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What is it about men ? ( in swimming pools)

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Ramblingnamechanger · 11/11/2024 16:34

Another argument in the pool today. Several lanes available to share…one with 2 guys , ours with 2 women and one mixed. The man who arrived later chose ours. Nearly headed into me at 50 mph. I challenged him and suggested he moved into the lane next door with faster male swimmers. He said that he did not want to swim in the lane with the side of the pool. I said my preference was to swim in peace with other women and why was it that my preference was seen as not as important as his . He insisted that he would stay . I told him it was a macho view and we women should have our views and wishes given the same weight. So fed up that again an entitled male pushed it even when challenged.

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Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:36

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:32

No I mean it's strange you think that women don't go to jacuzzi's when there's lots of women who get into my jacuzzi and have a good old natter.

And one that sings badly.

It would be nice if they would be quiet, but I'm capable of switching off from people.

Oh I see you mean it's strange that the women don't talk in the jacuzzi in my gym.

I guess we just respect each other's space. A jacuzzi is quite a vulnerable area to start with, you're in a small space without much clothes on. I would just respect someone's space. And I know people pay a lot to use gyms, so we wouldn't intrude on each other's jacuzzi time

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:36

No, I'm at the pool/sauna/jacuzzi every day for a couple of hours in the afternoon.

I'm amazed you've seen all these things. Maybe it's because I live in a nice area.

LondonQueen · 11/11/2024 20:32

I don't think I could get that worked up about it tbf. The issue is his speed, not his sex. What if it was a faster women in the same lane, would you expect her to move over into the lane with the men? I imagine not.

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:32

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:30

Its not strange at all. It happens in loads of gyms.

In fact the Owner of of one of my local gyms just got charged for sexually assaulting a woman in the gym.

He was the owner of the gym and he also gave physical therapy. He assaulted a woman In the gym by walking in on her while she was changing, and then by groping her vagina and breasts, instead of giving her physical therapy.

He was also found guilty of filming women getting changed In the gym rooms.

That's the calibre of the gyms round my way

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No I mean it's strange you think that women don't go to jacuzzi's when there's lots of women who get into my jacuzzi and have a good old natter.

And one that sings badly.

It would be nice if they would be quiet, but I'm capable of switching off from people.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:32

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:28

It's all very strange, there seem to be men and women bumping along quite nicely at my swimming pool/gym/sauna/jacuzzi.

I don't understand that.

You say it doenst happen at your gym. First of all how could you possibly know that.

Presumably you are only there for a couple of hours a week. Arguments could happen when you're not there

ThatsNotMyTeen · 11/11/2024 20:31

I joined David Lloyd as our council pool turned really crap after Covid and stopped women only session amongst other things.

I am a plodder rather than a lane swimmer but the indoor pool is totally overrun with men. The jacuzzi and steam room too and they spread out and make weird huffing noises. I don’t know why there are always so fucking many of them all the time.

I now swim in the outdoor pool pretty much all the time; they rarely venture out there and the ones who do are very courteous

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:30

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:26

That's strange, there's quite a few that get in mine and have a good old natter, I know some of their life stories.

There's one that sings badly also.

Its not strange at all. It happens in loads of gyms.

In fact the Owner of of one of my local gyms just got charged for sexually assaulting a woman in the gym.

He was the owner of the gym and he also gave physical therapy. He assaulted a woman In the gym by walking in on her while she was changing, and then by groping her vagina and breasts, instead of giving her physical therapy.

He was also found guilty of filming women getting changed In the gym rooms.

That's the calibre of the gyms round my way

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:28

Edingril · 11/11/2024 20:26

Why does it have to be a male female thing? You made it sexist

It's all very strange, there seem to be men and women bumping along quite nicely at my swimming pool/gym/sauna/jacuzzi.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 11/11/2024 20:28

MartinCrieffsLemon · 11/11/2024 17:30

You want to swim with just women? Find a pool with women only sessions...

YABU to try and make it an argument about sex when if anything it was about speed. And some people don't like having the side next to them, smacking your hand into that hurts more than the rope!

A lot of the women I see at my DL seem to do more nattering at one end or the other, than actual swimming!

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:27

A man crashed into me at speed while in a swimming lane once. That's why I don't get about some of these men either.

They just stick their head underwater and swim the whole lane, like they own the whole lane, they don't check who's in front of them.

Any time I swim in a lane, I stick my head up so often, to make sure their is no one in front of Me to crash into

Edingril · 11/11/2024 20:26

Why does it have to be a male female thing? You made it sexist

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:26

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 18:56

Right lets say you get into a jacuzzi at the gym. An old man gets in with you and tells you thar have good tits and a good arse.

Let's see how comfortable you feel and if you'll stick up for the "poor old men" then.

There's men that go to my gym that are total perverts.

Women have stopped getting into the jacuzzi altogether, for fear of getting stuck with them

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That's strange, there's quite a few that get in mine and have a good old natter, I know some of their life stories.

There's one that sings badly also.

TomatoSandwiches · 11/11/2024 20:25

Men just need to fuck off completely imo.

Thecleanersings · 11/11/2024 20:25

@KrisAkabusi he wasn’t waiting for me to finish. There was literally no one else in the rest of the pool so if he actually wanted to swim there were no restrictions and as it goes the non swim lane length is longer. He was doing it to be a twat.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:25

KrisAkabusi · 11/11/2024 20:22

The OP is complaining about men who swim in the same lane as women, and the man is in the wrong. Now we have a man waiting for a woman to finish using a lane and he's still in the wrong!

