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Wrap around care for those who don't work??

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Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 16:34

Free breakfast clubs, afterschool clubs. Why would you need this if you are at home all day anyway? Another kick in the teeth to working parents. Obviously not including those in dire need of this care.

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DinosaurMunch · 13/11/2024 17:19

lasagnelle · 13/11/2024 17:19

Do you want her life?

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Or her kids life...

DinosaurMunch · 13/11/2024 17:19

Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 17:04

And here is the reason why. My (estranged) SIL. 6 kids. Very chaotic home life granted. Never ever worked a day in her life. Yet she has the time to do a weekly bonus ball syndicate online. Chasing people for money. Constantly shop for birthday/ Christmas presents. Drinks most weekends, holidays to benidorm. Slag's off the schools constantly on social media (happy to accept their childcare) and yet us MUGS are working our arses off, and have no free time.

Is she likely to get up an hour earlier to use breakfast club then? Is a feckless parent going to think it's worth it just to save 20p on a bowl of cornflakes?

lasagnelle · 13/11/2024 17:19

Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 17:04

And here is the reason why. My (estranged) SIL. 6 kids. Very chaotic home life granted. Never ever worked a day in her life. Yet she has the time to do a weekly bonus ball syndicate online. Chasing people for money. Constantly shop for birthday/ Christmas presents. Drinks most weekends, holidays to benidorm. Slag's off the schools constantly on social media (happy to accept their childcare) and yet us MUGS are working our arses off, and have no free time.

Do you want her life?

MurdoMunro · 13/11/2024 17:18

Good point @Completelyjo. OP you tell us that it’s not the ‘nanny’ state’s’ job to raise these children, you’re family, what are you doing to reduce the burden on us tax payers?

reluctantbrit · 13/11/2024 17:18

SAHP who are ill or who have care responsibilities, one parent on shift work who has to sleep during the day.

Homes where parents aren't able to feed the children, unsafe homes (no heating, mould or similar), overcrowded homes

Homes with domestic violence where the child is not safe

There are tons of reasons a wrap around care is benefitting a child regardless of the parent's employment status.

Ellie1015 · 13/11/2024 17:17

I am glad your 6 nieces and nephews are getting more support if SIL is that bad.

Shinyandnew1 · 13/11/2024 17:17

Crunchymum · 13/11/2024 17:00

None of that is free at my kids school. Breakfast club, after school club, holiday club and hobby clubs all have to be paid (there are concessions for parents on UC but it's still nowhere near free!)

The government are proposing a free wraparound offer at primaries.

Completelyjo · 13/11/2024 17:14

Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 17:07

The same as the fact schools and nursery's are expected to 'teach kids to brush their teeth' I'm sorry but who is actually inept enough that they can't brush their kids fucking teeth twice a day/ supervise. Stop pretending it's 'all ok' no, we have become a nanny state to the huge detriment to our services. Poor teachers, poor nursery workers. Boohoo I'm too 'poor' to afford a toothbrush yet I can buy a vape

Strange you would have an issue with this when you say you have a 6 nieces and nephews who have a chaotic home life and low quality parenting from what you describe.
Why should there be no safety net for those kids to learn basic selfcare due to being unfortunate enough to be born to a bad mother?
You moan about a nanny state but a small government view would say that you as part of the family should provide part of the solution.

PuppyTimes · 13/11/2024 17:13

If life on unemployment benefits is so easy why exactly are you working?

OrNo · 13/11/2024 17:12

Wow. Where's the compassion for the children?

It is NEVER EVER the child's fault for the choices their parents make. If the choice is between the 6 children your SIL has sitting in front of screens for 90 minutes or learning football, crafting, coding, gymnastics, dance, multi sports etc at after school club which do you think is better for the children?

Remember, free breakfast is for the child. After school enrichment activities are for the child.

You can spit vitriol at parents choosing vapes over vegetables but it's the children who suffer.

