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Wrinkleyoldbag · 11/11/2024 13:03

I’m nearly 40 and my face in the last year seems to have crumpled like a crisp packet!!
The wrinkles and lines across my forehead are now extensive and don’t disappear when my face is expressionless!
I have a needle phobia so Botox just isn’t an option for me!
Ive tried expensive brands (La Roche posay, Estau Lauder, Elemis) and cheaper (the ordinary, boots own, etc) with no real change.
I’ve used retinol and mandelic acid, which helps with skin tone and glow, but no change to wrinkles!!
I use spf everyday, but I think it might be too late as the damage is done!
I’ve looked at LED masks but I don’t think it the science behind really stacks up for at home use.
Is there anything I can try/use to make a difference, or am I destined to keep this crumpled face?? TIA.

OP posts:
sunflowersngunpowdr · 11/11/2024 16:19

TammyOne · 11/11/2024 15:54

Lots of sex with a much younger man. Excellent for the skin.

👆🏽👏🏽

Arraminta · 11/11/2024 16:18

Mrsredlipstick · 11/11/2024 16:10

I've worked in beauty for over forty years. No botox.
Spf, a good exfoliater and eat oily fish.

I would also recommend a good strong lipstick with a lip pencil. Most people I know who look younger have good teeth. A pretty lipstick is a youth bringer.
I'm one of the oldest people still working in my industry. I've had no tweakments.
I also don't drink anymore. Booze will put ten years on you.

I would love to wear a strong lipstick but always, always end up feeling like a Pantomime Dame. I look like the lipstick is wearing me rather than vice versa.

My colouring is 'Soft Summer's apparently with low contrast between hair, complexion and eye colour. So any strong lip colour looks too vivid. What would you recommend, please?

UpOnTheHousetop · 11/11/2024 16:15

I have noticed a significant improvement in my skin since starting to eat lots more fibre, healthy fats, fruits and vegetables. Whilst also cutting out caffeine and alcohol.
I eat nuts and seeds everyday as well as around 10 fruits and veggies and wholegrains most of the time.
I'm vegan and also enjoy these foods so that helps a lot!

Never tried any expensive creams etc so can't comment on those.

I did get rid of those two lines in-between the eye brows by having a regular yoga practice as the breathing exercises help me to relax my face.

If only I could get some decent sleep I'd probably look 10 years younger! 😂

Arraminta · 11/11/2024 16:11

There are absolutely no potions or lotions that can mimic Botox. And trust me, I've tried them all. I pay £600 to have Botox twice a year but use a fully qualified doctor with 15 years experience of aesthetic injections.

I cannot believe the risks some women happily take with their 'Oh, it only costs me £75 for Botox with Jade-Mae at The Beauty Rooms'. And, yes they always look like they've had budget Botox because their faces resemble an Easter Island statue. There's no fucking way I'd let a beautician (who likely never even got GCSE Biology) anywhere near my face with Botox.

I'm 54 and even with Botox I still look like I'm in my 50s and I'm perfectly content with that. But good Botox makes me look fully rested, even when I'm not. And it actually saves me money because I was spending far more a year on stupidly priced creams and luxe facials.

Mrsredlipstick · 11/11/2024 16:10

I've worked in beauty for over forty years. No botox.
Spf, a good exfoliater and eat oily fish.

I would also recommend a good strong lipstick with a lip pencil. Most people I know who look younger have good teeth. A pretty lipstick is a youth bringer.
I'm one of the oldest people still working in my industry. I've had no tweakments.
I also don't drink anymore. Booze will put ten years on you.

5128gap · 11/11/2024 16:09

CheezePleeze · 11/11/2024 16:01

That sounds good going forward (although it'd give me blackheads) but it's not going to do anything for the OP's heavy wrinkles, is it?

Well I can only speak for myself but I do find a smear of coconut oil fills in my crows feet a little. It's cheap, it's natural, it's harmless, so one of the least controversial ideas on here I'd have thought. But like all the other suggestions OP can try or not as she sees fit.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 11/11/2024 16:05

Just get the surgery. Don't bother with fillers and Botox. Have a good surgeon to stitch it all back in to place and then be happy.

CheezePleeze · 11/11/2024 16:01

5128gap · 11/11/2024 15:59

Her face will be well moisturised and hydrated ao will look better. If she wants to she can use a tiny amount of coconut oil (dryer than vaseline) to smooth them again, under foundation if she likes or without. It acts like a thick primer, but tonnes cheaper.

