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AIBU to limit the duration of the Christmas visit

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Grannyinnwaiting · 11/11/2024 08:25

DSIL and child are visiting from overseas this Christmas. My elderly FIL and MIL live an hour away. They are coming to us for Christmas- no problem, we've a bigger house, I like to cook and we all get on. My sister will also be coming. I assumed they would come for 3/4 nights which was fine.

Now they want to come for 6 nights - we live rurally so thats a huge amount of shopping, catering and organising and I think I'll be run ragged. None of them really cooks so it'll fall to me. AIBU to ask that they return to the parental home after 4 nights. I don't want to be mean but I do want to enjoy Christmas

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Grannyinnwaiting · 27/12/2024 16:18

So things got more complicated - I had to have unexpected surgery last week and though I was still released and was just about able to host with more help from the others than usual I said I couldn't manage the 5 nights we agreed and that they could only stay for 3 nights. We had lunch out today and they left this afternoon. 3 nights def enough

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Grannyinnwaiting · 14/11/2024 12:52

We have told them 23rd is too early - and they can come on 24th. So that'll be dinner on 24,25,26 and lunch out on 27 & 28th which will be manageable

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Ginkypig · 14/11/2024 11:48

GhostOrchid · 14/11/2024 09:30

This was my in-laws at my SisILs a few years back. They’d stay from about the 22nd to early in the new year, like characters in a Jane Austen novel. I think it used to drive her potty and boundaries were put in place.

To be fair, we are also annoying visiting relatives at Christmas but only because it makes sense for us to travel because of where everyone is and because of the distance involved you need to stay around 3 nights for it to be worth it (plus we don’t see family much throughout the year). If it were up to me I’d quite happily stay at home.

Anyway, YANBU. At least ask everyone to take turns cooking and make sure you get out and do your own thing.

Ye this is why it has been settled as 4 nights. It’s way shorter that the original two+ weeks!

the guests I posted about are coming from a long way too (about 5-6 hours on a train) so it is a long way to come at a very busy time of year to travel for only a couple of nights. It wouldn’t be fair on them to make it visit shorter and while it can be stressful and annoying I love these people, they aren’t being deliberately rude or malicious so I also want to make an effort and do genuinely want to see them.

the first night is the arrival date so it is a short one anyway. Normally an easy dinner or chippy tea and general catch up with a not too late night as everyone has been travelling and I’m normally still working that day.

no cooking but that is my choice as they are not great in that department (plus it just adds more clean up) but iv added in asking for help with other jobs like I said in my last post. I’m also normally popping out on the 24th to pick up last minute bits that the shopping missed etc

GhostOrchid · 14/11/2024 09:30

Ginkypig · 11/11/2024 12:34

I had a trend of family turning up on the 22nd and staying until the 2-4th jan!
its partly my fault as I was new to hosting so wasn’t clear in my boundaries and to be honest it didn’t occur to me that anyone would want to spend so so much time visiting!

this would have always been a lot but they didn’t do anything to help or cook etc or go anywhere alone so unless I took them out they just stayed in the house with me running around the whole time providing! it felt way too full on!

I thought it was a one off anomaly but after the 2nd year when they did it again, and I couldn’t get out of it as trains had been booked for particular dates and couldn’t be changed!
I said new rule no more than 4 nights, absolutely maximum!

this year whoever is coming (not totally finalised) will be arriving on the 23rd (probably afternoon) and going home on the morning of the 27th. It long enough for a proper visit that’s separate from they busyness of Christmas Day then have Christmas Day and a quiet lazy Boxing Day but then everyone goes home!

I now assign small jobs too like lay the table or can you take that bin bag out or can you nip up to the shop for milk etc but unless I ask nobody offers. It’s a piss take I know but I also know it’s not malicious as there is autism involved and a couple of other issues that affect social awareness and interaction if that makes sense

I still feel that’s a long visit to be honest but it works better as I don’t see them much throughout the year so it covers a decent amount of catching up combined with celebrating Christmas.

