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Am I old or has shite behaviour become normal behaviour?

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WishItWasDifferent25 · 10/11/2024 21:42

Ok. Fully prepared to be told I am unreasonable but I’m nearly choking from clutching my pearls here….

  1. on a plane last week. Child with iPad on full volume. No attempt to reduce volume and no headphones in sight. No one except me seemed to be bothered so I quietly seethed.

  2. in John Lewis today. Cafe. Quiet and calm except for parents entertaining toddler by playing baby shark over and over. I felt I had to leave. No one else seemed to even flinch.

  3. the gym yesterday. Watching greys anatomy with my headphones on. Still had subtitles because the noise from spin was a LOT. Guy gets on the one next to me and sticks a programme on full volume. I went for pointed look but not up for confrontation tbh. He moved around the gym with his super loud programme following him.

IS THIS NORMAL. Or am I turning into cranky old bint. Am only 46. Didn’t see it coming.

OP posts:
Grumpy12345 · 11/11/2024 09:47

SisterAgatha · 10/11/2024 22:01

I’ve played equally loud music before. Some trash metal. You only have to play it for a matter of seconds before the other person looks up and you can say “oh, I thought seeing as you were being rude and inconsiderate, I would too”. Followed by sweet smile.

Years ago I connected my Bluetooth to someone’s phone and played Barbie girl (I don’t think you can do this now)

i threw a mint at someone on the train once and stared him dead in the eye.

the trick in life is ALWAYS be the crazier person. Talk outloud to yourself if need be “anyone gonna turn that facking noise down”

it’ll be a funnier existance. And you let your inner seething out.

This is brilliant! I want to start doing this!

Grumpy12345 · 11/11/2024 09:46

MumOfOneAllAlone · 10/11/2024 21:57

Yanbu op, people seem more selfish than ever before

My dd sometimes has the tablet but the volume is as low as possible

Why doesn’t your DD use headphones when she’s in a public space?

Ivyn · 11/11/2024 09:35

MumOfOneAllAlone · 10/11/2024 21:57

Yanbu op, people seem more selfish than ever before

My dd sometimes has the tablet but the volume is as low as possible

So you're part of the problem.

30percent · 11/11/2024 09:33

Maria1979 · 11/11/2024 08:11

Nobody is complaining about "normal" noise; people talking, baby crying etc. This is about occupying public space with loud noise of your choice; music/film etc. Try commuting for an hour while listening to baby shark on high volume going on repeat...

I mean I'd much rather hear baby shark then hear crackheads kicking off which is the source of most noise in public spaces.
But seriously hearing other people make noise is part of life, funny how the younguns these days are called "snowflakes" by people who can't handle a bit of noise.

HaddyAbrams · 11/11/2024 09:25

Didimum · 11/11/2024 07:45

Yes, I’ve encountered teenagers doing this on buses and in the streets since music-playing phones existed. So around 20yrs. Obviously ‘forever’ is just an emphasis meaning it’s nothing new. I even remember teens having mini speakers for discmans in the 90s on public transport.

Fair enough. We (as in my friends and I) would only have played music out loud in the park, and sat away from other groups. I don't remember other groups being different to us.
Yes we could sometimes hear music through people's headphones, but it was nowhere near as annoying as music without headphones.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 11/11/2024 09:24

Yanbu. There seems to have been a cultural shift in terms of loud noise in public spaces. More people think its fine to have loud conversations on loud speaker or play music, videos out loud on public transport without earphones.

It's now expected that you put in earphones or ear phones to block out noise rather than use ear phones when you want to play something.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 11/11/2024 09:23

It happens a lot now but as it seems to be normalised there’s not much you can do apart from ask them not to do this.

Whatafustercluck · 11/11/2024 09:21

Yanbu op. A man on the train last week was listening to his phone on full blast. Tbh, although nobody said anything, a number of passengers nearby looked unimpressed. So I think there are lots of people who feel the way you/ we do.

ChevyCamaro · 11/11/2024 09:16

It’s because people are scared to say anything. And in public transport ( buses anyway) the drivers are told NOT to confront noisy/ disruptive passengers. Even ten years ago, if a load of teens were shouting/ making noise on the top deck the driver would stop the bus, stomp upstairs and tell them the bus is going nowhere until they pack in in, or they can get off.
Now the driver just ignores, and everyone else thinks well if you can’t beat them join them.
I still ask some people to turn it down. Generally teens snigger and whisper to each other, but they do comply. I refuse to be scared to say anything.

Gogogo12345 · 11/11/2024 09:14

username7891 · 10/11/2024 22:07

When I was a teenager people had walkmen with loud irritating tinny music. Then the discman, then the iPod etc. The Walkman was around in the 80s.

