What is it about men ? ( in swimming pools)

In the pool I used to go to there was a chap who went for 2 hrs most days,first hour was lane swimming,2nd hour was mainly ‘public’ swimming but with 2 lanes remaining. Without fail for the 2nd hour he would move to the public swimming part of the pool even though the lanes were often empty or had just a couple of people in and wearing goggles so he could have a good look swim underneath the ladies that were swimming,Because the public swimming part was mostly ladies. He would only swim under ladies. Criss crossing the pool,swimming under us.He would then get out and while showering poolside stick his hands down his budgie smugglers and give himself a wash. I won’t go when he’s there any more

@Superworm24 is right though, your original post said nothing like what you are now saying. Your first post was just vicious body shaming, you are definitely back peddling!

What is the obsession with lanes in the UK anyway. I don't find them fun to swim in when doing laps.

I remember living in Spain and the public pools had a lot more space to swim in, nd less strict lanes

Assuming that the pool doesn't have male and female lanes - why did you mess up your very sensible argument that he should be in a lane with people going roughly his speed, with some irrelevant stuff about men and women? You have no right or need to swim "in peace" or "with other women", you did have a right not to be whizzed into by someone who should have been in a faster lane.

Oh god, don't get me started on lane rage!!

My pool has three lanes - slow, medium, fast. Of course there's a range of speeds in each lane, so everyone needs to pay attention to what's happening around them and show some basic courtesy. There are many women (and a few men) I see regularly who are very good at this: for instance, one woman is at the borderline of slow/medium. She always looks around her at the end of each length, and if someone is gaining on her, she waits and lets them past. I always try to do that too, whichever lane I'm in.

Some people, mostly but not always men, are useless at it, and have no awareness of what's happening around them. A few days ago there was a man in the middle lane who was just a bit slower than me. He was doing very wide kick breastroke which took a lot of space - OK, I suppose it's hard to moderate that, but it's not ideal. Anyway, after quite a few lengths, maybe about 10 or 11, I caught him up. I expected him to stop at the end of the length and let me past but he didn't. OK, maybe he hadn't seen me. I did the next length behind him at his speed because there were too many people to overtake safely midway. I thought he'd stop at the next length, but no. By now I'm getting cross. At the next length I pulled into the side next to him, a partial overtake, so that I could push off from the side first. Instead of letting me, he berated me for not being in the fast lane, and then set off ahead of me again. At that point I went into the fast lane, because I didn't want the unpleasantness of swimming behind him and trying to overtake again. I was too slow for the fast lane, where I had to let a queue of people past me at the end of every length.

It's so unnecessary. Just a bit of awareness of what and who's around you, and some basic courtesy, would make for a much better experience for everyone.

Is it really about gender? Had it been a sporty woman, I'm thinking a Sharron Davies type, headed into you at 50 mph would you have taken the same offence?

This reminds me of several years ago when a woman from the Women's Equality Party was at the Bus Stop arguing that men and women should have separate buses in London...

I got ordered out of a lane by a man the last time I was swimming.

It was the fast lane.

I'm a fast swimmer, but he said I wasn't fast enough.

But how could a woman possibly be as fast as a man? So it is kind of gender discrimination when women get kicked out of the fast lanes.

They should have women only lanes amd men only lanes

My wife comes back from swimming with similar lane rage stories - and 99% of the time it's men who cause the problems. In the wrong lanes, swimming the wrong way etc etc.

And then there's speedos!

I've seen as many irritating females at the pool too tbh. We're only hearing one side here. Many humans just seem to struggle with lanes.
I regularly end up in the sauna for this reason (I’m very slow😅)

Sometimes I think they try to intimidate you in the hope that you will get out so they can have the lane to themselves.

Swimming lanes could definitely be better organised.

I've definitely seen people having a few arguments in the swimming lanes

Casapenguin my da is a para swimmer who swims with para Olympians who are visually impaired or blind (blacked out Google's).

They regularly catch themselves on lane ropes. No one thinks it poor technique - more a lack of vision!

