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To expect a courtesy email?

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 09:22

So my husband has a spinal condition which means he often falls. This morning he fell up the stairs with two hot cups of coffee. He's OK but clearly shaken as am I. The walls are a disaster but that's not important!
At 6.59 I emailed the school where I have been teaching since September to explain the situation. I informed Head, Deputy Head (both non-teaching) and also my job share. I also called the school office as per policy. It's the first time I've been off at this new school.
It's now 9.19 and I've not even had an acknowledgement of my email or a quick "Are you OK" message.
AIBU to have expected one?
I know with absolute certainty my other previous schools would have checked in.

OP posts:
StaceyLittle · 11/11/2024 13:40

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 12:26

Yes I'm going to leave my disabled husband who I love beyond measure.

I am sure you’re wishing you hadn’t posted on here, some of the replies my god I’m glad I don’t have such unkind people in my real life.

Hope all works out for you and your husband OP

letthemalldoone · 11/11/2024 13:39

Is that you Meghan??

(sorry just couldn't resist!)

Going forward I think your DH needs to be more considerate of you! Yes, it's tough to have to accept not being able to do some things but really, carrying 2 hot mugs of coffee upstairs is just madness!

letthemalldoone · 11/11/2024 13:34

tachetastic · 11/11/2024 13:23

You posted 28 comments on MN during the course of the morning. You weren't exactly spending the time tending to his needs.

Edited

And you took the time to count...!!!

OpalHam · 11/11/2024 13:33

eatreadsleeprepeat · 11/11/2024 13:28

This illustrates how much attitude from employers matters as much as rules. A bit of politeness, replying to an email, and concern, acknowledgment of the situation, would do wonders for the mental health and productivity of employees.
You sound at the end of your tether, obviously new job and child starting school have piled on extra stress but it might need to be a wake up call to your husband that he needs to accept some changes. Is he in any groups relating to his condition? If so that might be a source of both practical suggestions on adaptations and a way for him to connect.

She didn't give them a chance.

She didn't actually speak to anyone that might be able to give some feedback or sympathy as emailed the relevant people then complained at 9.19 am when they were very likely busy with the start of the school day and planning how to cover OPs morning classes.

Then she emailed again to say she was going in.

PrettyParrot2012 · 11/11/2024 13:33

The school sound very much lacking in empathy OP. I hope you are feeling a bit better now, and that they do better at acting like they give a shit about you, their colleague, when you're there in person.

Itsmostlygristlecathy · 11/11/2024 13:31

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 11:32

@KateDelRick I'm on probation period so can't disclose his condition to a large extent. We wouldn't be able to pay the rent if I lost my job. If he falls again I will just have to leave him. Lesson learned.

Why because some randoms on the internet are telling you off? What do they know?!

ilovesooty · 11/11/2024 13:28

There really are some horrible replies on this thread.

eatreadsleeprepeat · 11/11/2024 13:28

This illustrates how much attitude from employers matters as much as rules. A bit of politeness, replying to an email, and concern, acknowledgment of the situation, would do wonders for the mental health and productivity of employees.
You sound at the end of your tether, obviously new job and child starting school have piled on extra stress but it might need to be a wake up call to your husband that he needs to accept some changes. Is he in any groups relating to his condition? If so that might be a source of both practical suggestions on adaptations and a way for him to connect.

JLM1981 · 11/11/2024 13:25

Hi OP. This sounds very stressful sorry to hear it's affecting your MH. I'm also a Teacher. In this situation I would call in late and make sure the family member is ok then leave for work asap.

Sorry you've had some harsh replies. I agree that the school will be busy arranging cover and I wouldn't expect them to check in with you until later unless it was a more serious incident at home.

I hope you can get some rest after work 😃

tachetastic · 11/11/2024 13:23

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 12:20

I'm at school now. I realise the expectations are on teachers to never be off. Their families must come second at all times. Hubby struggling and head aches badly but he knows to call 111 if vision starts to blur etc.

You posted 28 comments on MN during the course of the morning. You weren't exactly spending the time tending to his needs.

