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What is it about men ? ( in swimming pools)

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Ramblingnamechanger · 11/11/2024 16:34

Another argument in the pool today. Several lanes available to share…one with 2 guys , ours with 2 women and one mixed. The man who arrived later chose ours. Nearly headed into me at 50 mph. I challenged him and suggested he moved into the lane next door with faster male swimmers. He said that he did not want to swim in the lane with the side of the pool. I said my preference was to swim in peace with other women and why was it that my preference was seen as not as important as his . He insisted that he would stay . I told him it was a macho view and we women should have our views and wishes given the same weight. So fed up that again an entitled male pushed it even when challenged.

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FoxLoxInSox · 29/11/2024 22:51

@MartinCrieffsLemon I literally don’t know what your problem is with me or why you’ve been so prickly. Why are you calling me a swimming snob, putting passive aggressive quote marks round my words (to mock me and for some reason take the piss out of me sharing that I can’t see my kit without my goggles)? You seem to have taken my post wrongly, ignored my attempt to iron it out, and have come back fighting even harder, having even more of a go. You don’t know me, and I’m not in any way a swimming snob! Quite the opposite. I’ve never had a lesson, and felt very conscious of my inability to swim properly so I’ve taught myself aged 43, worked really hard at it, and feel proud of myself for learning something new despite poor self-belief and embarrassment, and my age. So no, I’m not a swimming snob. Your impression of me is unfair and frankly quite hurtful & aggressive.

Whatever. Crack-on.

CoffeeGood · 18/11/2024 18:46

Ramblingnamechanger · 18/11/2024 15:08

What he did wrong was to automatically assume that his right to have his preference met took precedence over mine to have my preference met.

And what you did wrong was to automatically assume that your right to have your preference met took precedence over his right to have his preference met!

Or because you are a woman, the man is automatically in the wrong? You say he "nearly headed into you", so he didn't actually crash into you. So actually, the real story would seem to be that a man decided to swim faster than you in the same lane as you and you didn't like it. If there are no lane rules as to speed or sex then he has the right to choose his preference of lane for whatever reason.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 18/11/2024 15:44

FoxLoxInSox · 17/11/2024 17:24

I think you misconstrued my post. I was trying to share the wonder I felt when someone told me about prescription goggles. It was a game-changer. I paid around £20 from decathlon and they’ve lasted me years. I’m verrrrrry short-sighted but the -6 ones are enough to off-set the blindness and have really helped me feel more confident in where I am.

I don’t quite understand the snidey inverted commas on ‘equipment’ or being told it’s “not any of my business”.

Probs a good thing we don’t have to share a lane. I tend to be really friendly with fellow swimmers 😊

You made what seemed like a snide comment about prescription googles. It's wasn't "have you considered prescription googles? Decathlon do some good, cheap ones." It was quite a blunt comment instead.

And it is none of your business why I don't wear them. I've tried them. They don't work for me and to get ones that do is expensive for just causal swimming.

There are "" around equipment because it was a quote. And I don't have any equipment or fins because not everyone does!

You're coming off as a swimming snob here not me tbh.

And you've no idea how I am with other people. Frankly you seem rude.

sel2223 · 18/11/2024 15:24

Ramblingnamechanger · 18/11/2024 15:08

What he did wrong was to automatically assume that his right to have his preference met took precedence over mine to have my preference met.

Didn't you do the same in reverse?
Automatically assume that your right to have your preference met took precedence over his to have his preference met?

With no rules regarding lanes designated by sex or speed, at a public baths, I still cannot see what anyone has done wrong here?

Ramblingnamechanger · 18/11/2024 15:08

sel2223 · 16/11/2024 07:50

'What is it with men in swimming pools?'

Well that's a bit of a generalisation there, isn't it? You are talking about one particular man who wanted to swim in the same lane you were in.

No designated lane for speed or sex and it's a public pool open to all?

I can't really see what he did wrong?

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What he did wrong was to automatically assume that his right to have his preference met took precedence over mine to have my preference met.

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FoxLoxInSox · 17/11/2024 17:24

MartinCrieffsLemon · 11/11/2024 18:41

Because they are bloody expensive.... and they only slightly help because they don't suit my prescription. It's not really any of your business

I wear them to the pool side, leave glasses with towel, don't have "equipment" with me and have to try and judge other people around me as best as I can.

I think you misconstrued my post. I was trying to share the wonder I felt when someone told me about prescription goggles. It was a game-changer. I paid around £20 from decathlon and they’ve lasted me years. I’m verrrrrry short-sighted but the -6 ones are enough to off-set the blindness and have really helped me feel more confident in where I am.

I don’t quite understand the snidey inverted commas on ‘equipment’ or being told it’s “not any of my business”.

Probs a good thing we don’t have to share a lane. I tend to be really friendly with fellow swimmers 😊

sel2223 · 16/11/2024 07:50

'What is it with men in swimming pools?'

Well that's a bit of a generalisation there, isn't it? You are talking about one particular man who wanted to swim in the same lane you were in.

No designated lane for speed or sex and it's a public pool open to all?

I can't really see what he did wrong?

DieStrassensindimmernass · 16/11/2024 07:43

BIWI · 16/11/2024 00:52

Nope. At our pool the fast lane is the one by the wall.

They keep changing it at my local pool. 🫣

DieStrassensindimmernass · 16/11/2024 07:42

CallmePaul · 15/11/2024 22:57

Just in from late swim as it happens, not many want to swim at 10pm pm a Friday, suits me perfectly! 3 of us tonight! lane to myself.

Pool local to me closes at 7.30, and is only open some nights. In fact the awful opening hours were another reason I cancelled membership. You're lucky to have such late opening.

