said “ah you won’t be able to afford that on your salary” and she said oh my dad is helping me which was followed by “ah so daddy pays the mortgage, or is there no mortgage” - cue uncomfortable silence until she said.
I don’t think she meant to brag, she more or less got interrogated.

So she is starting to become aware of their attitude?

DreamyDreamy · 14/11/2024 12:05

Being jealous is one thing, but negatively judging people only because they have something that you don’t is just sad to be honest.
People like this will live a bitter life, resenting others for their own situation.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 14/11/2024 12:03

ElaborateCushion · 14/11/2024 12:01

Yup - damned if you do and damned if you don't!

There will always be some people who don't like you and disapprove of your choices, regardless of who you are.

I just ignore it and only share personal info with people I trust. If other people think I'm stand-offish because I don't want to discuss my personal life with them, well that's on them! Better than giving people ammunition.

ElaborateCushion · 14/11/2024 12:01

Clarinet1 · 14/11/2024 11:56

Also, if this young woman didn’t work, what would people somewhere be saying about her?

Yup - damned if you do and damned if you don't!

ElaborateCushion · 14/11/2024 12:00

greenrollneck · 14/11/2024 07:58

Do you make it known you like her and are friendly with her? Otherwise your silence makes it look like you agree with the bully's.

Maybe ask her if she's ok?

I'm sure she's perfectly good to fight back if needed, maybe she can hear and is aware of the comments and is used to that kind of crap from adults who should know better. Most high net worth individuals are pretty tough.

This - as well as challenging them when you hear them talking behind her back. You need to stand up for her or report it up the chain to HR if you don't feel you can.

"Tracey (I mean her name's very unlikely to be Tracey, but it's the first thing that came to mind!) is a really lovely person that I like a lot. To hear you lot talk about her like this, behind her back, is just showing off your inner green eyed monsters. Just because she was born fortunate, doesn't justify your bullying. Maybe you should all take a good look in the mirror before criticising others."

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 14/11/2024 11:58

Clarinet1 · 14/11/2024 11:54

I was just brought up that it’s very rude to quiz people on their financial situation. A phrase like “That’s for me to know and you to wonder” might be useful.

That phrase is guaranteed to get people's backs up. Vague non-responses or a quick change of subject is a better idea.

"Where are you moving to?"
"A flat near [vague area]"
"Show me pictures!"
"I haven't got any on my phone, sorry. Anyway, got to rush off, loads of packing to do! See you all on Monday, have a good weekend"

Clarinet1 · 14/11/2024 11:56

Also, if this young woman didn’t work, what would people somewhere be saying about her?

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