That sounds good going forward (although it'd give me blackheads) but it's not going to do anything for the OP's heavy wrinkles, is it?

Gummybear23 · 11/11/2024 16:01

A SMILE
AND KINDNESS
WILL BRING WARMTH AND LOVE.

Cheaper than botox.

BumbleUnicorn · 11/11/2024 16:00

Bovine Collagen from Hunter & Gather has transformed the texture of my skin: prz.io/BGzr0YzIl

5128gap · 11/11/2024 15:59

CheezePleeze · 11/11/2024 15:56

OP, get to work with a large pot of real Vaseline at night, this fills in the lines and wrinkles

And what happens when she washes it off the next day?

Her face will be well moisturised and hydrated ao will look better. If she wants to she can use a tiny amount of coconut oil (dryer than vaseline) to smooth them again, under foundation if she likes or without. It acts like a thick primer, but tonnes cheaper.

CheezePleeze · 11/11/2024 15:56

VacuumPacked · 11/11/2024 15:52

OP, get to work with a large pot of real Vaseline at night, this fills in the lines and wrinkles, sleep on your back with a rolled pillow beneath your neck if possible,
drink water, eat raw carrots and oranges, take a multivitamin, keep us posted !

OP, get to work with a large pot of real Vaseline at night, this fills in the lines and wrinkles

And what happens when she washes it off the next day?

VacuumPacked · 11/11/2024 15:55

TammyOne · 11/11/2024 15:54

Lots of sex with a much younger man. Excellent for the skin.

think you missed out an essential instruction there, Tammy !

TammyOne · 11/11/2024 15:54

Also plenty of oily fish 😊

TammyOne · 11/11/2024 15:54

Lots of sex with a much younger man. Excellent for the skin.

VacuumPacked · 11/11/2024 15:52

OP, get to work with a large pot of real Vaseline at night, this fills in the lines and wrinkles, sleep on your back with a rolled pillow beneath your neck if possible,
drink water, eat raw carrots and oranges, take a multivitamin, keep us posted !

Misorchid · 11/11/2024 15:43

All this disparaging of Botox🙄. If it’s subtle, and I mean subtle, it’s fantastic. Who isn’t happy with the removal of angry 11s between the eyebrows etc. No need for filler.
I’m recovering from abdominal surgery and overdue my Botox shot, can’t wait.

Retinol, expensive creams are useless, but RetinA is more like it.

Todaywasbetter · 11/11/2024 15:40

At 42 your face is glowing. Moisturiser and smiling works wonders.

SilkyWoo · 11/11/2024 15:38

Lasers and peels. Find a really good Dermatologist and tell them off the bat you do not want any injectable.

They may offer at first stronger creams etc. Look up picotoning as well.

Whatever you do, only go to a real dermatologist.

Lilith666 · 11/11/2024 15:36

Look at this, results are amazing. I will be offering it as a treatment early next year. https://www.zonefacelift.com/one-to-one-session

Ziggie's Clinic — Zone Face Lift

https://www.zonefacelift.com/one-to-one-session

KimberleyClark · 11/11/2024 15:31

Secondclassstamps · 11/11/2024 15:22

I’m going to keep with what I’ve been doing for years. I remove my glasses before I look in the mirror. I’ve just turned 70 and I don’t see a single wrinkle in my face or neck. Occasionally when I’m outdoors I get a glimpse of some wrinkly old bat looking at me. They are usually the other side of a shop window and I just tell them to bugger off 😊

🤣🤣🤣

This is one reason I don’t wear contacts. So I don’t see how old I really look. Glasses hide a multiple of sins round the eyes.

KimberleyClark · 11/11/2024 15:29

Growing old gracefully?

Secondclassstamps · 11/11/2024 15:22

I’m going to keep with what I’ve been doing for years. I remove my glasses before I look in the mirror. I’ve just turned 70 and I don’t see a single wrinkle in my face or neck. Occasionally when I’m outdoors I get a glimpse of some wrinkly old bat looking at me. They are usually the other side of a shop window and I just tell them to bugger off 😊

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 11/11/2024 15:22

Look at your mother. So much of ageing is genetic - a lot of people are congratulating themselves on their skin care regime which has stopped them ageing when it's just their natural genetic make up.

I've got a face that only an elderly boxing glove could love, but at 64 I've come to terms with it. Smiling a lot helps.

Pelagi · 11/11/2024 15:16

Sleep. And a fringe.

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