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Honest opinions ... is a UK 14/16 seen as unattractive for dating as a 50 year old?

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lemonepisode1 · 13/11/2024 13:13

I'm online dating for a while. My face is decent and I'd consider myself relatively attractive in the looks stakes but it is my body that men seem to dislike.
As above , I'm that size, 5'7', proportioned except for a wide , flabby meno belly.Im 2.5stone overweight on the scales.
I weight train and walk and run over the week.. so I exercise every day. Look after my appearance/ clothes/ grooming etc but I really believe it's my body that turns them off .
Honestly, especially to men on here, is that size and body type unattractive to you on a woman who is 50?
What are your experiences and more so, what do you find attractive out of interest ?
Thanks.
Lemon

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How2024 · 14/11/2024 14:40

Reading all of this has made me love my two cats even more.

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 14:39

I guess she must have a strong stomach

There are all sorts of reasons people get into relationships with significantly older people. We're not a party to those reasons.

Myself and my dd's Dad would have run you off, with that age gap, at that age. You wouldn't have been dating my DD, not a fucking chance. I wonder about her parents.

lemonepisode1 · 14/11/2024 14:35

@Tulip2478 ... and you think that this is normal in a couple who are meant to love and respect each other???? Let's
Hope you don't get sick and or change physically for any reason eg surgery, disease, disability. You seem to accept this in a man who is meant to love and honour you . Mind blown 🤯

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DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 14:33

I don't think a man whose partner is a size 6 and "also preferred slimmer women" (wrongly calling size 6 as slimmer) is really the person to comment on a women's dress size/figure.

You're not representative at all.

I'm a 12 (10 when skinny) and I've lost count of how many men have commented on my thinness "there's not a pick on her", "eat something!" (when I couldn't pull a sailing dinghy up a slope easily). Their wives are size 14/16 or so.

I'd say they're more representative.

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 14:29

I have always preferred slimmer women

Size 6 is not "slimmer".

I doubt most clothing brands even make size 6 clothes (unless they sell to tweenagers and teenagers like Quiz or somewhere) and that wouldn't be a recent phenomenon.

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 14:26

She is slightly above average height and a size 6.

6??

She must be extremely thin and/or tiny.

Also extremely unusual.

I sell on eBay and there's no point in trying to sell anything under a 12.

8 and 10 items lie unsold for months, if not years.

I wouldn't expect to sell a size 6 item to anyone but an older child.

IcedPurple · 14/11/2024 14:19

Tulip2478 · 14/11/2024 14:07

There is nothing wrong with that gap, it js the same as mine (17 years). It all depends if your purposeful only went for somebody much younger, or you happened to just fit! If my husband was only seeking out because I wasn't even 25 and he was 40 then that would have been a complete turn off tbh. My H says similar to you, he does not mind me ageing, which has been a worry of mine as it is with many women whose husbands are significantly older than them, but he does say he will not be attracted to be if I get fat. Reality is me and your partner will most likely be widowed young and be carers during our golden years. But life is unpredictable and sometimes the risk is worth it.

My H says similar to you, he does not mind me ageing, which has been a worry of mine as it is with many women whose husbands are significantly older than them

I don't get this. You are young enough to be your husband's daughter, but you are the one worrying about ageing?

but he does say he will not be attracted to be if I get fat.

What conditions do you set on his physical attractiveness?

LeavesToSweep · 14/11/2024 14:10

5128gap · 14/11/2024 13:53

In fairness to OP, I think she may have been interested in the views of men in her target group. You will be, what? 70s? So it's highly unlikely a 50 year old woman on OLD would want to date you, so the fact you wouldn't date her at a size 14/16 is somewhat moot. It's also a generational thing to an extent. In your era the 'ideal' body shape for a woman was much slimmer than that of most modern women. Younger men are used to a wider variety of shapes and sizes, they are active in a world where women are typically larger than they were in the 60s, so you may not be the best barometer of the tastes of men a generation younger than yourself.

I am in my early 60s.

Genuinely well over six feet, not overweight, fit, all my own teeth, a full head of hair, and no known health conditions. I’m not into fishing. I do own a bike but have only ridden it twice in the last year.

Tulip2478 · 14/11/2024 14:07

LeavesToSweep · 14/11/2024 10:19

Honestly, especially to men on here, is that size and body type unattractive to you on a woman who is 50

I am married to a 50 year old woman. She is slightly above average height and a size 6. Would I find a 50 year old woman that is a size 14/16 attractive? Possibly.

