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Next Doors Dogs - WWYD?

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SomeonTookMyAnonymousUserName · 12/11/2024 11:55

This is a WWYD, what would you do, post. I’m upset and don’t know if I am overreacting. I’m just looking for a sense check please.

NDN family has 4 dogs. Usually they don’t affect me or my family but, from time to time, we have had issues:
⁃ lots of dog mess in our garden (can’t always be sure it’s them but always in the same place and same size as when we’ve seen them do it)
⁃ Annoying barking at times, often very early morning (pre 7am)
⁃ Occasional aggressive behaviour (one of them backed my child up against a car whilst barking at her; she was terrified)
⁃ They are allowed to run free when their front door is opened. I have never seen any of them on a lead. They tend to come back when they are called.
NB we live in a new-ish estate with no garden walls, fences or hedges.

I have spoken to them about the dogs over the years but only in the midsts of the issues, ie, shouting to them to come and get their dog when my child was feeling under attack, telling them when they’ve fouled the grass, etc, nothing changes.

I work from home in an office at the front of our house and this morning saw all 4 of them on my grass. 2 of them were peeing on my grass, looked like 1 was pooing. So I went out, assuming NDN was around. She wasn’t but her front door was opened. I was a few feet from my front door when they surrounded me and started barking at me (in my garden).

I’m not overly scared of dogs but this terrified me. They are mid-sized dogs; taller than my knee height, and their barking was so loud and aggressive. I was terrified.

She popped her head out her door and called them. I wasn’t aggressive but raised my voice and said, ‘they’re shitting and peeing on my grass and barking at me. It’s so frustrating!’ Then I scurried indoors to get away from them. She didn’t say anything but to be fair, she didn’t get a chance to.

I was shaking with adrenaline and quite tearful afterwards.

I know I can report to council or police but is that an over reaction? WWYD?

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DrZaraCarmichael · 15/11/2024 17:43

SometimesCalmPerson · 12/11/2024 11:57

You need fences!

If these dogs have been bugging you for years, why have none of you got fences?

Quite often if it's a new build estate there will be a covenant saying you cannot put up walls/fences/hedges.

Boomer55 · 15/11/2024 17:08

Call the dog warden, and whoever deals with noise nuisance in your area.

ShittyTitty · 15/11/2024 17:03

If you're not allowed a fence, can you make some sort of barrier with bamboo in plant pots along the border? Stop the fuckers that way.

I'd be furious as I don't like dogs. Or people tbf

Loloj · 15/11/2024 16:29

First of all I would try to have a chat with your neighbour first - when you’re feeling calm. Ask them to not allow the dogs to roam free out the front as they scare your children and to stop them from going to the toilet on your grass. I’d also put some hedges/fence in regardless. If that doesn’t work then report to dog warden/ police as appropriate.

sharpclawedkitten · 15/11/2024 16:26

DragonflyFairy · 15/11/2024 16:01

Apologies if I'm missing something but I've never heard of dog wardens in real life, only ever on here. I've googled for my area and they only have contact details for stray or missing dogs.

Does every council have a dog warden and what do they do?

Sorry to hear your situation OP. I'm terrified of dogs and would be unable to leave the house in your position.

No they used to, but just as the numbers of dogs has soared, they've decided to cut back. It's why we need dog licences so councils can afford to employ them. It's not just for the benefit of neighbours, it's for the welfare of the dogs as well.

Flossflower · 15/11/2024 16:06

NewGreenDuck · 12/11/2024 12:21

Can you have hedges?

Yes, most people plant a hedge when they can’t have fences.

DragonflyFairy · 15/11/2024 16:01

Apologies if I'm missing something but I've never heard of dog wardens in real life, only ever on here. I've googled for my area and they only have contact details for stray or missing dogs.

Does every council have a dog warden and what do they do?

Sorry to hear your situation OP. I'm terrified of dogs and would be unable to leave the house in your position.

BMW6 · 15/11/2024 16:00

Put up a ring doorbell camera, tell NDN that you're fed up of her out of control dogs fouling your garden and that in future footage of them running loose and fouling will be passed on to the Police and Dog Warden.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 15/11/2024 15:55

I would tell ndn that Ive had enough and they've to keep their dogs off my land, including using it as a toilet, and away specifucally from my child and me, explaining that their barking is scary. If they ignored me, they'd end up with shit posted through their letter box, for starters.

Mandylovescandy · 15/11/2024 15:36

potatocakesinprogress · 12/11/2024 12:23

  1. Call the dog warden re them being off the leads and the mess. If you have other neighbours that will chime in with you, all the better as it does make your case stronger. Definitely mention the aggression toward the kids.
  2. If your kids don't go on the grass much, the spikes as the poster above suggested. If they do, make/buy tall wooden planters from decking and plant tall things in them.
  3. Spray bottle of vinegar - spray around your place, they hate the smell.
  4. Buy a bark deterrent, they stop barking really quickly after that. Less than £30 from Amazon and works like a dream.

Dealt with the same thing myself, this is what ended up working the best after lots of dead ends.

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This. I would try dog warden and police but be prepared for them to be less than helpful. A solution that keeps them off your property is your best solution

Eggsandavocado · 15/11/2024 15:29

Sia8899 · 12/11/2024 13:50

Sounds incredibly stressful! I’d report to the dog warden but instead if focussing on the fouling on your grass (I assume they don’t pick the poo up though), I’d focus on the antisocial hours barking, aggression and the fact they roam free without the owner to get onto the road/obstruct the pavement/corner young children.

