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To not mention I have 50/50 custody on my dating profile

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WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 08:58

Hi all. I'm a bloke, but posting here because I'd appreciate a female perspective. I fear the below might read like engagement bait, but it's genuinely the dilemma I have, and I would like to know what people think.

I'm separated (nearly three years now, divorce imminent) with a very good relationship with my ex-wife. We share 50/50 custody of my daughter.

In my profile on dating sites I mention that I have 50/50 custody, because I was thinking that it's good to be up front, and I (perhaps naively) thought that women might read that and think that I'm a good dad.

But I'm now thinking I should remove that, because I'm scared it might be a "red flag".

I remember a thread on here by a woman who was unhappy that her husband wanted to go from having his (not her's) kids every other weekend and one evening a week to 50/50 custody (he wanted to see them more). She was unhappy with this, basically saying that she hadn't anticipated his children being a significant part of their lives when she married him. (She wanted him, not the kids).

I particularly remember one comment from a woman who'd said that when her step-children were kids, her and her husband had had them to stay every other weekend and one evening a week and that this "was enough".

(It wouldn't be enough for me. I would miss my daughter terribly.)

But I'm thinking maybe that because in our (sexist, patriarchal) society, women generally do most of the child rearing, EOW/1NAW is the default, and that might be what women are expecting if they meet a bloke with kids from a dating site. And that if they find out that instead, he has his child/children half the time, that this would be "too much?" Or even, they might thing that it's a strange thing to mention on a profile even if they didn't have a problem with it per se? Or they'd just be worried that I'm looking for someone to do the parenting so I don't have to. (For reference, I'm not one of those scumbag blokes who only wants 50/50 so that he can get out of paying maintenance, and then palms the kids off on his mum).

Anyhow, I'm thinking that I don't want any instant red-flags on my profile that would cause someone to "swipe left" without considering me.

Would it be unreasonable (and / or advisable) for me to just say that I have a daughter and leave it at that?

Not unreasonable: don't say you have 50/50 on your profile, because women might see that as weird or off-putting. Mention it later, if / when things develop.

Unreasonable: do say that you have 50/50, it's being honest and you should be proud of it, and women appreciate that.

OP posts:
LAMPS1 · 12/11/2024 09:45

Having your DC with you 50% of the time is very important to you so surely you wouldn’t be happy not mentioning it? You may have far fewer responses but the ones you do have won’t be put off by your honest and decent situation.

If you have tried being honest and have received no responses then I suppose you feel you might have more OLD chances by omitting your important information and hooking somebody in, only to reveal it later down the line when it becomes a dilemma.

It depends what you want from dating really doesn’t it.
IMO, leaving out the important info at the beginning won’t lead to a serious relationship but may lead to a few brief affairs or ONS’s. Is that what you are looking for?

I’d prefer to know the real situation from the onset.

Attelina · 12/11/2024 09:44

@WillVioletsDad

'Sorry, it's ridiculous for me to believe that we live in a sexist society?

Surely, there's evidence of sexism everywhere, in how women get lumbered with childcare, get paid less than men for doing the same job, are victims of sexual assault (in a society that teaches girls how not to get raped but doesn't teach boys not to be rapists) etc etc?'

😂😂😂😂😂

If you genuinely believe that utter, utter nonsense than I feel sorry for you and I conclude that you will not be successful in saying unless some god awful extreme feminist takes pity on you!

Stirrednshaken · 12/11/2024 09:43

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/11/2024 09:00

Is it that important for you to get laid that you are trying to work out with the help of women which approach will be most successful for you?

Eugh well you're a delight. At no point did he say that.

Lemonadeand · 12/11/2024 09:43

How about “loving and committed Dad to primary school aged daughter”. At least you are vastly less likely to run into paedophiles seeking out single parents than mums on OLD.

Wigglywoowho · 12/11/2024 09:42

I don't think you need to put that level of detail on a dating profile. I think saying you have a child and the age is enough. I think being clear about what you want is more important.

I'm married but if I wasn't married I would happily date a man with children. However, I wouldn't want to live with anyone or take on parenting responsibilities. Someone having 50:50 wouldn't bother me. It would just limit the amount of time we could spend together. Different people want different things.