Edited

They did at least have headphones. Couldn't play the music otherwise like on a phone today

potatocakesinprogress · 11/11/2024 09:12

The gym one I had as well!! Our gym is a little community one so there's just a radio on the side. Turned it down a bit while I was using the machine right next to it (it's 50% ads anyway, not much music) because it was on loud. Immediately a guy comes storming out of a different room altogether, turns it up to max. I go into the room he's in and he's just lying on the equipment with his eyes closed listening to the music?! The rest of the time I'm there he picks up a small 2lb weight, walks into another room, puts it down, lies on the equipment for a nap again, wanders around for a bit, repeat. While we're all being deafened with ads. Just bizarre.

MillenialAvocado · 11/11/2024 09:11

StrangewaysHereWeCome · 11/11/2024 07:44

Urrgh. Once I had a bloke behind me on a 2hr train journey watching Line of Duty on full volume on his phone. I asked him to use earphones, and he looked at me blankly, so I told him who H was before moving seats.

😂 😂

Didimum · 11/11/2024 09:09

Floatlikeafeather2 · 11/11/2024 09:06

No they haven't.

They definitely have from my perspective. Someone upthread posted the same.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 11/11/2024 09:06

Didimum · 10/11/2024 21:59

Teenagers have been doing this forever, to be fair.

No they haven't.

Stropalotopus83 · 11/11/2024 09:05

I work in a hospital and one thing I have have really noticed recently is the complete loss of lift etiquette!! It used to be the case that when the lift doors opened people would wait for those getting off the lift to get out and then get in. More and more now I find when the lift doors open there are two or three people store immediately in the opening blocking my path off the lift and they then seem annoyed that they have to move so I can get off!!! Sometimes they try and get on even though they can clearly see I need to get off! For some reason this absolutely infuriates me and I genuinely don't understand why they can't just wait!

Nothatgingerpirate · 11/11/2024 09:01

I'm 45 and totally understand.
Only what's an old bint? Don't know this one.
😁

KimberleyClark · 11/11/2024 08:46

Annabella92 · 11/11/2024 06:37

Well I suppose people haven't taken to breaking wind loudly in public yet... that's a positive I guess?

DH and I were on the train recently. He dropped something on the floor, bent to pick it up and accidentally let forth a loud fart. Fortunately everyone within hearing distance had headphones on so no one heard. That’s a positive I suppose.

SharpOpalNewt · 11/11/2024 08:40

And it's not as if headphones are not cheaply available. Or subtitles.

eurochick · 11/11/2024 08:38

I don't know why some people are under the impression it has become socially acceptable to play their (shyte) music and videos out loud. It really hasn't and I find random noise like that very stressful. Even at a low volume (as someone on this thread seems to think is fine) it's really bloody irritating.

We took our first long haul flight with our daughter at three. We taught her in advance 'no headphones, no tv'. It's really not difficult.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 11/11/2024 08:38

MumOfOneAllAlone · 10/11/2024 21:57

Yanbu op, people seem more selfish than ever before

My dd sometimes has the tablet but the volume is as low as possible

Why hasn’t she got headphones on?

Bettysnow · 11/11/2024 08:37

Loud noise really does seem to be a thing now. I have to mute the tv when ads come on as the vast majority involve someone screaming at the top of their lungs

DexysMidniteRunners · 11/11/2024 08:36

SisterAgatha · 10/11/2024 22:01

I’ve played equally loud music before. Some trash metal. You only have to play it for a matter of seconds before the other person looks up and you can say “oh, I thought seeing as you were being rude and inconsiderate, I would too”. Followed by sweet smile.

Years ago I connected my Bluetooth to someone’s phone and played Barbie girl (I don’t think you can do this now)

i threw a mint at someone on the train once and stared him dead in the eye.

the trick in life is ALWAYS be the crazier person. Talk outloud to yourself if need be “anyone gonna turn that facking noise down”

it’ll be a funnier existance. And you let your inner seething out.

Are you my long lost twin 😂 yes to always be the more crazy bitch on the bus / train / tube. I find if I look someone in the eye and tap the seat saying You can sit here, usually nobody does 😂. I wear earphones when near anyone else as I can't bear it

PadstowGirl · 11/11/2024 08:34

Well aside from the ageist and misogynistic "cranky old bint", you are not wrong.

Fizbosshoes · 11/11/2024 08:33

This might be stereotyping but in the 1980s I'm sure it was mainly teens and 20-somethings that generally had "portable" music. Now anyone from the age of 2 upwards generally has some sort of device!

I was a kid in the 80s/90s and when we went to the beach my dads stipulations were that we had to be a mile away from any toilets/icecreams/amusements sufficiently far away from anyone with a stero or a dog. (Way more people had dogs than stereos!)

RamblasTapas · 11/11/2024 08:33

You need to ask them to turn it off /down!!!

I doubt you were the only one annoyed but if nobody complains nothing will change.