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My 4 year old has been drinking a lot of water and his mouth smells like acid like a battery acid what could this be?

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alpop · 13/11/2024 13:09

The past two days I've really noticed how much water (with a tiny bit dilution juice) he is drinking. He's asking me a lot for more. He will down it then ask for another one

His mouth smells like an acidic smell like battery acid. I have no better way of explaining it. It's smelt like that since yesterday. His older sisters have noticed it too and said he smells weird

He's well otherwise. He was running a lot today and has been at his nursery.

He's maybe eating slightly more. But he's completely well other wise

Diabetes runs in my family. My brother is type 1 and was really unwell at 5 years old. My mum didn't notice anything until he was passing out then admitted to hospital.

Does anyone have any ideas??

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Lougle · 19/11/2024 15:24

Val33 · 18/11/2024 10:14

I still feel this has all the signs of diabetes. I'd say if it continues take him back to the doctor or consult someone else.

It may be, but until the clinical signs (blood sugar levels) match the symptoms, nobody will be able to diagnose diabetes.

Shelley108 · 19/11/2024 15:01

My kids have food allergies, they sometimes have a funny smell on their breath when they’ve had a minor reaction to food and slight sore throats.

I have these allergies too and get really thirsty afterwards if I’ve had something that I shouldn’t 😬
just a thought x

Val33 · 18/11/2024 10:14

I still feel this has all the signs of diabetes. I'd say if it continues take him back to the doctor or consult someone else.

CeCeDrake · 17/11/2024 22:18

Ok so this is far out but any chance he’s popped something up his nose? My ds2 had put some tissue up his nose without anyone realising and o kept smelling a smell for weeks, he was drinking lots to clear the taste, eventually he blew his nose and something unholy exited! Smell gone, his appetite returned!

LoopyLouUK · 17/11/2024 18:28

That isn't what you said in the post I responded to. There was no need to go off on one at me responding to you the way I did, because you only said it wasn't diabetes at that point.

I won't be replying to your dismissiveness again. My comments have only been to make sure anyone going through this is safe. You have ignored everything I wrote in my posts to tell me stuff I stated I already knew. I will never risk a child's health by not sharing what I know about this topic. It might be a very rare condition but it's also extremely important to diagnose it quickly as you well know.

ChristmasCheesecake · 17/11/2024 16:15

Marieb19 · 17/11/2024 15:03

Why are you posting this to get advise from random strangers. Take him to see his doctor.

Why are you posting this 4 days after OP took him to the doctors?

x2boys · 17/11/2024 15:29

Marieb19 · 17/11/2024 15:03

Why are you posting this to get advise from random strangers. Take him to see his doctor.

She's taken him to see his Dr several days ago now...

Marieb19 · 17/11/2024 15:03

Why are you posting this to get advise from random strangers. Take him to see his doctor.

x2boys · 17/11/2024 13:49

LoopyLouUK · 17/11/2024 13:17

No she said the GP said it's not diabetes, that is very different. Many children with T1 diabetes are misdiagnosed by their GP.

My son's girlfriend works in a GP practice, even if their GPs diagnosed every T1 diabetic they have, their GPs would diagnose this approximately once a decade. It is very rare, hence GPs often miss it and why T1 diabetic care is almost always done by hospital specialists.

Even A&E initially misdiagnosed my son with T2, the night I told him he was T1 due to all the symptoms he was showing. The following night we were back in A&E with very high ketones (up to 5.1) and he was rediagnosed with T1 diabetes and spent the whole of the next day on 2 drips one with glucose the other with insulin to clear those ketones. We were lucky we got back there before he developed DKA which can be fatal.

Ultimately if all the signs point to T1 diabetes and any healthcare professional says it isn't it's worth getting a second opinion and a HbA1c blood test (that should be below 48mmol/mol, my son's was 132 mmol/mol at diagnosis)

I waa replying to another poster and the Gp is doing other tests anyway
I don't need lecturing about DKA being serious my son nearly died from it two years ago I'm aware of just how dangerous it can be .

LoopyLouUK · 17/11/2024 13:17

x2boys · 17/11/2024 09:52

She posted two days ago it's not Diabetes..

No she said the GP said it's not diabetes, that is very different. Many children with T1 diabetes are misdiagnosed by their GP.

My son's girlfriend works in a GP practice, even if their GPs diagnosed every T1 diabetic they have, their GPs would diagnose this approximately once a decade. It is very rare, hence GPs often miss it and why T1 diabetic care is almost always done by hospital specialists.

Even A&E initially misdiagnosed my son with T2, the night I told him he was T1 due to all the symptoms he was showing. The following night we were back in A&E with very high ketones (up to 5.1) and he was rediagnosed with T1 diabetes and spent the whole of the next day on 2 drips one with glucose the other with insulin to clear those ketones. We were lucky we got back there before he developed DKA which can be fatal.

Ultimately if all the signs point to T1 diabetes and any healthcare professional says it isn't it's worth getting a second opinion and a HbA1c blood test (that should be below 48mmol/mol, my son's was 132 mmol/mol at diagnosis)

Tanjamaltija · 17/11/2024 12:22

Acetone [pear drop sweets] smell possibly = diabetes Type IA. Please get him checked.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 17/11/2024 10:20

@x2boys
I think this was just a finger prick test at the GP, not always enough.
I wondered if any further tests had been done.

