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SIL describing herself as "retired" pissing me off

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SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 18:07

I have recently retired. I've worked full time my entire career, as well as bringing up 4 kids. I know. Heroic.
My SIL is a SAHM to 3 grown up kids. She's had the odd temporary very part time hobby job in the 30 years I have known her. She is now also describing herself as "retired". I'm not sure why I find this irritating.

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DelicateSoundOfEchos · 12/11/2024 19:17

Well if she isn't a SAHM and doesn't have any part time jobs any longer then she is retired so you're being a bit daft really.

MySistersCard · 12/11/2024 19:16

God, my MIL used to describe my job as a “hobby job” on the basis that we weren’t relying on my earnings. I can’t tell you how cross it used to make me and on that basis I think YABU.

Focus on enjoying your own retirement, not grumbling about your SIL’s. Also have a think about whether any of this relates to your feelings about your own identity in retirement- it’s a big change.

plentyofapplesdaphne · 12/11/2024 19:16

I am an older mum to school age dc. I tend to describe myself as retired as I have private means and not looking for work. It's easier in general conversation. It is also a sad reflection of the view of sahm. I have worked full-time, part-time and taken time off as a sahm.

I feel fortunate not to have to work and the means not to have to do so. I got made redundant from a job that I'd worked very hard at for a number of years and it made me take another look at the world of employment and what I do with my time and what the actual value is other than monetary.

It is easy to feel bitter. Comparison leads nowhere. And whilst I'm fortunate in this respect I am less fortunate in other aspects of life. It is about concentrating on your own life and having least regrets. I can understand your bitterness in a way but perhaps you need to reflect on this going forward and how to live your life your way and to the fullest from now on.

amymel2016 · 12/11/2024 19:16

MrsPinkSky · 12/11/2024 18:45

Only a cunt would do that.

😂

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 12/11/2024 19:15

SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 19:05

I'm interested in all your responses, and I am prepared to accept I am being pretty grumpy. I think it's because I assume retired means retired from work. Paid work. I'm more than likely letting my annoyance with her on a range of other issues cloud my view. She has been pretty critical of my work and parenting and considers herself to be a bit of a parenting guru. Drip feed I know. I'll wind my neck in. Thank you all.

OK, so the actual issue is that she's a tit?

Drivingoverlemons · 12/11/2024 19:15

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/11/2024 19:09

This makes me feel so sad and depressed, @lolly792. I stopped working when ds3 was born - if I’d carried on working, 100% of my take home pay would have gone to pay the nursery costs, and I couldn’t see the point of it. By the time the boys were old enough for me to consider going back to work (ie. old enough not to need wrap around care before and after school - my working hours were 8am - 6pm, and wrap around care seemed to cost more than full time nursery care), my professional qualifications had lapsed, and my skills (Theatre nurse) were outdated so I never went back.

It sounds as if you are saying I am a failure because of this - because I ‘never had any success in the working world’. Can you see how hurtful that is?

FWIW I have worked through having kids but your theatre nursing career, even though now lapsed, is far more impressive to me than anything I have ever done. I think every family just does what works best for them and so it’s impossible to generalise about working or staying at home.

SundayBloodySunday · 12/11/2024 19:15

I think this is insecurity, OP. She knows she's being odd. But she probably doesn't value the fact that she stayed at home after having her kids and never went back to work. She probably thinks it's a bit sad tbh. I'd think it was marvellous if I was her!

IHateClothesShopping · 12/11/2024 19:15

Artistbythewater · 12/11/2024 19:11

So she was anorexic with an exercise addiction. No doubt that was very consuming and debilitating. She is lucky to be alive. I wouldn’t call mental illness a blessing and an easy life tbh.

She was never anorexic. If she had been I would have been very worried about her. She was always a normal weight and sometimes a bit overweight (size 14 to size 18). Physically very fit as you can imagine from that much exercise. However like myself she had MH issues due to our childhood and this was how she coped.

LadyKenya · 12/11/2024 19:14

Jifmicroliquid · 12/11/2024 19:06

Quite possibly. But when you work your backside off (plus have a chronic life-limiting illness), it does grate a bit when people sort of make out that they’ve earned their payday money 🤣

Oh, fair play to you for admitting that you may have had a touch of the green eyed monster. It must not have been easy for you either, working with a medical condition as well.🌻

KoalaCalledKevin · 12/11/2024 19:14

My SIL is a SAHM to 3 grown up kids

She doesn't call herself that, does she? A SAHM?

Pinkruler · 12/11/2024 19:13

What do you mean by 'hobby job' ? Low paid work ? It's not necessarily akin to a hobby , nor without value.

Drivingoverlemons · 12/11/2024 19:12

SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 19:05

I'm interested in all your responses, and I am prepared to accept I am being pretty grumpy. I think it's because I assume retired means retired from work. Paid work. I'm more than likely letting my annoyance with her on a range of other issues cloud my view. She has been pretty critical of my work and parenting and considers herself to be a bit of a parenting guru. Drip feed I know. I'll wind my neck in. Thank you all.

I suspect it’s the back story that causes this to annoy you rather than the actual thing she says. You are both parents but have had a different experiences - you have at times found your own experience hard work. She has been critical of your work and parenting and now you feel she is trying to ‘share’ the thing you felt had for yourself.

