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…to ask why you still buy fireworks

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xolotl · 13/11/2024 18:29

https://mailchi.mp/58291132e1c5/red-panda-update-from-edinburgh-zoo-5799234

From the email:

”Very sadly, she choked on her vomit on bonfire night and our vets believe this was probably a reaction to fireworks. Roxie had access to her den but the frightening noises seem to have been too much for her. We are also concerned that fireworks cause stress to other animals in the zoo.

Fireworks can cause fear and distress for pets, livestock and animals in zoos, so it is essential that the UK government tightens restrictions. We support calls from animal welfare charities to ban the sale of fireworks to the public, with only light displays being permitted at organised events.”

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VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:40

BillPurchase · 13/11/2024 19:39

A bit of a joyless approach. People like them and they're legal.

Here's about £15 quids worth of rocket.

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Where's the joy in a fucking dead panda?

BillPurchase · 13/11/2024 19:39

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:38

Yeah. They should probably get some sort of soundproofing in for next year though as it's not going to stop people. They don't care how many pandas they kill as long as they can let off a big massive explosive legally

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A bit of a joyless approach. People like them and they're legal.

Here's about £15 quids worth of rocket.

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NeonGreenHighlighter · 13/11/2024 19:39

Honestly as someone who lives in Edinburgh I ask myself the same thing every year. Why do we still have access to such things?

The news story is relevant. I don’t know what it’s like in other cities, but Edinburgh is getting worse by the year for the abuse of fireworks. This year I couldn’t attend my offices as staff would not have got home by public transport (buses were stopped from coming by) taxis refused to serve the area and our cars were at risk from the impending violence that happened that evening.
Roads were closed, fires were started next to petrol stations, fireworks were posted in peoples doors. All this rioting involved children and adults.
this, tied in with animals (the zoos and pets) are in shock , dying and suffering, all because humans are able to purchase small explosives and burn their money away.

it costs everyone. It needs to end

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:38

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:35

I just think animals are more important than an hour of pretty, sparkly colours and loud noises,

Yeah. They should probably get some sort of soundproofing in for next year though as it's not going to stop people. They don't care how many pandas they kill as long as they can let off a big massive explosive legally

QueenBitch666 · 13/11/2024 19:37

Only selfish bastards buy fireworks

Bumbleebeetree · 13/11/2024 19:36

I agree with you. I wish people would stop putting themselves and their fun before the environment and animals.

I used to love fireworks as a child but I find it difficult not to think about the impact on wildlife and other animals now. I wish they were quiet... I think it would make them a lot less frightening for animals!

Snoopdoggydog123 · 13/11/2024 19:35

Because its cheaper and because my daughter doesn't like crowds.

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:35

I just think animals are more important than an hour of pretty, sparkly colours and loud noises,

bakewellbride · 13/11/2024 19:35

Yanbu op fireworks are awful.

I'm surprised no one has pointed out that zoos and animal agriculture ('livestock') are both terrible for animals too.

The things humans do to animals are truly appalling and it breaks my heart.

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:34

BillPurchase · 13/11/2024 19:33

Stick them in a soundproof booth.

Here the animal died on bonfire night which is the main night that most organised displays take place, so its pointless asking why a minority of people buy a few whizz poppers from Asda that are as loud as a fart.

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There were private displays near me (village) not on bonfire night that sounded like depth charges going off

BillPurchase · 13/11/2024 19:33

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:30

Explain, in detail, how you'd do that?

People can't even keep their pets calm with medication, closed curtains and white noise

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Stick them in a soundproof booth.

Here the animal died on bonfire night which is the main night that most organised displays take place, so its pointless asking why a minority of people buy a few whizz poppers from Asda that are as loud as a fart.

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:32

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:31

You do know there are firework displays in the countryside too? (sadly)

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Hopefully not next to zoos though?

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:31

stayathomer · 13/11/2024 19:31

But there’s animals everywhere so why are people saying just don’t do them next to the zoo?!?!?

Because they only care about endangered pandas

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:31

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:26

I agree a city is a silly place to have a zoo

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You do know there are firework displays in the countryside too? (sadly)

stayathomer · 13/11/2024 19:31

But there’s animals everywhere so why are people saying just don’t do them next to the zoo?!?!?

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:30

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 13/11/2024 19:26

The responsibility lies with the zoos staff and veterinary experts, they needed to ensure the animals were comfortable on a well known event that causes animals distress.

Explain, in detail, how you'd do that?

People can't even keep their pets calm with medication, closed curtains and white noise

Nanny0gg · 13/11/2024 19:30

Newdaynewstarts · 13/11/2024 18:34

How long has the zoo been open?
Something will always upset someone. Whilst I agree it’s sad. Are you seriously saying we should ban fireworks as a reasonable response to this piece of sad news.

A number of horses at a sanctuary died because fireworks scared them to death

I can't bear to think of the wildlife affected

Cindersroo · 13/11/2024 19:29

I think they should only have organised public displays and think carefully about where they have them. Even that has some risks (a young boy who was a tourist visiting his older sibling lost his eye walking by the Liverpool display back in 2015) but at least it’s kept to a minimum.

I don’t think they should be for private sale though. I had some “friends” chuck them at me when I was a teen 🙄I had no idea they even had any in their possession.

StMarie4me · 13/11/2024 19:27

We don't. We go to an organised display.

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:26

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 13/11/2024 19:26

The responsibility lies with the zoos staff and veterinary experts, they needed to ensure the animals were comfortable on a well known event that causes animals distress.

I agree a city is a silly place to have a zoo

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 13/11/2024 19:26

The responsibility lies with the zoos staff and veterinary experts, they needed to ensure the animals were comfortable on a well known event that causes animals distress.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 13/11/2024 19:25

Because people are selfish knobheads. I'm amazed that the general public, who let's face it are more and more lacking in common sense, are able to buy legal explosives.

VanillaPlanifolia · 13/11/2024 19:22

Why are pandas in Edinburgh anyway

Pebbles16 · 13/11/2024 19:21

SometimesCalmPerson · 13/11/2024 18:49

This is a sad story, but there’s more than one reason why there shouldn’t be pandas in Edinburgh in the first place.

Zoos are controversial so I’m not sure they can be used as a strong argument in a debate that’s already divisive.

I concur

RamblingEclectic · 13/11/2024 19:20

I'm not sure if sparklers count, but I buy them because we like them and it's one of the few traditions from when I was kid that I've continued with mine.

I haven't bought any others for many years, but last month my 17 year old convinced me to buy to buy a pack advertised as low noise to test them...and then she forgot about them on the 5th, so they're staying to test out for new years to see if they're actually low noise. If they aren't, I doubt we'll use more than one as she's sound sensitive, that's why she wants to test them. She thinks they're very pretty, but hates the noise.

I can see bringing in sharper penalties for mis selling - most of the tragedies that have happened go back to that - or limiting the volume they can be, many people are fed up with it, a full ban though - it comes up every year, but I'm not sure it gets the support or how effective it would be.

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