Attractive enough to date? Probably not. I have always preferred slimmer women and that hasn’t changed with age.

My daughter is in her early twenties and frankly the thought of her being with a man in his 40s nauseates her and me tbh

We got together when she was in her 20s and I was in my 40s (just). I guess she must have a strong stomach.

There is nothing wrong with that gap, it js the same as mine (17 years). It all depends if your purposeful only went for somebody much younger, or you happened to just fit! If my husband was only seeking out because I wasn't even 25 and he was 40 then that would have been a complete turn off tbh. My H says similar to you, he does not mind me ageing, which has been a worry of mine as it is with many women whose husbands are significantly older than them, but he does say he will not be attracted to be if I get fat. Reality is me and your partner will most likely be widowed young and be carers during our golden years. But life is unpredictable and sometimes the risk is worth it.

lemonepisode1 · 14/11/2024 14:03

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 13:52

he's currently 59 (but fit, slim and healthy.) His dating age range was set 20-60

Sorry but I don't think any well adjusted mid or late 50 something wants to date a 20 year old.

That's less than half their age. They're weren't born yet when they were 38.

What does a heading for 60 man truly have in.common with a 20 yr old?

That's his daughter's - or if he was an early starter, grand daughter"s age.

Just to add that if a post 35 (or even you get) man tried to date my 20 yr old DD, I wouldn't have to do anything about it, because her father would introduce him to the business end of a shot gun.

Edited

As would I 😂😂😂

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TwistedWonder · 14/11/2024 13:58

EveryDayisFriday · 14/11/2024 13:53

I also think it's age. I suspect that older men prefer younger women who are less experienced at dealing with dickheads and are therfore more likely to put up with their bullshit. Also the porn they are watching sets up unrealistic expectations that women in their 20s are desperate for an older guy.

Luckily you are weeding out these twats nice and early.

Yep. The amount of older men who put ‘no drama’ on their profiles which translates to ‘won’t call me out on my twattish behaviour’ which most women their own age won’t tolerate.

5128gap · 14/11/2024 13:53

LeavesToSweep · 14/11/2024 13:21

You specifically asked for input from men.

I am sorry if my response is not what you wanted to hear. Bear in mind that it reflects the preferences of one man, not all men.

In fairness to OP, I think she may have been interested in the views of men in her target group. You will be, what? 70s? So it's highly unlikely a 50 year old woman on OLD would want to date you, so the fact you wouldn't date her at a size 14/16 is somewhat moot. It's also a generational thing to an extent. In your era the 'ideal' body shape for a woman was much slimmer than that of most modern women. Younger men are used to a wider variety of shapes and sizes, they are active in a world where women are typically larger than they were in the 60s, so you may not be the best barometer of the tastes of men a generation younger than yourself.

EveryDayisFriday · 14/11/2024 13:53

I also think it's age. I suspect that older men prefer younger women who are less experienced at dealing with dickheads and are therfore more likely to put up with their bullshit. Also the porn they are watching sets up unrealistic expectations that women in their 20s are desperate for an older guy.

Luckily you are weeding out these twats nice and early.

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 13:52

he's currently 59 (but fit, slim and healthy.) His dating age range was set 20-60

Sorry but I don't think any well adjusted mid or late 50 something wants to date a 20 year old.

That's less than half their age. They're weren't born yet when they were 38.

What does a heading for 60 man truly have in.common with a 20 yr old?

That's his daughter's - or if he was an early starter, grand daughter"s age.

Just to add that if a post 35 (or even you get) man tried to date my 20 yr old DD, I wouldn't have to do anything about it, because her father would introduce him to the business end of a shot gun.

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 13:44

him telling me my hair didn’t look as red as it did in the photo

Oh my word, these cretins.

"Your hair doesn't look quite as red as it looks in the photo" ....
When they're lying about being 11 years younger that they are.

DamselinDistress24 · 14/11/2024 13:32

I think the prevalence of porn is a cause, as is the prevalence of "light" sex work through only fans and the like.

It's really obvious that some men let porn inform what they should get, what sex should be like etc. ..... With little to no qualification that it is porn, with paid actors & actresses.

Likewise they appear to gloss over/fool themselves/twist the fact that any young women having interaction with them on eg oy fans (pr SM that feeds Only fans) are only doing it for financial gain.

