Am I old or has shite behaviour become normal behaviour?

So much of this selfishness is related to phones and other devices isn't it? Oh how I wish it had never been invented sometimes. It's just so bloody damaging in so many ways.

YANBU.

This absolutely boils my piss. It’s now (sadly) the norm that everyone listens to whatever they want at whatever volume they want without a thought for anyone else.

I recently was on a train and a young girl sat down next to me. She started watching a video on full blast loud speaker on phone. I watched everyone’s eyes roll around me.

I very politely said to her “would you mind popping some earphones in” she looked at me and said “you’re weird”.

Some world call it good manners and having consideration for others I snapped back. Then muttered something about her sense of self entitlement. It took me all my strength not to f@ck her phone out of the train window.

Yep. I feel like standards are just really low in the UK these days, for pretty much everything

YANBU. Had to stay overnight in a hospital ward with DS 3 last week, and was almost driven insane with TVs/YouTube/games/video calls on full volume. I'd have lost my frigging mind if I'd had to have stayed there another night. It's the parents I get angry with, not the children - they're just thinking this stuff is acceptable due to their selfish, inconsiderate parents.

I got on a plane and sat on I aisle seat. The woman behind was talking to the man on the other side of the isle as they were together. When the flight safety info started they asked for everyone to listen be quiet. This woman kept on chatting loudly. I turned round and looked at her, never said a word- she said what? You don’t think I’ve heard it before, I’ve flown lots of times. The woman sat on the other side of the isle to me turned round and said

its not all about you

thete were a few sniggers and woman shut up

it was a classic, I shan’t forget 😂

I was once sat next to a suited man with shit headphones on the tube. Me and two friends sat opposite him started singing along with his music and pointing at him. When the rest of the carriage realised he was listening to Hit Me Baby One More Time in his fancy suit, he turned it off. We had to get off the tube and get the next one we were laughing so much.

Yeah I was a teenager over 25 years ago and teens definitely played annoying music at people on the buses then. It might have been just scrolling through all the latest ringtones on a 3310, but still it happened. Walkman had been out for like 15 years by that point too.

So your dd has sound playing in public without headphones then..

I feel your pain. Had a Brazilian woman and her partner talking all night to their relatives on a ward of 10 new mums and babies. Wouldn’t shut up even when other partners told them to (why the partners were there on a female only ward at 10pm at night is beyond me, neither mothers or baby’s could get any sleep). I was supposed to stay in for an extra night due to c-section and blood loss but discharged myself so I could get home and get some sleep.
This was 2016 and I put it down to them being from a different culture but I think they were just bloody selfish pricks.

Agreed. Also because more and more people do it, people feel it's more acceptable, like how people used to smoke in shopping centres, pubs and restaurants etc (and chuck cig ends everywhere) 20+ years ago.

I think that the collective agreement of decent behaviour in public has been broken.

There are a lot of people claiming their rights trump other peoples rights.

I am old too, but not that old.

A lot depends on place on a lot depends on leadership.

If the gym /resturant/ plane had a policy and enforced it you would not have that issue.

But - money...

It’s both op. It’s your perception of it as you get old and the change in society.

The last three times I have been to the theatre, I have had to ask other members of the audience to stop talking. And earlier this year, I went to the opera (significant production, sought after tickets) and had to tell the woman next to me to stop filming it on her phone. She looked at me as though I was completely bonkers and unreasonable. Satisfyingly, she didn’t return after the interval. And these are just the people sitting in close proximity to me - I imagine the whole audience must be peppered with similar inconsiderate ARSEHOLES.

Youre not wrong OP.

I always say something, or there always Motörhead

YANBU I have seen this a lot and it also drives me mad. There is no need. That and everyone seems to be having their phone conversations on loud speaker !?? Why!!!

Kids watching annoying programmes on full volume really grates on me. I don't get how the parents can't pick up that that's hugely annoying to many people. At least turn it down if not able to use headphones

So do I!

I still hear lots of people's music through their headphones!

Yes, which is a point I picked up on later in the thread. The headphones were crap and you could hear people's music through them.

I had a walkman in the 80s - I always used it with headphones, as did others.

I was at the cinema today watching Paddington 3 (an Everyman, not a cheapy vue mini morning!) and a young adult couple (with no kids) were more interested in fidgeting and snuggling on the sofa, being on their very bright phones with the odd puff of their vape than watching the film. If they see on the back row I probably wouldn't have noticed but they picked the centre of the front row! I don't get it. Why pay for a film if you're not even going to pretend to watch it! If you don't like the film just leave, but they stayed for the whole thing. The cinema has a really nice loungey seating area so you could even sit there if you were just there for the food/drink/vibes. So weird.

Also I was watching a kids film so there were young kids being a bit noisy and even a toddler running around. That didn't bother me as they were in the aisle and the parents ending up leaning early, I just thought it was a waste of money for the parents! It's the adults that I don't understand.

Also not slating Vue Mini mornings, they were great back in the day so I could work out whether my kids were ready for the cinema properly! 🤣

I was in Tesco recently with teen DD. I was silently getting annoyed with a couple of kids whizzing about on scooters, (absolutely massive tesco, not obvious where parent/s were) when DD mentioned how stressful it was because of the annoying boys on scooters! So it's not just middle aged women getting grumpy about it!

Me too

Yep I hate this sort of behaviour, it’s the worst sort of selfishness ... If my DS wants to watch or play something on public transport he either uses headphones or has it on silent mode. I’ve explained to him that we have to be considerate of those around us and they won’t want to listen to loads of beeping sounds from his game. It’s pretty easy to enforce and just a basic part of the social contract, so why others can’t/don’t/won’t do it really bugs me.