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…to ask why you still buy fireworks

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xolotl · 13/11/2024 18:29

https://mailchi.mp/58291132e1c5/red-panda-update-from-edinburgh-zoo-5799234

From the email:

”Very sadly, she choked on her vomit on bonfire night and our vets believe this was probably a reaction to fireworks. Roxie had access to her den but the frightening noises seem to have been too much for her. We are also concerned that fireworks cause stress to other animals in the zoo.

Fireworks can cause fear and distress for pets, livestock and animals in zoos, so it is essential that the UK government tightens restrictions. We support calls from animal welfare charities to ban the sale of fireworks to the public, with only light displays being permitted at organised events.”

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seedsandseeds · 16/11/2024 03:40

Where do you draw the line though?

No holidays that involve planes?

No balloons?

OldPodge · 15/11/2024 20:59

Nic834 · 13/11/2024 18:42

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700013

Thanks. I’ve just signed too.

FlutePlayer · 15/11/2024 20:55

xolotl · 15/11/2024 20:25

Just got an email from MN to check back in with this thread and read all your replies. Wow! I didn’t expect it to take off like this. I guess all I have to say is:

i cannot believe how many of you do not know there is a difference between a panda and a red panda

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What difference does it make? Isn't your issue an animal may have died due to fireworks?

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xolotl · 15/11/2024 20:25

Ytcsghisn · 14/11/2024 06:45

OP, are you still at it. You’re obsessed. Get help.

Just got an email from MN to check back in with this thread and read all your replies. Wow! I didn’t expect it to take off like this. I guess all I have to say is:

i cannot believe how many of you do not know there is a difference between a panda and a red panda

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 14/11/2024 12:33

We used to buy back garden fireworks, generally not very loud or noisy.
People who think they should be confined to big displays, might reflect that these are the very occasions when a lot of massively loud bangs occur.

pinkpjamas1 · 14/11/2024 12:26

I don't and never would. Because I'm not a selfish, thoughtless arsehole.

NoisyDenimShaker · 14/11/2024 12:22

VanillaPlanifolia · 14/11/2024 06:34

Do fireworks scare ants?

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Probably!

ZeldaFighter · 14/11/2024 07:47

Mademetoxic · 13/11/2024 23:51

Selfish human behaviour once again. I fear for our future children if the parents are always this selfish. Me me me attitude.

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So fireworks are bad but owning a domesticated animal is environmentally responsible?

Why don't you research the dangers to wildlife of monthly dog and cat worming treatments? I buy fireworks and set them off on one day.

soupfiend · 14/11/2024 07:33

Playingintheshadow · 14/11/2024 00:02

That's a load of absolute nonsense. You don't know much about animals. See my post above.

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Every single one of our cats including our current one is a rescue. Our dog was a rescue, not from a rescue centre. I know a lot about animals having had a number of different species over the years. They have all responded the same. Why is that I wonder?

PenGold · 14/11/2024 07:31

VanillaPlanifolia · 14/11/2024 06:34

Do fireworks scare ants?

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No idea.

Now perhaps you could answer my question.

Thevelvelletes · 14/11/2024 07:09

Wellbeige · 13/11/2024 18:54

Oh goodness that’s so sad.

I think it’s a case of knowing better now. I would love private sales to be banned. At least with organised displays you can make plans.

I have 3 dogs. One of them shakes and gets in a state. The others aren’t bothered.

it’s heartbreaking knowing the harm they can do (also Chinese lanterns/helium balloons)

it’s only humans who wilfully destroy habitat as some kind of birth right.

Never understood the setting a naked flame(Chinese lantern) into the big blue yonder with no thought of the damage it could cause.
Fireworks are a very different animal to what they once were some were so loud it was akin to a bomb going off.i don't think the powerful ones should be available to the public.

Laalaalaand · 14/11/2024 06:57

What evidence is there that the panda is dead because of fireworks? It vomited - animals vomit all the time for all sorts of reasons.

And knowing there's was going to be fireworks, why didn't the zoo staff take steps to protect it? Sounds like they were negligent.

Fireworks will never be banned. It's about time people got used to that.

sel2223 · 14/11/2024 06:56

I'm in the camp of organised displays only, not for personal sale

Jifmicroliquid · 14/11/2024 06:49

Because stupid people are entertained by bangs and pretty colours.
It’s against the law to drop litter or fly tip, yet its perfectly acceptable to litter the land with your firework debris.

Selfish people believe that their right to ‘fun’ is more important than the emotional and physical welfare of domesticated animals and wildlife. Theres no point arguing with them either, because they are so blinkered and convinced they are right.

Organised and licensed displays are the way forward. That way, people who enjoy fireworks can still go and watch them, but it limits the total madness that bonfire night has become.

Ytcsghisn · 14/11/2024 06:45

OP, are you still at it. You’re obsessed. Get help.

Hateam · 14/11/2024 06:43

Given the rate that dogs kill children, I think we'd be better off banning dogs.

VanillaPlanifolia · 14/11/2024 06:34

PenGold · 13/11/2024 21:58

Do you eat animals and fish? Kill mosquitoes and ants?

Do you care about their fear and pain? Or just the cute pandas?

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Do fireworks scare ants?

Bumbleebeetree · 14/11/2024 05:46

BlueMoanday · 13/11/2024 20:12

Because I love them. They give me joy in a shitty, shitty world.
I don't care if a neurotic dog is scared.

So your 5 minutes of nostalgia is more important than wildlife being absolutely terrified? How depressing.

sarsaparillatree · 14/11/2024 01:37

Red Pandas come from China. The Chinese invented fireworks. How come Red Pandas didn't become extinct hundreds of years ago?

QueenCamilla · 14/11/2024 01:23

I hate the stuff. Pandas or no pandas. I get no pleasure from the fucking whistles, bangs and smoke. Some people must lead very dull lives indeed if a few burning sparks are the epitomy of entertainment for them.
I thought the rough dimwits would have dropped their hobby in adulthood (it were always the rough dimwits setting off fireworks when I was at school ) alas... They're still rough dimwits and still haven't found anything better to do.
Every year around this time, I'm awaiting a misaligned firework (accompanied by drunken whooping) come shooting through my bay window.

That's one thing I miss about living somewhere more upmarket - many times less idiots with personal fireworks.
I can just about abide the public displays.

RIP baby panda.

NoisyDenimShaker · 14/11/2024 00:58

I think zoos are better than animals starving to death in the wild or being torn apart by predators, plus zoos are educational and often carry out research and conservation.

I think the risk to animals from fireworks is minimal, especially compared to all the other things we put them through. It's unnatural for dogs to live indoors. It's cruel to ride horses. We have pets for OUR pleasure and we keep them captive. What's the difference between a zoo animal and a pet? Both are living in captivity in unnatural conditions and there to serve selfish humans.

Once you start thinking this way, there's almost nothing that seems acceptable except going back to living like cavepeople.

XLchihuahua · 14/11/2024 00:49

BillPurchase · 13/11/2024 20:18

And in the craze of the past 20 years of dog cages in the home.

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Absolutely

XLchihuahua · 14/11/2024 00:46

Playingintheshadow · 14/11/2024 00:02

That's a load of absolute nonsense. You don't know much about animals. See my post above.

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Agreed. Once you've seen an animal unable to be calmed down no matter what you do or say, you cannot see fireworks in the same way ever again. A quiet animal may still be distressed.

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