Onelifeonly · 11/11/2024 13:18

At my school we have an auto reply for absence emails - though it doesn't always work. As a manager I might respond with a thumbs up if plans have been sent through or write thanks. But not for every absence - we are a big school.

Maray1967 · 11/11/2024 13:16

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 10:48

@BeNavyCrab Thank you. We've considered the kettle but bedroom share with our 4 yo. He just wants to be "normal."

But will he be cleaning up the walls? It isn’t acceptable for him to do things like this because he wants to be ‘normal’ when there is a high chance of an accident. He’s making more work for someone - probably you? At the least, he’ll need to use a flask if he’s insisting on carrying drinks upstairs.

murasaki · 11/11/2024 13:14

Things like a stool in the shower aren't permanent and would be not something you'd need to tell her, for example.

murasaki · 11/11/2024 13:13

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 13:11

@Nanny0gg Not.sure how this works with privately rented? Definitely don't want to p off the landlady!

If it's more adjustments to behaviour rather than the architecture of the house, does she even need to know? I think advice could be really useful. And also bring the issues home to him a bit.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 13:12

@Nanny0gg Not.sure how this works with privately rented? Definitely don't want to p off the landlady!

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 13:11

@Nanny0gg Not.sure how this works with privately rented? Definitely don't want to p off the landlady!

OP posts:
HollaHolla · 11/11/2024 13:10

Plora · 11/11/2024 10:33

I think you have to sit down and have a serious conversation with him, I was late 20 when I got my physical disability so do understand that coming to terms with the disability is hard to come to terms with when it feels before you're time, but I'm presuming you are now the sole earner? He needs to look into adaptations and such like, so you don't end up having to take the days off for stuff that is preventable and keep it for things that arent. So for coffee adaptions, I have a kettle upstairs and downstairs, so I don't have to lug hot drinks up the stairs, I just make them upstairs or vice versa or get the thermos cups with the lids on the top so spills are contained.

Excellent advice here. I also developed a spinal condition in my late 30s; it causes me to trip/fall quite a lot, and I can be a bit unsteady. It's shit, I get it. But, I live alone, and have had to make adaptations to my flat - I use the non-spill thermos mugs, and carry things around in a bag (where possible), so I have both hands free. I fell yesterday, and broke a glass picture frame, so had to clear up glass/a cut hand with glass in it. It's life.

I'd second that if your husband is so bad that you need to be there with him, it might be time to have a discussion about what help he needs through the care system. Otherwise, he needs to use adaptations in the house, and not do anything he struggles with, when he is alone.

Oh, and the email thing..... it's Monday morning. I would imagine they picked your email up when they logged in at 8/8.30(?), and were busy sorting cover, before they check in with you; and when they do check in, they will be keen to know how long you'll be off, given the knock on effect.
I hope all is ok.

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2024 13:02

Can you get an OT to do a home visit to make recommendations?

5128gap · 11/11/2024 13:00

Your life is hard OP. You are combining care for your husband with all the anxiety that causes, with raising a child and trying to work in a new role in a tough job. And like most carers, you will be under recognised. Sounds as though what you want is for people to see how hard this is, and acknowledge it.
Unfortunately I think you're going about it in a counter productive way, because there's an element of the martyr coming through. You'll force yourself to teach despite vomiting. I'll be alright, I have to be... But unfortunately this yields no rewards. Because all that happens is people think, she can do it really, she just wants to moan, and think you're over egging the pudding for sympathy.
My advice to you is to speak out honestly about your situation and what you can and can't do. If you can't go in, you can't. It's not a case of I can't, but I'll have to, is it? Likewise if you can, then do.
Talk to your manager, for goodness sake, let them know you're a carer. I'm not saying you'll be able to keep your job come what may, but you'll at least maximise your employment protections.
Then talk to your DH. Tell him what you need from him to enable you to care for him alongside the other responsibilities in your life. He may want things to be 'normal', but they're not, and you have to live the life you have not the one you'd prefer.