BIWI · 16/11/2024 00:52

CosyLemur · 15/11/2024 22:48

The further away from the pool wall the faster the lane, therefore if you wanted a leisurely swim you should swim in the lane closest to the wall regardless of the sex of the other swimmers so yes YABU

Nope. At our pool the fast lane is the one by the wall.

Swiftie1878 · 15/11/2024 23:48

Wow! You sound a little crazy and agenda-driven.
Live and let live.

CallmePaul · 15/11/2024 22:57

Just in from late swim as it happens, not many want to swim at 10pm pm a Friday, suits me perfectly! 3 of us tonight! lane to myself.

CosyLemur · 15/11/2024 22:48

The further away from the pool wall the faster the lane, therefore if you wanted a leisurely swim you should swim in the lane closest to the wall regardless of the sex of the other swimmers so yes YABU

Noglitterallowed · 15/11/2024 22:12

Reading your replies is madness. You made an issue out of this and how can you possibly know a woman would have checked first. You’re the issue

JillMW · 15/11/2024 21:49

I swim daily at least a couple of miles. There are always some people complaining about others. Most of us swim happily and avoid collisions. The fact you say he nearly sped into you at fifty mph means he did not hit you and you are prone to exaggerate

Eggsandavocado · 15/11/2024 21:28

It’s the reason I only swim in lakes now, loads of space and everyone is respectful … no feet in the face or being swam at !

MinnieMountain · 15/11/2024 12:45

It was actually the men getting in the way chatting at the end of the lane today. It’s difficult to push off when there’s 3 of them.

On the plus side, we (3 men and 2 women) were all respectful about overtaking.

TheTidyBear · 14/11/2024 17:55

Sylviacrystal · 11/11/2024 20:36

Oh I see you mean it's strange that the women don't talk in the jacuzzi in my gym.

I guess we just respect each other's space. A jacuzzi is quite a vulnerable area to start with, you're in a small space without much clothes on. I would just respect someone's space. And I know people pay a lot to use gyms, so we wouldn't intrude on each other's jacuzzi time

A man and a woman struck up a conversation in the jacuzzi while I was there today about jacuzzi's

Shocking stuff...

Ramblingnamechanger · 14/11/2024 17:02

Today I and my partner shared a lane with a woman. No issues, we swam around each other when needed. Re goggles and snorkels, at 71 and 74 we both use them to swim without back problems and to breathe steadily, more like meditation. Which is why we don’t like butterflies or splashy entitled males getting their preferences.

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morningtoncrescent62 · 13/11/2024 16:16

CrowleyKitten · 13/11/2024 00:07

I've not looked, but I would expect they're really expensive. prescription sunglasses are bad enough. (unless you go to one of the cheap online sites, but they're a more recent thing)

I wear prescription goggles. I get mine from a company called Prescription Goggles (presumably that makes them easily found) and they're excellent. They start at below £20. They don't fully correct my eyesight as I'm extremely short-sighted: they go up to -8, and you can get different strengths for each eye. I'm more short-sighted than that, plus astigmatism, but -8 lenses are a great help and mean I can see where I'm going. I asked at the opticians a few years ago about goggles in my actual prescription, which at the time were going to be £60, no doubt much more now.

I wear Gator goggles: they're mid-price-range and very comfortable, but there's lots of other choices available.

www.prescription-swimming-goggles.co.uk/products/gator-swimming-goggles-including-prescription-lenses?_pos=1&_fid=1d64c68bb&_ss=c

BIWI · 13/11/2024 11:30

I’m guessing he was a serious swimmer just minding his own business and doing a proper training session
rather than some who’s gone for a splash round and to watch and criticise people

Was this a bit of a dig at me @rwalker? Hmm

It was an observation I was making, as well as asking a question. I don't go 'for a splash round' nor do I 'watch and criticise'. I get on with my (probably pretty slow) 30 minutes of mixed style swimming. I can still see perfectly well what others are doing when I'm doing so.

CollisionCourse · 13/11/2024 10:57

I haven't read the whole thread , but this jumped out at me;

"It's not a sex issue"
"Of course it is, men swim faster than women"

Not when I'm in the pool 😆 I won't be troubling the Olympics or even top club swimmers any time soon, but as casual swimmers I'm faster than all but a few of the men, so I think your assumption is a bit out. Well, now I've got that off my ego...!

This guy sounds annoying for sure and sounds like he should move up a lane. Just as annoying are the ones in the fast lane who shouldn't be there. I wish that more people just took a sensible and considerate approach all round!

eastegg · 13/11/2024 10:44

PuddingAunt · 11/11/2024 17:45

I share the dislike of swimming fast next to the wall - it's like being in a narrower lane.
Fast lane in the middle and slow lane at the wall is ideal.
Not something individual swimmers can negotiate among themselves.

Yes they should make the end lane wider because of the wall but they don’t seem to consider that. I do breaststroke, reasonably fast, but whether fast or slow you need quite a lot of width for BS, much more than for crawl, and the wall is a real problem.

Pliudev · 13/11/2024 07:43

Comedycook · 11/11/2024 16:36

How are the lanes divided....? By speed or sex? If by speed, then he should have been in the lane that corresponded with his swimming speed. The fact you want to swim with other women is irrelevant unless it's a single sex lane or session

This. I can’t see what difference sex makes, But in my experience, it is men who make the biggest splash and end up red faced and breathless at the end of each length. They don’t seem to realise that economy of movement is far more successful and instead, wage war on the water. Fast swimmers, male or female, should be in the fast lane, so we can all enjoy our session.

Glittertwins · 13/11/2024 05:47

Necks shouldn't be rotated though, breathing is done when the body rotates through the water as the water is caught . The head should not move independently