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AIBU to think our grandchildren will miss out on having grandparents?

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villagecrafts · 11/11/2024 12:10

With so many children being born to older mothers, and fathers often older than them, it's normal these days to have a young family in your 40s.

I am an older Grandma because my own children didn't have children till their 40s. My grandchildren are all under 4, so by the time they settle down and have children their parents (my children) are likely to be in their eighties, or dead. Their grandchildren will be too young to remember them, and as grandparents may well be too old to take an active role in their grandchildren's lives.

At a conservative estimate a mother age 40 now, whose child eventually has a baby at age 38 = grandparents age 78 when their grandchild is born, and age 83 when they are five, which just might be old enough for the child to have a vague memory of grandparent, but not a childhood filled with happy memories of fun times with grandparents, like an extended family.

I'm really talking about our adult children, and feel sad they won't have the wonderful relationships with their grandchildren that bring so much joy to us all.

AIBU to think all three generations will miss out on this special relationship, not to mention the help with childcare?

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unmemorableusername · 12/11/2024 03:00

This will be an issue in the future.

Adults won't have grandparents.

It has lots of unintended consequences

Wowwellokthen · 11/11/2024 21:35

I'm in my late 40s and never had any grandparents as all died before I was born. I guess I don't miss it as I never had it.....never really thought about it to be honest. My parents were both the youngest of their generation and I am the youngest best of mine...my grandparents were born in 1890-1900! Crazy!

villagecrafts · 11/11/2024 20:55

CocoDC · 11/11/2024 20:24

It’s very likely that even if your kids are 40 they will be around, healthy and active until their 80s now. Wealthy people always live longer, happier healthier lives.

As there is nothing in my post to suggest wealth, I don't understand your reasoning. So allow me to continue your de-rail from the subject of the thread for a minute...

In my case it is actually the other way round than you suggest. The dysfunctional family I was born into was what is often regarded as 'wealthy'.

There was no 'wealth' left by the time I was a teenager taken into care, and due to my (expensive) education being suddenly stopped a year before I was due to sit my O levels, absolutely no start of any kind to adult life, not even an O level.

And my late DH grew up in a council estate, leaving school at 15 without taking any exams. He went straight into a factory to do an (about to become obsolete) metalwork apprenticeship. That might have been what caused his early death, but can't be proven.

I still don't have any O levels, but with hard work and determination, putting the needs of our family first, we did OK.

All this has nothing to do with grandparenting but I didn't like the assumption that the joy I feel spending time with my grandchildren has anything to do with 'wealth'.

I feel rich, yes, but not in the way that was inferred.

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unconditionalpurelove · 11/11/2024 20:48

I agree too. I am in my 40s but I lost my parents (they weren't old). I had my children in my 30s but I am mindful of this especially after losing my own parents so young.

BeckyBloom · 11/11/2024 20:27

I had my girls at 33 and 38. I was the fifth child of older parents who were already dead. However my daughters both have newborns and many of their friends have had babies a couple of years after uni so there is always that circumstance too.

CocoDC · 11/11/2024 20:24

villagecrafts · 11/11/2024 17:01

So many thoughtful and interesting perspectives - thank you.

I am not fretting. I feel extremely blessed now, while recognising that not all grandparents, (if they even exist) are remotely interested in their grandchildren, or live too far away to really know them or offer support even if they wanted to.

My own grandparents were rarely to be seen - one lot the other side of the world, so strangers, the other I do have fond memories of, because although I rarely saw them the few times I visited (less than a hand's count) their home life seemed comfortingly normal compared to my own home life.

I come from a fractured family who had zero support, mental health problems, ostracization, alcoholism, suicides and early deaths. So when I was younger I was far from blessed, and for all my adult life have been the only one left with any memory of those traumatic times.

I was lucky that I fell in love early on with a wonderful man but, while I do feel blessed, I am also recently widowed, and the only grandparent alive.

Now, while a sadness will always remain that my beloved DH is not here to share this special time, I think my history of loss and deprivation (which goes right back to my early childhood) is why I cherish what I have now.

I definitely don't think anyone should have children with the wrong person just so they have them young - or for any other reason.

My own children didn't meet the right partners till relatively late, but because I was a young mother myself I am still young and active enough to offer childcare (how anyone can afford full-time nursery fees is beyond me).

It should have been me and DH doing this together, and on my own it is hard work but incredibly rewarding.

It’s very likely that even if your kids are 40 they will be around, healthy and active until their 80s now. Wealthy people always live longer, happier healthier lives.

coffeesaveslives · 11/11/2024 20:21

My grandparents were all in their late seventies/early eighties when I was born and I still had them all until I was mid-teens.

That said, they all lived in a different country and we didn't really have much of a relationship.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 11/11/2024 20:19

Well that’s because young people don’t feel capable of being parents due to their housing and financial situation. Couples are going to continue to put off having families until they have fiscal security and housing is certainly not getting cheaper anytime soon.

MulderitsmeX · 11/11/2024 20:17

People are more mobile nowadays. My DPs arr young enough to be actively involved but i live 100 miles from them.

yutulin · 11/11/2024 20:15

However you want to colour it there are pros and cons to having children at different stages of your life, and one of the pros of having children younger is having more time with grandparents and also not being sandwiched between young children and elderly parents both requiring care. Talking generally of course, doesn't always work like that of course. Not saying it's a reason to have children younger, but some MNers are so hell bent on convincing others (themselves?) that their age was the perfect age that all rational thinking is lost. Pros and cons.

OMGsamesame · 11/11/2024 20:02

What do you want people to do differently?