Packetofcrispsplease · 17/11/2024 09:54

BrizzleUK · 16/11/2024 21:32

May be get a check for Diabetes Insipidus? My daughter has this. It's not diabetes but peculiarly has that in its name! It's caused by a lack of anti-diuretic hormone, which means the kidneys keep releasing water (urine) hence permanent thirst.

Ooh yes ! I’d forgotten about that , it’s rarer and could account for the excessive drinking

x2boys · 17/11/2024 09:52

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 17/11/2024 09:44

Any update OP?

She posted two days ago it's not Diabetes..

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 17/11/2024 09:44

Any update OP?

T1Dmama · 17/11/2024 09:37

I believe you can buy diabetes test strips to test urine from chemists. Possibly ketone ones too.
my daughter was fine, then suddenly started drinking LOTS, lost weight and was really poorly. I thought it was covid as it was just after lock down, I would test him 2 hours eating something carby or give him something like pure orange juice & then test hour later and record sugars like that for a whole day.

Have you also looked in throat? When my daughter had tonsillitis her breath was awful!! Get him to swish mouthwash around in his mouth if you think he’s capable of it and spitting it out… think they do ones for children.

hope your baby is better soon and I hope it’s not type 1 diabetes as it’s fkn hard work

MadMadaMim · 17/11/2024 09:37

A finger prick test is only a 'now' snapshot. Please tell your GP you want HbA1c done. This is a much more accurate informative test and will show what's been going on the past 3 months with blood glucose levels.

The weird smell could be because he's in ketosis. Also related to diabetes.

HumberstoneNJ · 17/11/2024 07:41

Thanks BarbaraHoward.

BarbaraHoward · 17/11/2024 07:34

HumberstoneNJ · 17/11/2024 07:32

Please get him checked extremely urgently if you haven't already. Go to the ED. ...
If he smells of battery acid and he has been increasedly thirsty (polydypsia) it indicates diabetes and ketoacidosis. It sounds like his body is breaking down fat for energy (resulting in ketoacidosis) as he hasn't sufficient insulin to break down blood glucose. His blood will be becoming very acidic and his blood glucose will be rising.

Take him to be checked now.
(Sometimes the smell of those developing ketoacidosis has been likened to pear drops)
Take him.

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OP posted 4 days and 270 posts ago. She's been to the doctor.

HumberstoneNJ · 17/11/2024 07:32

Please get him checked extremely urgently if you haven't already. Go to the ED. ...
If he smells of battery acid and he has been increasedly thirsty (polydypsia) it indicates diabetes and ketoacidosis. It sounds like his body is breaking down fat for energy (resulting in ketoacidosis) as he hasn't sufficient insulin to break down blood glucose. His blood will be becoming very acidic and his blood glucose will be rising.

Take him to be checked now.
(Sometimes the smell of those developing ketoacidosis has been likened to pear drops)
Take him.

Katej82 · 17/11/2024 02:00

alpop · 13/11/2024 13:09

The past two days I've really noticed how much water (with a tiny bit dilution juice) he is drinking. He's asking me a lot for more. He will down it then ask for another one

His mouth smells like an acidic smell like battery acid. I have no better way of explaining it. It's smelt like that since yesterday. His older sisters have noticed it too and said he smells weird

He's well otherwise. He was running a lot today and has been at his nursery.

He's maybe eating slightly more. But he's completely well other wise

Diabetes runs in my family. My brother is type 1 and was really unwell at 5 years old. My mum didn't notice anything until he was passing out then admitted to hospital.

Does anyone have any ideas??

Hi I know people have said get checked I agree but if it's tap water smell it. I don't drink it anymore stinks of chlorine the a swimming pool and that would play havoc on the stomach which could cause snell. If your not already switch to bottle water

HollyKnight · 16/11/2024 23:32

Trapunt0 · 16/11/2024 23:29

Is there an easier way to find OP updates than by scrolling?

Click "see all" at the bottom of any of the OP's posts.

Trapunt0 · 16/11/2024 23:29

Frith2013 · 14/11/2024 19:11

Why don't people read updates?

Is there an easier way to find OP updates than by scrolling?

LoopyLouUK · 16/11/2024 22:48

greengreyblue · 16/11/2024 19:56

She’s been to gp. He’s not diabetic

As the parent of a diabetic person, I am in several support groups, many parents in those groups report the GP missing the diagnosis for a variety of reasons. Many of those children ended up in hospital for days. Even if a GP has said it is not T1 diabetes it is still worth keeping a very close eye on it. I was told it's only the amount my son was drinking that had stopped him ending up seriously ill. I discovered that at diagnosis he had built up to 8 litres per day, he was a young adult and so most of that wasn't in front of me.

Mirabai · 16/11/2024 22:36

Bimblesalong · 16/11/2024 20:04

With respect, a “not diabetic” at the dr needs to be treated with caution. My ds was told not diabetic 3 times at gp visits in the 6 months leading up to his diagnosis of t1.

I hope it isn’t diabetes and that the OP’s child is on the mend.

Was that on the basis of normal blood glucose readings?