Yea he is wrong if he is constantly coming out and glaring at her and intimidating her while she's swimming.

Thecleanersings · 11/11/2024 20:23

Just for clarity the swim lane really only has room for one. It’s a little gym. We don’t have sporty training people. Pool isn’t big enough for that.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 11/11/2024 20:23

TheKneesOfTheBees · 11/11/2024 17:48

Mine is David Lloyd too. Many of not all David Lloyds ban snorkels, I suspect your staff there aren't paying attention!

AFAIK there are no staff supervising at my DL, except at times when children are allowed, i.e. 4-7 pm, when there is a lifeguard. At least that’s what I’ve seen so far. Except for once when I took the Gdcs, I go at adult-only times.

KrisAkabusi · 11/11/2024 20:22

Thecleanersings · 11/11/2024 20:16

Our health club has one swim lane and the rest of the pool. I was in the swim lane today and this guy comes in, eyes me before setting himself up on a lounger right opposite the steps with that look as if to say the big man has come, quit the lane… He could have gone in the rest of the pool but that wasn’t good enough. He got in. Stood for a minute. Got back out and retook his position opposite the swim lane on his lounger. So, I just added 10 lengths to my swim. He then kept disappearing into the jacuzzi, steam room etc before appearing again 4 mins later each time before standing looking pissed. Added 40 lengths to my swim with his swaggering nonsense in the end. I left just as the old ladies were doing their class taking up the whole of the shallow end. Oh dear.

The OP is complaining about men who swim in the same lane as women, and the man is in the wrong. Now we have a man waiting for a woman to finish using a lane and he's still in the wrong!

TheTidyBear · 11/11/2024 20:20

Ramblingnamechanger · 11/11/2024 17:38

No speed lanes in the pool. Have suggested this. Also suggested women only sessions. Or older swimmer sessions.. what I objected to was the way he chose a lane with two slower female swimmers over one with two men in, which he said were the same. But his preference held sway which seems the default. I absolutely have no problem with sharing the lanes with similar swimmers. But this was male entitlement.

Honestly, this really annoys me about entitled people who go to the leisure centre or swimming and don't realise they're going somewhere where people work and train hard for a sport. We have no idea why he chose that lane, it could be for many reasons, but it's not YOUR lane.

If you want something more comfortable where you can be within your own space take up yoga instead of demanding the swimming pool be some kind of private members only club for you.

Thecleanersings · 11/11/2024 20:16

Our health club has one swim lane and the rest of the pool. I was in the swim lane today and this guy comes in, eyes me before setting himself up on a lounger right opposite the steps with that look as if to say the big man has come, quit the lane… He could have gone in the rest of the pool but that wasn’t good enough. He got in. Stood for a minute. Got back out and retook his position opposite the swim lane on his lounger. So, I just added 10 lengths to my swim. He then kept disappearing into the jacuzzi, steam room etc before appearing again 4 mins later each time before standing looking pissed. Added 40 lengths to my swim with his swaggering nonsense in the end. I left just as the old ladies were doing their class taking up the whole of the shallow end. Oh dear.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:15

Ramblingnamechanger · 11/11/2024 20:09

No…she would have checked first and we all would have adjusted accordingly. And yes, I think there should be separate public transport facilities so that women can travel safely if they wish. Indian metro trains are fantastic!

I agree. I've been in female only spaces abroad, and they were amazing.

I don't know why they don't have more of them here. Especially considering all of the crime against women

MammaGisAF · 11/11/2024 20:15

I thought you were going to say men trying to chat you up at the pool. That’s why I stopped swimming, got fed up with them trying to chat to me when I was just there to swim (no I don’t want to go for a drink after)… but yes, men who overtake, speed into you and spend too long in the shower were the reason why I stopped going. YANBU.

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:10

cookiebee · 11/11/2024 19:59

@Superworm24 is right though, your original post said nothing like what you are now saying. Your first post was just vicious body shaming, you are definitely back peddling!

Ah will you ever grow up.

Does anyone on mumsnet - say every single thing about a scenario , in their first post. No they don't.

Then if they add a single detail later, in a further post, they're shouted at, amd some posters say

"You didn't say that in your first post!".

I've seen it happen to so many posters on here.

Or someone says s poster is "dripfeeding or backpeddling"

No one says every single thing in their first post!

I don't know what the obsession is with posters having to say every single thing in their first post.

When you have a conversation in real life, do you say every single thing, in your first comment?

Ramblingnamechanger · 11/11/2024 20:09

Charlize43 · 11/11/2024 19:39

Is it really about gender? Had it been a sporty woman, I'm thinking a Sharron Davies type, headed into you at 50 mph would you have taken the same offence?

This reminds me of several years ago when a woman from the Women's Equality Party was at the Bus Stop arguing that men and women should have separate buses in London...

No…she would have checked first and we all would have adjusted accordingly. And yes, I think there should be separate public transport facilities so that women can travel safely if they wish. Indian metro trains are fantastic!

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Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 11/11/2024 20:07

I have only ever had men crash into me in the pool like this - never another woman. It is machismo and its bullshit.