Startinganew32 · 13/11/2024 17:09

Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 17:07

The same as the fact schools and nursery's are expected to 'teach kids to brush their teeth' I'm sorry but who is actually inept enough that they can't brush their kids fucking teeth twice a day/ supervise. Stop pretending it's 'all ok' no, we have become a nanny state to the huge detriment to our services. Poor teachers, poor nursery workers. Boohoo I'm too 'poor' to afford a toothbrush yet I can buy a vape

There are shitloads of really inept and outright awful parents. Read the news about certain court cases going on at the moment. That’s why there needs to be intervention to try to help the kids who didn’t ask to be born to these people. This is one form of that intervention.

MurdoMunro · 13/11/2024 17:09

FFS OP. This is nothing to do whether wrap around care should be preserved for particular classes of patent. This is about you and your relationship with your SIL. Close this thread and start a new one and have the decency to be clear about what you are seeking comment about. Did you really think we’d all come on here and say ‘yeah, SAHMs are all useless free loading slags and don’t deserve to have their kids go to after school clubs’. I mean, bloody hell.

BabyPandaa · 13/11/2024 17:08

where is this? i’m a lone parent and i don’t work due to dds disability, she had an operation and i had to send my kids to after school club that day as i had no one to collect them and i wasn’t going to get back on time and i was charged for it so where is this happening? first time they ever went and was an emergency..

CatJumpingApple · 13/11/2024 17:08

Are available spaces the issue ?
Ah no

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Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 17:07

The same as the fact schools and nursery's are expected to 'teach kids to brush their teeth' I'm sorry but who is actually inept enough that they can't brush their kids fucking teeth twice a day/ supervise. Stop pretending it's 'all ok' no, we have become a nanny state to the huge detriment to our services. Poor teachers, poor nursery workers. Boohoo I'm too 'poor' to afford a toothbrush yet I can buy a vape

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Startinganew32 · 13/11/2024 17:06

Well that shows the need for these clubs doesn’t it because every hour that her children are away from her is probably better than if they are with her.

TheJones · 13/11/2024 17:06

Are you saying OP - it should be free for working parents and those deemed as needed (for example looked after children/ disadvantaged kids etc) so it’s more selective ? Rather than a whole brush stroke approach and costing the taxpayer a lot of money paying for some who don’t need it? If so then yes that’s fair.

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Raisinsandweetabix · 13/11/2024 17:04

And here is the reason why. My (estranged) SIL. 6 kids. Very chaotic home life granted. Never ever worked a day in her life. Yet she has the time to do a weekly bonus ball syndicate online. Chasing people for money. Constantly shop for birthday/ Christmas presents. Drinks most weekends, holidays to benidorm. Slag's off the schools constantly on social media (happy to accept their childcare) and yet us MUGS are working our arses off, and have no free time.

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cadburyegg · 13/11/2024 17:03

I don't resent children getting this at all.

Children are much more likely to disrupt a class if they are hungry. Warm, well fed children who arrive at school on time benefit their whole class. They are also more able to learn and get the most out of their education which benefits society.

MurdoMunro · 13/11/2024 17:02

Is this another one of these shit mothers who don’t work go to the left of the room, shit mothers who prioritise work over their children go to the right, now FIIIIIIGHT kinda threads? Will the OP come back? Who knows. It’s a mystery

Crunchymum · 13/11/2024 17:00

None of that is free at my kids school. Breakfast club, after school club, holiday club and hobby clubs all have to be paid (there are concessions for parents on UC but it's still nowhere near free!)

mitogoshigg · 13/11/2024 17:00

Breakfast clubs are about nutrition not care principally so why a kick in the teeth?

After school care may be due to chaotic home life

Lucy25 · 13/11/2024 16:59

lasagnelle · 13/11/2024 16:37

Why do you think it's wrong? A lot of kids getting free school meals have parents that work!

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Exactly.

Devilsmommy · 13/11/2024 16:58

needhelpwiththisplease · 13/11/2024 16:54

Imagine being annoyed that children will get before & after school care.

I know, how dare they🙄

purpleme12 · 13/11/2024 16:58

I'm so confused
Where is this free wraparound care all these posts are talking about?!?

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