However men never needed porn or only favs to feel entitled to young women.
And they never questioned or cared whether young women would want them.
I can't remember which historical figure it was, but I remember a quote by a prominent "noble" man who was marrying a very young bride (in response to someone saying she wasn't a woman yet" responding "she'll be a woman by the morning".
Look at the Pitcairn islands thing.
There are so so many examples.

I always think a significantly portion of men have a sexuality underpinned by "I want that. End of story.

Whereas in comparison women's sexuality is almost exclusively "I might want that, but would "that" want me?".

LeavesToSweep · 14/11/2024 13:21

lemonepisode1 · 14/11/2024 12:41

Yes I find that exceptionally creepy.
I would be very sad for any of my children in their twenties to come home with a man in their forties , esp a man who knew their size , weight and bmi because they had asked them for that information. Unsettling tbh.

You specifically asked for input from men.

I am sorry if my response is not what you wanted to hear. Bear in mind that it reflects the preferences of one man, not all men.

KnigCnut · 14/11/2024 13:06

It's his own wife he is talking about. What is creepy about asking your wife their size, weight and BMI? If he was asking people here for theirs, or OLD sites before meeting, creepy for sure. But your own wife? Confused

It is perfectly possible for someone to be a size 6 and above average height for a woman, without being underweight! I really don't understand why so many here find this impossible to grasp. Some people are tall and slim, some people are tall and broad, without either being overweight. And they will have different dress sizes.

Rockschooldropout · 14/11/2024 13:06

TwistedWonder · 14/11/2024 11:23

I had one who put on his profile he was 54 and his user name was along the lines of Steve04061969.
On the first date he let it slip he was actually 60 next year - when I mentioned his profile said he was 54 he claimed it was a typo. What and the DOB in your user name was an accident as well?

Silly thing is I would have dated him had he been honest but the lies were a deal breaker.

Oh and he was 2/3 inches shorter than he claimed

Yep I had one say he was fifty in his profile , I’d just turned 40 , met up with him and he confessed he was 61 ! He didn’t look it but the lies were a turn off , coupled with him telling me my hair didn’t look as red as it did in the photo 🙈 . Didn’t stop him trying to interest me in booking a hotel room though 🤮… I gave up on OLD after that and met my husband in 2018 through work

lemonepisode1 · 14/11/2024 12:41

Yes I find that exceptionally creepy.
I would be very sad for any of my children in their twenties to come home with a man in their forties , esp a man who knew their size , weight and bmi because they had asked them for that information. Unsettling tbh.

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LeavesToSweep · 14/11/2024 11:49

Lastonightadjsavedmylife · 14/11/2024 11:00

I’m sorry that’s hugely unlikely. A size six on a woman above average height is likely to be significantly underweight. And I find it creepy you know her dress size, weight and bmi.

Whether you regard it as unlikely or not is irrelevant. It’s true. I know her weight, dress size and BMI because I asked her before I posted.

Creepy enough for you?

TwistedWonder · 14/11/2024 11:23

EBearhug · 14/11/2024 11:09

Oh, some of them definitely lie about their age. "But if I was honest about being 64, you wouldn't have looked at me." True, but what makes you think I find lying a positive character trait that will get you a second date?

I had one who put on his profile he was 54 and his user name was along the lines of Steve04061969.
On the first date he let it slip he was actually 60 next year - when I mentioned his profile said he was 54 he claimed it was a typo. What and the DOB in your user name was an accident as well?

Silly thing is I would have dated him had he been honest but the lies were a deal breaker.

Oh and he was 2/3 inches shorter than he claimed

TwistedWonder · 14/11/2024 11:13

Rockschooldropout · 14/11/2024 11:06

When I split from my husband at 39 I found that OLD all I was was attracting were 50 plus men some were 60 plus …. Or the other way and lads barely in their twenties who fancied the idea of an older woman 🙄

Yep. I seemed to be inundated with messages from men old enough to be my dad or young enough to be my son.

Most of the ones I did get my own age could barely string 3 words together or their opening message was something like ‘wow hot stuff’ 🤢

I would rather stay single forever

EBearhug · 14/11/2024 11:09

Oh, some of them definitely lie about their age. "But if I was honest about being 64, you wouldn't have looked at me." True, but what makes you think I find lying a positive character trait that will get you a second date?

Rockschooldropout · 14/11/2024 11:06

When I split from my husband at 39 I found that OLD all I was was attracting were 50 plus men some were 60 plus …. Or the other way and lads barely in their twenties who fancied the idea of an older woman 🙄