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 12/11/2024 09:42

If you’re 55, it’s worth pointing out the 50/50 because just saying you have a child will lead most people to assume it’s an older teen or adult. It’s not the norm for a 55yo to still have a child that needs looking after, so women will likely be taken by surprise if you later mention it.

There really isn’t any point maximising matches if they aren’t going to go further than chat or one date.

Lemonadeand · 12/11/2024 09:40

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/11/2024 09:00

Is it that important for you to get laid that you are trying to work out with the help of women which approach will be most successful for you?

Such a cynical response.

Octopies · 12/11/2024 09:39

I would just mention that you have a daughter in your profile, then you can talk about custody arrangements once you meet someone you see potential with. I'm not sure most people would take the time to read a very detailed profile, so chances are they'd miss the part about 50/50 custody before swiping.

MrsMagoooo · 12/11/2024 09:38

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/11/2024 09:00

Is it that important for you to get laid that you are trying to work out with the help of women which approach will be most successful for you?

Fgs, check your bitterness.

Why do we get such awful responses when men post for advice? The OP has written a very thoughtful post and asked for help, where does it say he just wants to get laid. Is he not allowed to want a new relationship? Jeez.

WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 09:38

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 12/11/2024 09:32

Being a co-parent = not a red flag
Still married= red flag

Yeah, I can see that's a fair point. We have been separated (and living in separate addresses) for nearly three years now. The divorce has just got delayed because we needed to disentangle our finances (we had to sell two houses, and then buy his and her houses) and now it's taking ages to get pension details out of our providers. Solicitors are all in place, initial paperwork has been put in. But it's just taking a while.

My ex-wife has been dating for about eighteen months now and has a boyfriend.

I was thinking it was time for me to try and move on.

As a question: did everyone who has divorced and moved on, on here, wait until the divorce was finalised before starting dating again? Am I being massively out of order here? (Should say, this was one of those things I would mention very early on in chats, but not put in my profile, because I did figure it would sound really bad).

OP posts:
Willyoujustbequiet · 12/11/2024 09:32

It's actually the opposite of a red flag.

You want people to swipe left who can't accept you're a father and that will always be your priority. You need rid of these women because they aren't in your daughters best interests.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 12/11/2024 09:32

Being a co-parent = not a red flag
Still married= red flag

TwistedWonder · 12/11/2024 09:31

Personally as a woman of a similar age I wouldn’t date a man with school
age kids so it’s something I’d like to be aware of early on.

I don’t think you need to put that much detail on your profile but you need to bring it up very early in chats, definitely before arranging to meet imo

Lavenderflower · 12/11/2024 09:30

I think it is important to let people know you are a father - I don't think is necessary to state you are a 50/50 parent but equally I don't think it does any harm. It weeds out anyone who doesn't want to date someone with children.

Mischance · 12/11/2024 09:29

Honesty is the best policy. I would not be put off by the statement that you have a DD and wish to be a good father to her.

crackofdoom · 12/11/2024 09:26

WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 09:09

"if seeing you have 50/50 custody puts a woman off dating you then surely that’s a good thing to know before you start dating"

That was exactly my thinking. But in talking with other people (like my ex-wife) there seems to be a thought that if you put too much detail into your profile, then that in itself puts people off, so they never get a chance to know you. And that your profile should just give them a taste of who you are.

Should also say that I'm autistic (recently diagnosed) and that's another thing I struggle with wondering if I should mention it up front. I did have a profile that was very wordy and detailed (over-explaining is a classic autistic trait) but I've now tried to slim it down.

Fellow autistic here.

I found that the compatibility of my matches increased a lot when I mentioned my autism on my profile (further down the bio mind you, it was an answer to one of the questions, if you know Bumble). I attracted more ND men, and there was less sitting across the table from someone looking at me as if I had 2 heads 🙄.

In the year after changing my profile I met several really interesting men who I sadly didn't fancy, and now I'm dating someone who I do! (who is exploring the possibility that he might also be autistic now!)

QueSyrahSyrah · 12/11/2024 09:25

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/11/2024 09:00

Is it that important for you to get laid that you are trying to work out with the help of women which approach will be most successful for you?

