Am I old or has shite behaviour become normal behaviour?

As there is always an excuse for everything, naughty is a forbidden word, no-one is ever to blame, they might have some sort of disorder, bad behaviour is always just a snapshot- then what on earth did we think would happen-that people would just self regulate.

They haven't, they won't and this is what we have as a result. Get used to it because there is no putting this genie back in the bottle.

I don't see the need of constant screens by adults and children, even when at the gym. We complain about it but then it's the adults implementing and designing these things. Kids I guess are just following that behaviour.

I don't judge other parents though when I see their kids with iPads, I'm sure there are things I can 'correct' as a parent but maybe just oblivious to.

I don't turn the sound off as she then tries to turn it up as she thinks its broken

Super low so that only her and anyone sat next to her, at the same height, cab hear

Better than a restless child making lots of noise

No, the volume is incredibly low

You'd only hear it if you were sat at her height, right next to her

Much better than a kid becoming restless and making lots of noise

I only use it if I need dd to sit still

She has asd and struggles in situations she doesn't understand, ie waiting at the doctors

I'll have the volume very very low, so only she or anyone sat right next to her with their ear as close to the screen as she is can hear it

I try not to have screens out but, for example today we were at the hospital, she became restless and started jumping up and down

I figure a 5yo singing '5 little monkeys' at the top of their lungs while jumping is far more annoying than peppa pig on a super low volume

She has asd and won't wear them

The audio is very very low, I can't hear it unless I lean close to her

Very very very low, lower than the sound of a conversation

I don't get the yelling into speakerphone conversations with the phone held to their mouth and not their ear

I think playing loud stuff on public transport comes under antisocial behaviour.

Usually it irritates the flick out of me but then on a train the other day a teen bloke was playing radio 4 news and I was totally OK with that 😂

In my workplace we have a staff room for people to go on their break. The table can comfortably accomodate up to around 6 people . Sometimes people will chat to one another. But often there will be several people scrolling (silently) on their phones, reading , watching something with headphones. Generally if its really busy people will just want to sit and chill. I find it really selfish when someone decides to facetime, make a call or watch something with the sound on. I think they should go outside to a less confined space. But maybe they think I should go outside if I don't want to hear it..🤷‍♀️

I think something needs to be done.

Transport companies need to clamp down on that sort of behaviour.

The NHS needs to do it as well.

I think that sensory overload is becoming the norm unfortunately

"Sensory overload" my arse. This is just people being inconsiderate. Yes it is inconsiderate to play music, tv, or anything really without headphones in this day and age in public spaces, especially public spaces that have their own noises to deal with. "Sensory overload" is such a wanky way of saying that I shouldn't have to listen to anyone else's choice of media in a public space that also puts the onus on you, as the listener, rather than them, the inconsiderate oaf.

It is long overdue that on buses, trains and planes, a very clear notice be issued:

The use of mobile phones, ipads, laptops and screens is prohibited unless using headphones or earphones.

Yes I know it’s possible to use these devices simply to read, but an awful lot of people who travel, seem to use them for music videos, films, games, full on phone conversations, or to keep the ‘little ones’ entertained.

Long plane and train journeys are agony listening to the conversations, films, puzzles and kids toys, belonging to total strangers.
In the era of Instagram, “I’m a celebrity”; “Gogglebox” and the mantra of “Because I’m worth it” etc etc, too many people think they are fascinating or on the cusp of being discovered, they are so self absorbed, that the right others have to quiet enjoyment, is ignored. These days who would ask with any confidence, ‘please would you use headphones?’ ….its not an unreasonable request, its just asking for some civility, both parties get what they want, but we’re very short on civility these days. If the train line or airline company impose the rule, then it works, and people modify their behaviour. These businesses impose lots of other restrictions, adding an additional one which makes travelling more pleasant would be an improvement.

Low as possible is inaudible to the listener…just turn the sound off completely in a public space.

“Old” people have been saying the worlds gone to the dogs since the Dawn of time so maybe it is that 😂

You don't remember in the mid 80's there would be groups of teens walking around with loud ghetto blasters on their shoulders, so they had their own loud theme music as they walked down the road?

I was on the train recently and the man in the seat behind me was having an annoyingly loud conversation on the phone. When he'd finished his phonecall he started clipping his nails which was even more horrible and annoying. When the train reached its terminus I surprised myself by telling him that he should take his nail clippings with him as it was disgusting for the next person who sat there! He said he had brushed them all onto the floor as if that made it all Ok🙄

That’s fine. We can think different things, you know?

Kids used to take mini speakers on the bus in the 90s to play music from their Discmans. I remember it very well and commuted around London for 20yrs.

I stand by what I said. They haven't had the wherewithall to make the kind of intrusive noise that they have now until relatively recently. I'm sure I and my friends could be irritatingly noisy at times, on buses and elsewhere, when we were all together but there's something different about the sort of noise that comes out of devices, particularly when people have to have them on loud to hear them over their shrieking and shriek louder to hear each other over them.

Guess it might depend where you were in the country. This was London and very common.

Tbh, I’m not sure why there is such an argument as to someone experiencing something different to you. Your experience isn’t the only one. I haven’t experienced anything like what OP and some others have – grown adults listening to TV on morning trains or in dentist waiting rooms etc, only teenagers with music on streets and public transport as I always have. But I’m hardly going to tell them they are wrong (and I haven’t) because that’s their experience.

2 adults watching a film on a phone on the plane. Sat in the front row and none of the crew said a word.
The crew should be nipping it in the bud.
It's just so rude.

Our whole society is built on the worship of self. How many times on MN have you seen people say that someone's not 'serving their needs'? Such a selfish culture.

I became surprisingly internally furious in the waiting room of my GP surgery last week for something similar. A fully grown woman was watching something on her phone with the volume up loud. She then proceeded to scroll through other videos and watch each one on the same - loud - volume.

I fantasise about having a special power to break people’s phones and tablets with just a thought. Playing music/watching TV out loud drives me INSANE