Artistbythewater · 12/11/2024 19:11

IHateClothesShopping · 12/11/2024 19:09

I don't understand your post. Are you saying she had an eating disorder. Yes I think she probably did and MH issues. I suppose I just viewed going to the gym as a hobby and therefore leisure time and was a bit taken aback at her saying how busy she was.

So she was anorexic with an exercise addiction. No doubt that was very consuming and debilitating. She is lucky to be alive. I wouldn’t call mental illness a blessing and an easy life tbh.

itsmylife7 · 12/11/2024 19:11

Go and enjoy the freedom of your retirement OP.

sunights · 12/11/2024 19:11

YANBU
Appreciate you've said you'll bow out OP but can't help be curious based on your other comments as to whether she knows (i.e. is deliberately) she is winding you up by saying it.. and also if there is a comeback you can use?? or even tell her how you feel imho cause its valid.

the7Vabo · 12/11/2024 19:11

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/11/2024 19:09

This makes me feel so sad and depressed, @lolly792. I stopped working when ds3 was born - if I’d carried on working, 100% of my take home pay would have gone to pay the nursery costs, and I couldn’t see the point of it. By the time the boys were old enough for me to consider going back to work (ie. old enough not to need wrap around care before and after school - my working hours were 8am - 6pm, and wrap around care seemed to cost more than full time nursery care), my professional qualifications had lapsed, and my skills (Theatre nurse) were outdated so I never went back.

It sounds as if you are saying I am a failure because of this - because I ‘never had any success in the working world’. Can you see how hurtful that is?

To be fair to the OP I think if her sister had been a nurse prior to having kids she would have mentioned it.

Artistbythewater · 12/11/2024 19:09

Why don’t you have a party op. Celebrate your own achievements properly.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/11/2024 19:09

lolly792 · 12/11/2024 18:16

I wouldn't be pissed off, I'd feel sorry for her if she's never had any sort of success in the working world.

Ask her about her pension arrangements now she's 'retired'!! She won't even have a full state pension by the sound of it never mind an occupational one. Guess she's relying on the Important Man to bank roll her Grin

This makes me feel so sad and depressed, @lolly792. I stopped working when ds3 was born - if I’d carried on working, 100% of my take home pay would have gone to pay the nursery costs, and I couldn’t see the point of it. By the time the boys were old enough for me to consider going back to work (ie. old enough not to need wrap around care before and after school - my working hours were 8am - 6pm, and wrap around care seemed to cost more than full time nursery care), my professional qualifications had lapsed, and my skills (Theatre nurse) were outdated so I never went back.

It sounds as if you are saying I am a failure because of this - because I ‘never had any success in the working world’. Can you see how hurtful that is?

IHateClothesShopping · 12/11/2024 19:09

Artistbythewater · 12/11/2024 19:06

She has an ED? Okay.

Edited

I don't understand your post. Are you saying she had an eating disorder. Yes I think she probably did and MH issues. I suppose I just viewed going to the gym as a hobby and therefore leisure time and was a bit taken aback at her saying how busy she was.

PadstowGirl · 12/11/2024 19:08

Congratulations on your retirement OP. 🎉.
Don't let anything spoil what you have worked so hard for.

Tell us how you are going to spend your days? What plans do you have?
I'm interested as in only about 3 years behind you.

Autumnsunnydays · 12/11/2024 19:08

SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 18:14

She's late 50s. None of her children live at home any more. She leads a leisurely life.

Do basically you want her to say she is a lady of leisure. Will you do the same if it was the other way round?

Lentilweaver · 12/11/2024 19:07

Well that was a drip feed.
Q: Should my SIL criticise my parenting?
A: No.

mymissycat · 12/11/2024 19:07

pepperminticecream · 12/11/2024 18:55

You don't really know what her day to day looks like though do you? I am currently (mostly) a stay at home mum to little children (I occasionally take on freelance work when I want to) and I can guarantee that what I am doing at home all day with my children and our home is far more than what most working mums are doing when they are at home because I have the time to do those things and treat being an at home mum as a job. I am not doing simple chores and then relaxing, it is full on. You shouldn't be judged for working, nor should you think you understand what the day to day looks like for a stay at home mum either.

@pepperminticecream Dear Lord, you are honestly deluded. 😂 I have no words, you sound like a character from Motherland.

Jifmicroliquid · 12/11/2024 19:06

LadyKenya · 12/11/2024 18:47

Well, what is his, is her's, once married. How did that affect how you lived your life? I think that some jealously was at play here.

Quite possibly. But when you work your backside off (plus have a chronic life-limiting illness), it does grate a bit when people sort of make out that they’ve earned their payday money 🤣

Artistbythewater · 12/11/2024 19:06

IHateClothesShopping · 12/11/2024 19:03

I do understand the OP's point of view.

Perhaps however she just does not know what to call herself and it seems easiest

I'm early fifties and tell people I'm retired. Perhaps I should say 'lady of leisure' but that does not really feel fitting.

I was a high earning professional from leaving uni to mid forties. Then a carer to elderly people till they died. Now thanks to inheritance and no mortgage I don't work. I'm utterly exhausted though mentally and physically from 5 years of caring duties.

When people ask saying 'retired' just seems quicker and easier than explaining the above.

I do get where OP is coming from though.

I have a relative who was a SAHM but did very little housework (based on state of house) and fed kids ready meals. She did however spent 4-6 hours in the gym every day but proclaimed how 'busy' we all were. I have to admit I was a bit taken aback.
(Yes she did have some kind of OCD about dieting and exercising)

She has an ED? Okay.