What is it about men ? ( in swimming pools)

I'm sorry but women can and do overpower other women

They can also touch other women inappropriately

They can also be catty and cruel and really mess up someone's mental health to the point they want to take their own life

Woman CAN and in my case HAVE overpowered me and nearly taken my life. Just like men have...

Well then go there, honestly I would have more concern about country who segregates women. I have never seen them treat women well.

I hate anyone tapping my feet. Would never dream of doing that - I just slow down or circle across the lane

Men are more physically dangerous though.

We know women can't overpower us physcially, that's why I like some female only spaces.

I like the countries that have separate female and male train carriages.

The last time I was on a train, a man stuck his hand up my skirt

Jesus this makes me glad I no longer have to try to live by arbitrary standards in the uk regarding swim and gym etiquette!
Its speed that matters, nothing else, and you being a female and him male is a moot point.
on the topic of saunas and jacuzzis at the gym, I go every single morning and it’s where I’ve made my (mixed male and female) friends since moving abroad. We just chat about life, work, books, etc and it’s became friendships that lead to nights out and coffees. Shock horror I am married and so are they. So yes sometimes people do just chat in the sauna, because what else are you gonna do (although the one time someone said something inappropriate near me in the sauna, it was a woman, and a mad I’ve not seen since stood up for me)

Men can be dangerous, twats, idiots… but so can woman.

I've done lots of partnered dancing classes. It's been fine. The men were very respectful.

The pool I now swim in gives times for lengths to let you know what speed the lane is for, e.g. fast is 1 min - 1 min 15 for 50m (it's a 50m pool). I find that much more helpful than fast/medium/slow as all of those are open to interpretation. Of course, if there aren't so many people there, it gets mixed up a bit.

That's not to say I haven't had a few incidents there (the most recent involving a woman not a man) - but so many fewer than when I used to be in a pool with fast/medium/slow only (and often not even that).

Well your experience of the gym is a completely different experience from mine. I'd chuck my membership in if it was anything like yours.

Also don't every try partnered dancing, salsa, bachata, etc.

A lot of the women I see at my DL seem to do more nattering at one end or the other, than actual swimming!

The chief natterers at the gym I used to go to (before getting too pissed off with the lanes situation) were male. There was a little group of three middle-aged men who apparently just went to sit in the water and natter, not swim at all. It was quite sweet really except they could have sat in the jacuzzi or sauna and not in the fecking lane.

Wow I'd hate that. So they touch your feet?

I’m led to believe that if a faster swimmer catches a slower swimmer in the same lane they tap their feet which is code to give way when they reach the end of the pool. Seems to work well where I swim. I’m always getting my feet tapped and that’s in the slow lane!

In a public swimming pool, personally I would hate the lanes to be segregated by sex. It makes no sense to me. There are many women who swim faster than men and I have seen as many women as men behave poorly / aggressively / thoughtlessly. Similarly as many men as women behave impeccably.

To me, swim etiquette is to get into the lane than best reflects your actual pace compared to the people actually in that lane at the same time. Go the correct direction. If slower, be mindful of your turns to let the faster swimmer/s go past. If you are regularly holding people up, go down a lane. If you are in a slow lane, do not feel harassed, it is for faster folk to go up a lane, but do pause at each end in case there is someone marginally faster who would appreciate going at a slightly faster pace.

I go a lot. 4 times a week usually.

Most people go to the gym a lot.

They buy a gym membership and they go every week to get the worth out of the membership

No

How frequently do you go to the gym? It seems like you're just regurgitating something you read on social media.

We are talking about two different things. I'm talking about talking to strangers in the gym

When you get in a jacuzzi in the gym alone, and another female gets in (that you don't know and have never met before) ,

Do you talk to her

I don't talk to people no

This isn't making sense because you're not a regular jazuzzi user, obviously.

Well that doesn't happen.

What does happen is two female friends having a long chat about anything and everything. Frequently. Same with the men. Some people talk in the jacuzzi some people don't, it's nothing to do with the sex of the person.

I did! So you're talking to people that you know at the gym then?

I said that when me and women (that I don't know!) get in the jacuzzi , we don't talk to each other. You said thats trange.

So you're not making sense.

Do you talk to people you know at the gym . Or are you talkng to strangers

I did!

No, I've been going to my leisure centre daily for years, and no, it doesn't seem to be the shitty dramatic picture you're painting.

Who said the people talking to each other were strangers?

People who go to the gym don't want to be talked to by strangers usually. That's gym etiquette.

What does respecting someone's space have to do with people talking to each other?

I live in a nice area too.

Unless you're going to a gym in an extremely expensive country golf club where you all know each other -

yes then that might affect the atmosphere, the ladies would probably chat more, and the men wouldn't be nasty to each other's wives if they know them