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Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

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OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

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KatyaKabanova · 11/11/2024 21:00

Freethebees · 11/11/2024 20:54

She's the poster girl for side chicks everywhere. Impossible to like either her or Charlie sadly.

Fully agree with OP.

It's the cause, surely? Not whether you like the woman or not.
Seems a strange thing to castigate a woman for - supporting victims of DV.

Freethebees · 11/11/2024 21:00

mynameiscalypso · 11/11/2024 20:57

I do find the level of vitriol still to be quite bizarre. Charles and Diana were divorced nearly 30 years ago and Charles and Camilla have been married for 20 years!

And he'd been sliding in her DMs and beyond whilst married.

BIossomtoes · 11/11/2024 21:00

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:58

There's no vitriol.

However if camilla is doing a documentary highlighting abuse against women, of course people are going to point out that

Camilla has also abused a woman.

Then so did Diana. She was the cause of Will Carling’s divorce.

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 11/11/2024 21:00

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:58

There's no vitriol.

However if camilla is doing a documentary highlighting abuse against women, of course people are going to point out that

Camilla has also abused a woman.

Except she hasn’t.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 21:00

Enchente · 11/11/2024 20:58

I wonder how many people contact Women’s Aid saying they’ve been emotionally abused and cite being cheated on as the nature of the ‘abuse’, caused by the OW.

I’m not saying it’s victimless, but to use the word abuse here is to downplay the very serious meaning which is intended in this documentary.

Emotional abuse is abuse though.

Lying, coercive control, it's all abuse.

Womens aid describes it as abuse.

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 11/11/2024 20:59

She's a strong advocate for all women who have been subjected to domestic violence. It's not a glamorous cause by any means so I am full of admiration for her for being so passionate about it.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:58

mynameiscalypso · 11/11/2024 20:57

I do find the level of vitriol still to be quite bizarre. Charles and Diana were divorced nearly 30 years ago and Charles and Camilla have been married for 20 years!

There's no vitriol.

However if camilla is doing a documentary highlighting abuse against women, of course people are going to point out that

Camilla has also abused a woman.

Enchente · 11/11/2024 20:58

I wonder how many people contact Women’s Aid saying they’ve been emotionally abused and cite being cheated on as the nature of the ‘abuse’, caused by the OW.

I’m not saying it’s victimless, but to use the word abuse here is to downplay the very serious meaning which is intended in this documentary.

mynameiscalypso · 11/11/2024 20:57

I do find the level of vitriol still to be quite bizarre. Charles and Diana were divorced nearly 30 years ago and Charles and Camilla have been married for 20 years!

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:54

BIossomtoes · 11/11/2024 20:53

This is ridiculous. The person who damages a marriage by having an affair is the one in the marriage.

Says who?

I completely disagree with you.

I have chosen to never sleep with a married man, as I would know the pain it would cause his wife. My actions and her husbands actions would cause that pain.

I have managed to never be with a married man

Freethebees · 11/11/2024 20:54

She's the poster girl for side chicks everywhere. Impossible to like either her or Charlie sadly.

Fully agree with OP.

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 11/11/2024 20:53

Presumably you detest Diana equally for the abuse of all the women whose husbands she shagged? No?

Infidelity is not domestic violence, and to compare the two is grossly offensive.

And Diana was no victim. She just knew how to manipulate for the sympathy vote.

Wendolino · 11/11/2024 20:53

Charles didn't physically abuse Diana did he? I have never heard that he did. I don't think Diana accused him of it. If you're referring to his relationship with Camilla, didn't you know that Diana had relationships with other men?

BIossomtoes · 11/11/2024 20:53

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:49

I mean having an affair with a married man , is obviously emotional abuse to the wife, Diana.

So let's be clear, Camilla has been abusive to someone.

Edited

This is ridiculous. The person who damages a marriage by having an affair is the one in the marriage.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:49

Lifeglowup · 11/11/2024 20:28

She hasn’t abuaed anyone. Camilla has long been concerned about domestic violence. I have wondered if she or someone she knows was a survivor of donestic abuse. Statistically she will know lots of people.

I mean having an affair with a married man , is obviously emotional abuse to the wife, Diana.

So let's be clear, Camilla has been abusive to someone.

TennisLady · 11/11/2024 20:49

This is something that actually made me feel more positive about Camilla. I hadn’t realised until last year that she was so involved in this.

FaceLikeACrackedScreen · 11/11/2024 20:48

I remember reading something ages ago about her grandfather assaulting her pregnant grandmother. Ultimately they divorced.

ChangingChangingMe · 11/11/2024 20:48

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 11/11/2024 20:36

Women of a certain age and certain status have often been told to shut up and put up. She is saying that this can happen to anyone.

Yes, absolutely. I’ve been talking to my mum recently and she’s only really now realising how many of her peers (in their 70s) are in abusive or controlling relationships. It’s just not something she was ever taught to see. I hope that Camilla might be able to shine a light where others of her generation will see and get support.

Greywool · 11/11/2024 20:46

I remember her interview with Emma Barnett on Woman’s Hour a couple of years ago, a lot was on violence against women and girls, and it was an interview that influenced how I think of Camilla (positively), whereas before then I hadn’t taken much notice of her.

KatyaKabanova · 11/11/2024 20:44

@EdithWeston - excellent points, also I agree with you about Sophie. She's had a lot of involvement with this issue, sadly a lot of it has gone under the radar.

EdithWeston · 11/11/2024 20:42

I think she's doing good work on this.

She's been working with charities on this for years, irrespective of whether there is press attention, so it's not as if she's plucked it out of thin air.

It's a great shame that there has been so little attention to her charitable work on this. Ditto that done by the Duchess of Edinburgh against VAWG, FGM and rape as a tool of war.

Createausername1970 · 11/11/2024 20:40

mynameiscalypso · 11/11/2024 20:35

I love Camilla and this is a very worthy cause. She seems to have a natural ability to connect with people.

I very much regarded her as the OW initially and didn't have much time for her. But over the years I have definitely changed my mind about her.

steff13 · 11/11/2024 20:39

SleepingStandingUp · 11/11/2024 20:34

So you're accusing King Charles of Domestic Violence? Is infidelity really considered DV?

I wouldn't have thought so. If it is, wasn't Diana unfaithful as well? I think she cheated on Charles and was involved with married men after Charles.

Reddog1 · 11/11/2024 20:39

I’m not a royalist and I am happy to criticise this grasping, greedy lot at any time, but even I’d stop short at suggesting that Camilla mustn’t talk about DV just because she was Charles’ sidepiece.

The two things aren’t linked.

BIossomtoes · 11/11/2024 20:39

OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

She’s not hosting a documentary. The film is about a year of her life and as a longstanding supporter of abuse charities it’s inevitable that it would include her work with them. The more the issue has a light shone on it the better.