I didn't get together with the father of my child til I was 38. We conceived after an appropriate time getting to know each other, and the first pregnancy to stick meant I became a mother in my early 40s.

My alternatives were to not have children at all, or try solo earlier in my life, or try to get knocked up on a one night stand or trick an unwilling boyfriend.

Yes im sad that i wont have more children and my parents are 15 years older than they might have been as grandparents. What should I have done differently?

PeloMom · 11/11/2024 19:50

My mother was a very young parent (20). I’d say too immature for kids and I had very unsettled childhood due to lack of money etc. . I’d trade having mature well settled parents for grandparents any day!

Crossingabsolutelyeverything · 11/11/2024 19:47

This is something I think about a lot, having had my first child at 39. I hope I’m in good enough health to be in any future grandchildren’s lives. Not least to let my DS and DD experience what it’s like to have family help. We wouldn’t know what that looked like: DH’s parents are long gone and mine were only partially interested. For show.

IWouldRatherBeOnHoliday · 11/11/2024 19:46

What's your solution OP?

Society isn't set up for people to have children earlier, and I really don't think a possible lack of grandparents should be the reason anyone decides not to have a child at an older age.

Hoplolly · 11/11/2024 19:37

Joycedelight · 11/11/2024 15:23

I'm the opposite end of the scale and the issue with childcare is there as grandparents are still working.
When I was born, my mum was 21, my nan was 38 and my great nan was 55. None were at retirement age so weren't available for childcare.

Which is an excellent point as a lot of people are working longer. I have no plans to retire for maybe another 15-20 years. My own DD will be 40 at that point. If I am working, she doesn't stand much chance of asking me to do childcare.

villagecrafts · 11/11/2024 17:01

So many thoughtful and interesting perspectives - thank you.

I am not fretting. I feel extremely blessed now, while recognising that not all grandparents, (if they even exist) are remotely interested in their grandchildren, or live too far away to really know them or offer support even if they wanted to.

My own grandparents were rarely to be seen - one lot the other side of the world, so strangers, the other I do have fond memories of, because although I rarely saw them the few times I visited (less than a hand's count) their home life seemed comfortingly normal compared to my own home life.

I come from a fractured family who had zero support, mental health problems, ostracization, alcoholism, suicides and early deaths. So when I was younger I was far from blessed, and for all my adult life have been the only one left with any memory of those traumatic times.

I was lucky that I fell in love early on with a wonderful man but, while I do feel blessed, I am also recently widowed, and the only grandparent alive.

Now, while a sadness will always remain that my beloved DH is not here to share this special time, I think my history of loss and deprivation (which goes right back to my early childhood) is why I cherish what I have now.

I definitely don't think anyone should have children with the wrong person just so they have them young - or for any other reason.

My own children didn't meet the right partners till relatively late, but because I was a young mother myself I am still young and active enough to offer childcare (how anyone can afford full-time nursery fees is beyond me).

It should have been me and DH doing this together, and on my own it is hard work but incredibly rewarding.

OP posts:
username3645 · 11/11/2024 17:00

An active/involved grandparent can be a nice addition but it’s not necessary for a happy childhood.

Flossflower · 11/11/2024 16:55

on the Elderly Parents’ topic there seem to be quite a few people in their 70s whose parents in their 90s expect them to run round after them. Surely this is a downside of having young parents. Healthy grandparents who are retired are free to spend more them with their grandchildren.

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 11/11/2024 16:33

I was so lucky to have 4 living grandparents till I was 16

3 living great grandparents till I was about 10

Im 39 this year and still have both my grandfather's.

Unfortunately, my dad isn't that interested in my kids and I an NC with my mother.

DH parents have decided to live in Australia and only see the kids once every 2/3 years.

It saddens me often. I hope to encourage my DC to have children young if they want them and give them lots of help. I would love to be an active involved grandmother someday.

AutumnLeaves24 · 11/11/2024 16:19

I think you're probably right, & it's very sad, but there's nothing to be done about it, so what's the point in fretting over it??

HotCrossBunplease · 11/11/2024 16:14

It’s no big deal. Some people have some things, others do not have them. Every life is different. A kid with engaged grandparents might have an alcoholic father or a Mum with depression. Kid next door may have no granny living but a Mum with perfect mental health. You win some, you lose some. We all know what we know. No point worrying about minor differences.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 11/11/2024 15:47

I wouldn't worry @villagecrafts. From other posts, grandparents are allowed the sum total of fuck all without being accused - angrily - of being interfering and judgmental anyway.

OAPapparently · 11/11/2024 15:47

When I was a child, right up to being almost 20 I had 3 great-grandparents and all 4 grandparents still alive - out of 7, only 2 brought any joy to my life and wanted to play any part in my life. My favourite grandmother was mid 40s when she gave birth to my parent (so an older parent), lived until her 90s and saw me grow up into an adult, on the other hand my PITA grandmother had her DC very young and was only 50 when I was born. She might still be alive, but I don’t really see her.

So from my fortunate experience, I don’t agree. Age guarantees nothing.

Dontcallmescarface · 11/11/2024 15:31

I had no maternal grandparents (grandad died when mum was a child and Nanna died when I was 6 months old). My dad's parents (both in their 50's when I was born), were complete arseholes and we had very little contact with them. TBH I'd rather have had none than those 2 twats.

Joycedelight · 11/11/2024 15:23

I'm the opposite end of the scale and the issue with childcare is there as grandparents are still working.
When I was born, my mum was 21, my nan was 38 and my great nan was 55. None were at retirement age so weren't available for childcare.