Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

There was a thread on here a few weeks ago where plenty women were arguing that cheating is abuse.

I mean, it's not how I think of cheating, but if the definition is harmful behaviour that impacts another person negatively then I guess? I don't think it's how most people would think of it though.

It depends on whom you believe. Unfortunately for Charles, Diana was a master manipulator and managed to keep her dalliances quiet. Ask Will Carling's ex wife and Oliver Hoare's wife their opinion of Diana.

Whatever anyone's opinion of what happened, Camilla is now Queen and has influence and people listen. Her patronage is extremely valuable in the battle against domestic violence.

The only accounts we have on timing are Charles saying that he struck up with Camilla only after the marriage had irrevocably broken down, which is usually taken to mean after Diana embarked on her first affair (with a bodyguard, beginning in 1985, admitted by Diana).

Charles of course had two main "sidepieces" in the run up to his marriage. There was no inevitability at that point that he would rekindle with one of them a few years later.

The "three of us in that marriage" was (partly) true from 1985 onwards - Charles had an enduring affair with Camilla. But it's not a full picture, as there were 6 others (her lovers) in there too.

Camilla's first marriage of course ended because of her then husband's repeated infidelities (he wasn't one of the inspirations for Rupert Campbell-Black for no reason)

Camilla is doing really great work constantly highlighting domestic abuse.

Not true.

Yes . So are you agreeing that people having affairs is bad?

No it was before that.

Diana said in her book that Charles was still seeing camilla, while Diana was engaged to charles. Before Diana and charles got married

Diana said she wanted to call off the wedding, but everyone told her it was too late.

Well done to Camilla for the work she has done and is doing highlighting domestic violence. Likewise to Sophie for highlighting FGM and the work she does

Diana had many affairs, some with married men!

The lack of emotional intelligence and maturity on MN is really striking of late. Convinced people get sucked into echo chambers.

I'm glad she is doing this. It is important.

Surely if she raises the issue of DA , that is a good thing ?
She has been working behind the scenes for years so I for one am glad that she is highlighting the issues. For too long it was - literally-kept behind closed doors .

Diana shagged anything that moved right from the off.

No human is perfect - all are messy and complicated - saying someone is incapable of doing good because of past behaviour is ridiculous. There are plenty of ways to be a twat.

She never will.

If the king of another country was having an affair, then all of a sudden his first wife died, and he married the woman he was having an affair with.

I don't think the second woman would escape the shadow of the first woman. In any country.

According to google...

Diana started a relationship with Barry Manakee in 1985 and Charles and Camilla restarted their relationship in 1986.

Respect to Camilla. That is an excellent and important use of her position.

The irony being he didnt get with her in the first place because she wasnt worthy, but over time protocols changed and the future king shacking up with the OW was suddenly all good.

It's a shame Camilla can't escape Diana's shadow. I don't think she'd have been a good Queen.

I think she's coming across well. Genuine and caring. Though I have to agree a bit about William and homelessness.

Why did you think that?

No, Charles and camilla did it first

I didn't think he had ever claimed to be an expert. He's put together a group of experts (the major charities, numerous businesses) to run and evaluate six pilot projects. That may or may not be successful, but should at a very minimum give recent evidence on what did/didn't work, so should inform future interventions

Hang on I thought the timeline was that Diana stepped-out on the fidelity first?

Don't be so fucking ridiculous.

Camilla is a bit manky.

I saw her talk the other day, and I thought that she was very rough.