If there’s a lot of pooing and they’re not picking it up I’d start bagging it and knocking on the door to give it back

Dog wardens are very hot on fouling, it’s part of their job to deal with it so that would add to the case.

FrazzledFTworkingMum · 15/11/2024 15:21

report to the councils community protection team - those dogs are a menace

mezlou84 · 15/11/2024 14:41

Get a camera. Every time there's dog poo on your grass then you can get the council to fine them. They'll soon keep them to the back garden and keep them off your grass. Next time the dog corners someone ring police about an uncontrollable dog, they'll have to keep it inside, on a lead and muzzled in public. When they're running around with no one there ring dog warden. They'll have to pay a fine when they collect their dog. Hit them where it hurts, in their pockets. I feel for the poor dogs being let roam gardens and allowed to be unpredictable cornering people by inadequate owners. If they bite or get run over it's the owners fault. Get the camera all evidence needed would be on that.

henlake7 · 12/11/2024 14:02

Very irresponsible, Id report them.

Or you could go a more passive aggressive route and set up a sprinkler in the front garden....let the neighbour deal with soaking wet dogs running back in the house all the time!😎

MagicSteaks · 12/11/2024 13:56

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Wordsmithery · 12/11/2024 13:52

Report them.
You shouldn't have to put up fences or spikes just because your neighbours don't control their animals. Fences are an unnecessary barrier to hedgehogs, foxes and small mammals that already struggle to navigate our hostile housing estates.
I'd be furious with these neighbours. Four dogs is excessive unless you live on a farm, and ridiculous on an estate. Their barking alone would drive me nuts.

Sia8899 · 12/11/2024 13:50

Sounds incredibly stressful! I’d report to the dog warden but instead if focussing on the fouling on your grass (I assume they don’t pick the poo up though), I’d focus on the antisocial hours barking, aggression and the fact they roam free without the owner to get onto the road/obstruct the pavement/corner young children.

If there’s a lot of pooing and they’re not picking it up I’d start bagging it and knocking on the door to give it back

AgileGreenSeal · 12/11/2024 13:45

Report to police, council, dog warden and anyone else you can think of. This is a nightmare.

ElaborateCushion · 12/11/2024 13:42

Not an overreaction - report them to the council and/or your local dog warden.

If your child has been scared by an unleashed dog, I'd be calling the police too. I don't care if the dog has good recall - it shouldn't be out of control enough to be going up to the kids in the first place.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 12/11/2024 12:58

Summary if you don't want to read my whole post
Get a camera for the front garden and record the dogs
Contact your local dog warden
It may escalate and may take a while to sort out

My neighbour had a similar problem. He contacted the dog warden who visited the owners. The dog owners didn't like that so started actively encouraging the dogs to go into his front garden to go to the toilet, together with screaming abuse at their house at 5.00 a.m. every morning because that is totally the rational and adult response.

He had a ring camera and caught it all. He contacted the dog warden again, who looked at the footage, decided it was harassment and contacted the police on my neighbour's behalf. A police officer saw the footage said 'I don't know where he comes from but we don't behave like that here' and went around to see the owner.

The owner was told to stop walking his dogs past my neighbour's house, and he did. He saw my neighbour in the local supermarket a few months ago and came up to apologize to him and they shook hands.

I am not sure what the police are like in your town. Ours rolled because one of my neighbours had two matresses in her driveway for a couple of weeks and some tosspot reported her to the police for .........something I guess. Our town is reknowned for being packed with drunken idiots though which could explain a lot of the behaviour. They are very nice when they aren't drunk.

cushionfiend · 12/11/2024 12:50

We had something similar - we used push-in fencing to keep the shitting dogs out. Google push-in fence and you'll see lots of options - wood, metal, etc. Not too pricey and worked a treat. And doesn't count as a permanent fence so can be easily removed if needed.

Thelnebriati · 12/11/2024 12:44

You can report the owner to the local dog warden as the dogs are out of control; even if they haven't bitten. Keep a diary and make a report for each incident.
She will probably guess it was you, so bear that in mind.

SomeonTookMyAnonymousUserName · 12/11/2024 12:34

motherofonegirl · 12/11/2024 12:27

Why are the dogs not let out in the back garden to toilet where you have fences? Perhaps ask your neighbour to do so because you/your children feel unsafe/uncomfortable around off lead dogs and that you don't want them toileting on your front lawn? Best talk to your neighbour when the dogs aren't around and you feel calm so it is a productive conversation. If that doesn't work, then you may have to report her for allowing the dogs to be off lead without proper supervision.

They are, in fact they are there now.

However, when the front door opens, they are allowed to just run off. For example, they often go to work with the guy so, in the mornings before he leaves in his van, he opens the door and lets them run till he's ready to go. Or when they get a delivery, they are allowed out.
They do seem to have good recall though.

But I believe that's often the time that they shit on my grass but I tend not to see it happen.

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MissUltraViolet · 12/11/2024 12:29

You have put up with this for far too long. You need to start sticking up for yourself, being assertive and making complaints.

Having the dogs running free out front, scaring children and shitting on peoples front gardens is an absolute piss take when they presumably have an enclosed back garden.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 12/11/2024 12:29

@SomeonTookMyAnonymousUserName throw some crushed up oxo cubes on her front grass. they wont want to leave her garden then!

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