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ijustwanttodu · 2024-11-12T22:01:33+00:00

So HR have fabricated an entire meeting. I had a meeting with them and they said we discussed this issue with you a year ago. They claim I was taken into a small room and talked to by someone who has since left. 3 weeks into me starting there. I was taken aback and said what date was this and she got quite flustered and tried to change the subject and then gave me the vague answer of what month it occurred. And then she said all this bad stuff about me, how I kept coming into work late during that time. I don’t know why she would do this.

TheRealKatnissEverdeen · 12/11/2024 23:47

A bit frustrating OP that you havent said why they've called this recent meeting and if there have been issues with timekeeping.

People could then advise accordingly.

Appreciate it's stressful.

DirlingWhervish · 12/11/2024 23:39

It does sound a bit like they've mixed you up with someone else, but without knowing what triggered the meeting you just had it's difficult to say. Have you been poor at time keeping? Is it critical to your role? Where is your manager in all this?

Regardless, if you really don't remember it happening, I would think you are entitled to see what's held on file about you, under gdpr if nothing else.

decembersnows · 12/11/2024 23:20

What's the other half of the story?
Have you had a recent meeting with HR?

BenditlikeBridget · 12/11/2024 23:03

Why has this come up now?

AliceMcK · 12/11/2024 22:51

ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:09

I know it’s very unlikely we work for the same company but will they be able to produce this if the person I had the meeting with is no longer working there?

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In a previous job I had (over 10years ago now) I was able to access all email and calendar information on any employee who’d worded for the company, every email ever sent was stored, I regularly retrieved ex employees emails and calendar entries.

MissMoneyFairy · 12/11/2024 22:49

Why did hr want another meeting with you a year later, did they follow a complaints or disciplinary process or just call you in, has your line manager spoken to you about time keeping or have any concerns, it seems strange to be called into an hr meeting without any discussion, what sort if company is it, do you have annual appraisals,

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ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:43

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 12/11/2024 22:38

Is it possible they are making up this other meeting so that they can say you have had 2 verbal warnings?

Who knows. But that is my concern.

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andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 12/11/2024 22:38

Is it possible they are making up this other meeting so that they can say you have had 2 verbal warnings?

crowsfeet57 · 12/11/2024 22:37

Charlize43 · 12/11/2024 22:34

HR are awful. They always side with the managers even in bullying and sexual harassment cases.

I remember at the start of my career (40 years ago) being told that HR were not to be trusted; that they were not your friends... and after have seen them mistreat co-workers, came to experience it myself many years later.

This!

Charlize43 · 12/11/2024 22:34

HR are awful. They always side with the managers even in bullying and sexual harassment cases.

I remember at the start of my career (40 years ago) being told that HR were not to be trusted; that they were not your friends... and after have seen them mistreat co-workers, came to experience it myself many years later.

MoodEnhancer · 12/11/2024 22:28

Gliblet · 12/11/2024 22:14

Any records of meetings of that nature (performance concerns, probation reviews) should be kept on your personnel file rather than in an individual HR team member's file. I'd be asking for a copy of relevant notes, dates of meetings, names of those involved, a copy of their retention schedule and a copy of the grievance procedure.

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This is spot on. If they are trying to rely on a meeting that never happened or they claim happened but have no record of, then you should consider putting in a grievance.

PrincessofWells · 12/11/2024 22:23

@Gliblet has laid out very well what you need to do.

FitAt50 · 12/11/2024 22:22

What was the purpose of this NEW meeting, and what exactly are they saying is the issue.

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ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:21

Honestly I know this is dramatic but it’s making me think about leaving.

A long time ago I worked somewhere where they would just sack people for fun. They picked someone they didn’t like and would do whatever they needed to get them gone.

I don’t want to work for another company where certain people abuse their position of power to get people sacked for their sad kicks. I’m single and have just my salary to rely on so this feels like I’m highly at risk.

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cordeliavorkosigan · 12/11/2024 22:19

They have probably confused you with someone else

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 12/11/2024 22:18

It should be on your personel file and if there was a cause for concern they would be often have you sign to say the discussion has happened. Ask for the date and notes of the meeting as you do not recall sch an event. It is your right to see this.

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ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:16

Gliblet · 12/11/2024 22:14

Any records of meetings of that nature (performance concerns, probation reviews) should be kept on your personnel file rather than in an individual HR team member's file. I'd be asking for a copy of relevant notes, dates of meetings, names of those involved, a copy of their retention schedule and a copy of the grievance procedure.

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Grievance procedure?

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Gliblet · 12/11/2024 22:14

ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:09

I know it’s very unlikely we work for the same company but will they be able to produce this if the person I had the meeting with is no longer working there?

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Any records of meetings of that nature (performance concerns, probation reviews) should be kept on your personnel file rather than in an individual HR team member's file. I'd be asking for a copy of relevant notes, dates of meetings, names of those involved, a copy of their retention schedule and a copy of the grievance procedure.

ChristmasPostman · 12/11/2024 22:11

YANBU unreasonable to be concerned about having no recollection whatsoever about a meeting HR insist happened. It sounds quite Kafkaesque!

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ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:09

stayathomer · 12/11/2024 22:08

They need to show minutes or an email record of you going for the meeting x Sounds like they don’t have a leg to stand on

I know it’s very unlikely we work for the same company but will they be able to produce this if the person I had the meeting with is no longer working there?

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ijustwanttodu · 12/11/2024 22:08

NotThoseKindOfEggs · 12/11/2024 22:06

It sounds more like the manager that left perhaps had a different version of events and recorded this on your file, not HR being deliberately malicious. Where is your current manager in all this? Have you had an issue with timekeeping?

It wasn’t a manager that left, it was someone who worked in HR. Someone I’ve never heard of and had no recollection of having a meeting with. And 3 weeks into my new job I’m sure I would remember a meeting with HR because I would have been worried about not passing probation:

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stayathomer · 12/11/2024 22:08

They need to show minutes or an email record of you going for the meeting x Sounds like they don’t have a leg to stand on

NotThoseKindOfEggs · 12/11/2024 22:06

It sounds more like the manager that left perhaps had a different version of events and recorded this on your file, not HR being deliberately malicious. Where is your current manager in all this? Have you had an issue with timekeeping?