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2024 13:00

Completelyjo · 11/11/2024 12:30

You’re being so dramatic and defensive now. Your op literally said he was fine and you seemed more concerned about the walls so people were rightfully confused about why you needed to be off. You were specifically concerned about not having received a reply from the school by 9:20, nothing at all in your post about your husband!
Its got nothing to do with being a teacher, it would be strange in any industry.

Odd you’ve chosen to go in now that you say he was struggling but when you phoned off work he was fine.

She actually said that the walls didn't matter

What thread are you reading?

He's OK but clearly shaken as am I. The walls are a disaster but that's not important!

And why, when someone is clearly upset and worried do you have to be so nasty?

ilovesooty · 11/11/2024 12:59

Howmanycatsistoomany · 11/11/2024 12:31

So you're at school now and yet you're still finding time to post shouty messages on Mumsnet? Best of luck with that probationary period 😂

It's probably the lunch break. Are you just enjoying putting the boot in?

KateDelRick · 11/11/2024 12:58

DancingNotDrowning · 11/11/2024 12:48

OP I’m sorry you are having such a terrible time in RL and on this thread, which is such an appalling example of the race to the bottom attitude that permeates everywhere but is portrayed in typical obnoxious fashion on MN.

There is not a single place where I have worked where this sort of incident would not have provoked a decent response and I’ve worked in some really tough corporate environments.

i assume all the posters who are saying you should expect nothing (and you should be at work) are saying that because that is how they are treated at work/treat others. It’s not acceptable to be that much of an arsehole and I am sorry for everyone that has to put up with such unpleasant treatment.

Unfortunately, that's what schools are like. No teacher would expect a response to that sort of email, especially by 9.20am. The pressures on budget and time are enormous.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying that's what happens.

KateDelRick · 11/11/2024 12:56

I think the "being on probation" needs to be questioned here. Teachers are on probation for their first year. Even when you change schools you are deemed to have proven yourself as a professional and will have observations and targets the same as everyone else.
They shouldn't really ask for a probationary period, it's unusual.

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2024 12:55

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 11/11/2024 12:26

Yes I'm going to leave my disabled husband who I love beyond measure.

At least get an insulated cup with a lid

Onthesideofthespiders · 11/11/2024 12:55

Right. But, has this fall left him unable to care for himself. The sad fact is that unless you want to become his career and live on the pittance that is carer’s allowance, then you have to work and cannot risk losing your job. That means leaving him, even after a fall, unless he is actually injured and unable to take care of himself at all.

I don’t agree with any of that. I actually think carer’s allowance should be closer to a full time wage (for those caring for people who need full time care and not people taking the piss and claiming it for each other etc). But it isn’t. And you and your husband clearly need your income. That means making hard decisions. That means going to work and leaving him to look after himself, and it sounds like he is actually plenty capable and the falls etc are because he won’t use walking aids and is trying to do things, like carry both coffees, when he can’t. You cannot risk your job just because he won’t take necessary precautions.

You might have to sit him down for a proper chat. What happened this morning will be a factor in your school deciding if they will continue your employment. It would not have happened if he used mobility aids or stopped trying to carry two things at once. His refusal to accept his condition is risking your job, and also putting him at risk of serious harm. A fall in the stairs could be really bad. He was lucky. He needs to realise this, so maybe it’s time you lay it out plainly for him. Accidents will still happen, but he doesn’t need to set himself up in stupid situations and make the accident more likely.

It can be very difficult accepting he has to change the way he does things. But he does have to. Bringing you a coffee in the morning is a lovely thing, and it’s something nice he can do for you. There is no reason he needs to stop, but I’d suggest getting a cup caddy for 2 cups. He can then make the coffee, slot them into the caddy and carry them upstairs with one hand, keeping the other hand free for a walking aid or bannister use. Simple adjustments like will really help him continue doing the things he wants to do in a safe way. You can get a cup caddy for around £10/15. Then he can still bring you coffee and you can both enjoy a few minutes of coffee in bed together, he can still do this romantic gesture and maybe still feel a little more in control of his situation.

Good luck, adjusting to disability isn’t easy for either of you but you’ll figure it out, and you’ll find all sorts of great tools you can get to make tasks easier.

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