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This was my in-laws at my SisILs a few years back. They’d stay from about the 22nd to early in the new year, like characters in a Jane Austen novel. I think it used to drive her potty and boundaries were put in place.

To be fair, we are also annoying visiting relatives at Christmas but only because it makes sense for us to travel because of where everyone is and because of the distance involved you need to stay around 3 nights for it to be worth it (plus we don’t see family much throughout the year). If it were up to me I’d quite happily stay at home.

Anyway, YANBU. At least ask everyone to take turns cooking and make sure you get out and do your own thing.

ABirdsEyeView · 14/11/2024 08:14

No point starting a thread if you're ultimately unwilling to do anything about the situation.

Toooldtopretend · 14/11/2024 06:55

I’m with you OP. My family live 3+ hours away and I always invite them for Xmas. They arrive Xmas eve and leave on 27th. It’s lovely but is hard work as it’s constant feeding and clearing up on a loop. I do look forward to the days after, before new year when it’s just me, DH and the kids and we can do things to put own timetable, go for long walks, watch films and eat up the leftovers.

NeedWineNow · 13/11/2024 22:24

@ConstanceM It was definitely a tense Christmas. DH was left under no illusion about how I felt and told that it was never to happen again. He was furious to be fair, and read them the riot act. MIL and SIL have long since died so the passage of time has dulled it a bit. Definitely wasn't funny at the time!

ConstanceM · 13/11/2024 21:00

NeedWineNow · 12/11/2024 23:08

@ConstanceM I know! I couldn’t believe they were staying in the first place but didn’t want to rock the boat. You want to know the best bit? We’d only just moved into our house together and it our first Christmas hosting. My mum was there too. In the middle of lunch on Xmas Day MIL announces that she’d invited other relations to OUR to house on Boxing Day without asking us first! I was incandescent, but again didn’t want to cause a fuss during lunch. I did go ballistic at DH in the kitchen later and told him he needed to put them right as I was taking my mum home as planned on Boxing Day and he could deal with it. Suffice to say they never did it again😡

I can't believe what I've just read about your MIL inviting other people to you new house at Xmas. 😡 Even my temple veins started to pop when I read that. Your DH needs to grow a pair and set some ground rules of behaviour for her. I banished my MIL for 6 months when my eldest was born for saying and doing mad shit. She needs to calm the F down or be ex-communicated. Failing that try garlic, holy water and a cross. I feel for you 🥺

NeedWineNow · 12/11/2024 23:08

ConstanceM · 12/11/2024 18:45

This one is taking the ROYAL piss. They cannot stay if they live 40mins away, absolutely no justification for that. If they drink alcohol, fine, 1 night MAX, then on your merry bike..honestly people people. You're allowed a life as well.

@ConstanceM I know! I couldn’t believe they were staying in the first place but didn’t want to rock the boat. You want to know the best bit? We’d only just moved into our house together and it our first Christmas hosting. My mum was there too. In the middle of lunch on Xmas Day MIL announces that she’d invited other relations to OUR to house on Boxing Day without asking us first! I was incandescent, but again didn’t want to cause a fuss during lunch. I did go ballistic at DH in the kitchen later and told him he needed to put them right as I was taking my mum home as planned on Boxing Day and he could deal with it. Suffice to say they never did it again😡

Cherrysoup · 12/11/2024 18:53

6 nights is too crazy, I’d be imprisoned for murder at the 4th night! Can’t they do what you said about going back to their parents? I’d definitely would be giving them jobs throughout. You don’t run a hotel and if mil is demanding, then she needs to be directed to help herself and not be a pain if she’s mobile.

ConstanceM · 12/11/2024 18:45

NeedWineNow · 11/11/2024 08:36

After the first Christmas debacle, when DH’s mum and sister came on Xmas Eve and casually mentioned to DH that they were planning to stay until after the New Year ( they only lived 40 mins from us!) I put my foot down and said we were only hosting for 2/3 days at most. Guests can come on Xmas Eve and leave either on Boxing Day or the morning of the day after. Admittedly that was easier to manage when we were working, as we had the excuse that we had to work between Xmas and New Year, but it’s something we’ve stuck to ever since.