I'd have thought if he just wanted to get laid the fact he has a daughter would be completely irrelevant because the person or persons he was shagging wouldn't be enough of a part of his life to ever meet her.

OP, I did a lot of online dating before I met DH and I think being upfront that you are a Dad is the best approach, but in terms of how much she's with you that's a conversation to have a bit further down the road from the initial match.

WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 09:22

AgileGreenSeal · 12/11/2024 09:21

“Am I being autistic in feeling a need to be over-honest?”

“Info-dumping” is an autistic trait.
I do it all the time (also autistic, late diagnosis).

Late diagnosis here too.😀

OP posts:
steppingin · 12/11/2024 09:22

@WillVioletsDad
If I'm honest, I think you're probably putting a little too much in to your profile.
Both my husband and I had about 20 words on ours, and had been at it a long time with varying lengths of profiles.

Especially on the swipe apps, people aren't looking to read a lot. I probably clicked on about 20% of people I swiped on, and would definitely click off if it was long.
In the early days, it's a numbers game, and I found the best strategy was match, see who made the effort to message/respond, exchange a few messages to garner the key details/red flags, book a short coffee date for the next day or so.
Else you can waste so much time reading profiles of people you won't even match with or exchange messages with.

I definitely wasted a lot of times in the early days, but once I switched to treating it as a meeting point - similar to glancing across the bar - and accepted the actual getting to know somebody would happen over coffee, I enjoyed dating a lot more and had a lot more time for life outside of it! I also met a lot of fabulous people who would never be romantic suitors but made great friends!

AgileGreenSeal · 12/11/2024 09:21

WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 09:14

Yeah, I get all of that. But I can't help but noticing that not a single female profile that I've looked at has mentioned custody. A few mention in the text that they have kids, but often the only mention that they have kids is in the profile information they fill in. So you can't tell if they 100% single mums, 90% (i.e. father has kids occasionally), 50%, or perhaps they're grown-up kids who've left home.

So it's like they don't think this is something that should go in the profile?

Am I being autistic in feeling a need to be over-honest?

“Am I being autistic in feeling a need to be over-honest?”

“Info-dumping” is an autistic trait.
I do it all the time (also autistic, late diagnosis).

WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 09:20

Attelina · 12/11/2024 09:18

Forget about the childcare but, 'But I'm thinking maybe that because in our (sexist, patriarchal) society,' that's enough to turn any woman away.

What a ridiculous thing to believe.

Sorry, it's ridiculous for me to believe that we live in a sexist society?

Surely, there's evidence of sexism everywhere, in how women get lumbered with childcare, get paid less than men for doing the same job, are victims of sexual assault (in a society that teaches girls how not to get raped but doesn't teach boys not to be rapists) etc etc?

OP posts:
Boomer55 · 12/11/2024 09:20

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/11/2024 09:00

Is it that important for you to get laid that you are trying to work out with the help of women which approach will be most successful for you?

He hasn't said that….🙄

WillVioletsDad · 12/11/2024 09:18

redskydarknight · 12/11/2024 09:17

I wouldn't want to date a man with children. So I would be annoyed to invest time in them and find this out later.

This is partly because that I'd assume that a man with children would spend a lot of time with them, and that, these days, it might well be 50/50. (Actually if I was looking for a man with children, I'd consider it a plus that they were a committed father).

I'm not going to hide the fact that I have a daughter. I'm going to leave in the bit that says I want to be a good dad to my daughter. I'm just talking about removing the reference to custody arrangements.

OP posts:
Attelina · 12/11/2024 09:18

Forget about the childcare but, 'But I'm thinking maybe that because in our (sexist, patriarchal) society,' that's enough to turn any woman away.

What a ridiculous thing to believe.

AgileGreenSeal · 12/11/2024 09:17

“In fact, I find the whole thing overwhelming and depressing, and I often think that should give up the whole thing and learn to be okay with being single.”

There wisdom in this too, OP.
Being in a relationship isn’t the be all and end all.

Perhaps you’re overthinking the whole thing and need to just live your life and be happy.
best wishes to you.

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