I thought it would have been obvious that I was talking about the creeps. I'd hardly complain about a nice polite older man in a jacuzzi with me, would I.

We live in a world where it's obvious that the older men I'm uncomfortable about are creeps, i would have thought .

I hate men now?

Thats strange seeing as I have a boyfriend.

Why are you so rude? Bad day?

Just leave** that reminds me of the over 50's swim at our local pool.

6 lane pool. 1 lane hired out for club swimmers during school holiday for a training camp session.

5 lanes of open pool. 8 over 50's.

Oh the riot of the over 50's (6 woman and 2 men) at the audacity of having swimmers in a lane who may splash them.

A) they are good swimmers who didn't cause splash and b) they could have gone into space away from the end lane but no - they all wanted to complain the space right next to the lane rope.

They weren't budging either! In fact I think the whole hour they complained not one of them got splashed nor did any of the kids even acknowledge them 😂

But as I've just replied, that's not what your post that i quoted said.

Anyone splashing around a lot is not attention seeking ina good way, it's usually the sign of appalling technique. Hands should be entering water with minimal splash. Kick shouldn't produce a huge amount either because that is wasted energy flinging legs and feet well above the water line. So, if people are doing this, they really aren't much good!

That's not what you said in your post though is it. Big bit of information to leave out, no? You just moaned about old, fat men getting into the jacuzzi and trying to talk to you. If you had said they were creeps then you'd have got a different reaction to your post. So good back peddling. Just admit you hate men and own your gross opinions.

I reckon it is a sex issue - though OP missed a step in her reasoning. Men swim faster than women (physiology) and tend to be very much splashier (sociology). Although some (very few) women can swim fast butterfly, they don't create a small tsunami with every stroke.

The only time I confronted a bloke about doing this, he explained that he didn't want to use the Fast & Splashy lane because the other swimmers there made it uncomfortable ... instead, he'd chosen to make the middle lane uncomfortable to us!

Right lets say you get into a jacuzzi at the gym. An old man gets in with you and tells you thar have good tits and a good arse.

Let's see how comfortable you feel and if you'll stick up for the "poor old men" then.

There's men that go to my gym that are total perverts.

Women have stopped getting into the jacuzzi altogether, for fear of getting stuck with them

I have an alternative experience when swimming but is linked.

I am an average swimmer so go in the medium paced lane.

Fairly often there are incredibly fast women swimming in the medium lane. I've always suspected it's because they might be intimidated by going in the fast lane that may or may not have a male in. I've not experienced any fast males in the medium lanes though.

I totally get the frustration though with swimmers not sticking to their paced lanes! The pool I go to is always busy at any time of the day and usually 3 or 4 sharing a lane. I've only been doing it a year and it's very off putting when someone is wanting to overtake every other length!

Bloody hell the victim blaming. Women like you are the absolute worst. You never think the men do anything wrong. And you blame the women.

Do you not think the men who say sexual things or nasty things in the jacuzzi are wrong ? Do you not think that women should feel comfortable

Why do you think that they created female only gyms?

It's so women can feel safe.

Bloody hell, the misandry. Imagine if this was a man moaning about some old, fat bird getting in with him.

I'd really like to see someone swim at 50mph. Zoom!

This is why I stopped swimming years ago. I'm more middle speed, but often the faster swimmers seemed to think they were entitled to take over the slower lanes if they fancied and go at it top speed. Yet people seem quick to have a go at slower swimmers in faster lanes. Just too overcrowded to get a proper work out. Especially when kids swimming lessons and play sessions are on.

Btw, has anyone else read Nomad by Alan Partridge?? 😅

It's a public place yes.

But the point is there should be more public swimming places that are female only.

Some very perverted men go to our gym/swimming pool and just stare at the women. They make the women uncomfortable.

Having to get in a jacuzzi in our swimsuits when perverted men are in it, (again not ALL men) is not nice.

I actually brought it up to people that work in the gym. I asked them could they have a female only time to use the jacuzzi, like even one hour a week, but they wouldn't do it.

I need to find a female only gym, but I think the nearest one to me is very far away