This one is taking the ROYAL piss. They cannot stay if they live 40mins away, absolutely no justification for that. If they drink alcohol, fine, 1 night MAX, then on your merry bike..honestly people people. You're allowed a life as well.

Tink3rbell30 · 12/11/2024 18:27

I'd allow them but I wouldn't be cooking for all of that time. They can all chip in for takeaways.

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Coffeeloverme · 12/11/2024 15:43

I agree with most of the postings that 6 days hospitality is a little too demanding but can see you’re in a difficult position. I hope it all works out for you.

Irridescantshimmmer · 12/11/2024 15:19

Tell them you eed some help, just because they don't cook does'nt mean it should all be up to you on your own.

Many hands make light work, so delegate.

thanksicloud · 12/11/2024 14:54

Have voiced concerns to SIL and PIL but they still all want to come for 6 nights -

what did you say?!

thanksicloud · 12/11/2024 14:53

Not sure why me accepting the will of PIL in their 80s and SIL and DC on their first visit from another continent in 5 years bothers you quite so much- kindness isn't maybe one of your driving forces.

As i said, I wouldn’t consider not having them for a moment if i cared for them and loved them. Given you do… then it wouldnt have occurred to me in your shoes not to.

As i say, my bafflement is just to start a thread about something you really don’t want to happen and worry that you’ll be “run ragged” and it will all fall to “me because no one else cooks”. but turns out all you want is anonymous posters to advise you not to do it but then when you decide to “suck it up” get snippy at anyone wondering why when you give a very strident argument as to why you’d never consider not having them 😆 (clearly you did give it some thought but both you and your dh (who won’t be doing anything!) decided to suck it up!)

Grannyinnwaiting · 12/11/2024 13:57

@thanksicloud
"baffiling you started the thread when clearly you had no intention of changing any of the plans at all!"

Not sure why me accepting the will of PIL in their 80s and SIL and DC on their first visit from another continent in 5 years bothers you quite so much- kindness isn't maybe one of your driving forces.

As previously stated I wanted to be sure IWNBU by preferring 4 days ( resounding support from MN / thanks all) and I also got some good strategic advice.

So i've now worked out my meal planning which involves us all eating out on 27 th and 28th and me going to the gym on those days to get some headspace. I'm sure all will go okay though it wouldn't have been my first choice.

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GinnyPiggie · 12/11/2024 10:02

Good Lord no: I don't even let family members stay overnight! We have a tiny house though.

thanksicloud · 12/11/2024 10:01

baffiling you started the thread when clearly you had no intention of changing any of the plans at all!

NewName24 · 11/11/2024 22:10

Don't say they have to return to the parental home. Just say you'd love to have them for 3/4 nights but can't do longer. It's up to them where they stay after that.

This.
Seriously, 3 nights is more than generous.

Grannyinnwaiting · 11/11/2024 21:52

We are well off and don't need a contribution - PIL are in their 80s and SIL is a single parent travelling at significant expense over Christmas They'll pay for lunch if we go out on 27th and 28th.

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Hercisback1 · 11/11/2024 21:16

You're going to ask for money though yes?

You can't afford 4 extra people for 6 days.

thanksicloud · 11/11/2024 21:10

ok i’ll expect a thread on the 28th

Grannyinnwaiting · 11/11/2024 21:02

@thanksicloud
"i will expect a thread on christmas day Op
you whinging about your in laws"

Haha no I won't be whinging on Christmas day - I'm actually v pleased to have them for Christmas - it's the staying on until 29th that is the challenge.

We are trying to be kind as Parent in laws are in their 80s. and SIL and teen are travelling from another continent and haven't been back for Christmas for 5 years - given the age and distance factors it's hard to take a really tough stance. We therefore indicated a strong preference that they limit the length of the visit but have stopped short of a point blank refusal. Though DH doesn't cook he'll do lots of cleaning and other tasks.

Though I haven't felt able to follow the advice given I am relieved that the consensus is that IANBU in wishing it was a shorter visit.

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