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To dislike the increase in dogs in shops/cafes

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amymel2016 · 10/11/2024 18:07

I’ve recently noticed a huge increase in non-service dogs in cafes and shops. I was in Joules earlier today and there were 3 in there, two of which were barking and growling at each other. I was in a cafe last week with 2 in there. Surely it can’t be fun for the dog having to sit under a cramped table?

I’m very allergic to dogs and the smell absolutely sets me on edge. I don’t understand why they are allowed in? I’m not about to walk in with a cat or a rabbit so why dogs? It’s also the attitude of most (sweeping generalisation!) dog owners which annoys me, no, I don’t want to talk to your dog or about your dog. I don’t care if you say he’s friendly I don’t want it anywhere near me.

Goes without saying that service dogs are bloody amazing and they should absolutely be welcome everywhere.

OP posts:
Dotto · 12/11/2024 18:50

LlynTegid · 12/11/2024 18:45

I welcome well behaved dogs and well behaved dog owners. Not otherwise.

Small businesses are struggling enough as people restrict spending given recent inflation, so to refuse anyone with a dog could mean the difference between being in business and not.

Do dog owners spend more money then? Are they and their pooches better customers? Genuine question.

81% of people are agreeing with the OP that they dislike this. I, and most of my family always try to choose a dogless cafe over a doggy one. Does our money and custom not matter?

LlynTegid · 12/11/2024 18:45

I welcome well behaved dogs and well behaved dog owners. Not otherwise.

Small businesses are struggling enough as people restrict spending given recent inflation, so to refuse anyone with a dog could mean the difference between being in business and not.

Tapthisscreen · 12/11/2024 18:31

Then parents should stay out of cafes and restaurants until their children can behave. It’s like recall, unless you’re 100% sure of excellent behaviour, stay away. Or perhaps try the crate.

Pickandmixmood · 12/11/2024 18:30

Bloom15 · 12/11/2024 18:20

It's not the same at all - I hate this view. Parents cannot leave their toddlers at home alone

Dog owners shouldn’t leave their dogs at home alone all day.
We like to have our furry friends out with us and why not if the premise welcomes dogs?

Bloom15 · 12/11/2024 18:20

florizel13 · 10/11/2024 19:55

I'd rather share a cafe with a well-behaved dog lying quietly under the table than an annoying shrieking toddler running around!

It's not the same at all - I hate this view. Parents cannot leave their toddlers at home alone

GreekDogRescue · 12/11/2024 17:26

I love seeing dogs out and about. Live and let live. YABU. 🐶

K0OLA1D · 12/11/2024 17:24

PontiacFirebird · 12/11/2024 17:08

I would assume that when most mothers are in the pub and the children are in bed their father is looking after them? Or..grandparents/ babysitter…. or do women have to stay home every night until all children are 18?
As for crating, I wouldn’t do it to a dog, let alone a child!

Oh bloody hell it was a pissing joke. Lighten up. God almighty this place. Do you have to be offended by every bloody comment.

PontiacFirebird · 12/11/2024 17:08

I would assume that when most mothers are in the pub and the children are in bed their father is looking after them? Or..grandparents/ babysitter…. or do women have to stay home every night until all children are 18?
As for crating, I wouldn’t do it to a dog, let alone a child!

vodkaredbullgirl · 12/11/2024 17:07

No33 · 12/11/2024 17:06

I unmatched someone on tinder today for calling his dogs fur babies 🤢

I'm sure they would be heartbroken lol

No33 · 12/11/2024 17:06

amymel2016 · 10/11/2024 18:47

Fur babies 🤮 😂

I unmatched someone on tinder today for calling his dogs fur babies 🤢

IKEAJesus · 12/11/2024 16:57

Lots of dogs in my local garden centre today - most were being no problem. But one obviously didn’t like other dogs and was barking incessantly every time it saw one. Why would you take a dog if it’s going to behave like that?

A different owner also got pissed off with me when I asked politely if they could move their dog so I could get to something on a lower shelf right by the dog’s backside - I didn’t really want to put my face near that. I had been waiting for a couple of minutes for them to move on, but they were obliviously chatting.

K0OLA1D · 12/11/2024 16:28

Tapthisscreen · 12/11/2024 15:32

Could crate them. A reverse on the old classic “treating your dogs like children”.

Make it into a little den for them. Some where warm with snacks and water. Grand idea.

Tapthisscreen · 12/11/2024 15:32

K0OLA1D · 12/11/2024 14:26

Not if they left their kids in bed 😂

Could crate them. A reverse on the old classic “treating your dogs like children”.

ANEC · 12/11/2024 14:45

Yep, I’m with you OP. Shops are no place for dogs. I have dog and manage to the shops without him. If I’m out all day I book him into doggy day care or ask a neighbour or friend if they can help.

I’m actively avoiding shops that allow dogs.

K0OLA1D · 12/11/2024 14:26

PontiacFirebird · 12/11/2024 10:10

What’s wrong with that? Are mothers not allowed to go out??

Not if they left their kids in bed 😂

PontiacFirebird · 12/11/2024 10:10

K0OLA1D · 11/11/2024 22:03

While you were in the pub?

What’s wrong with that? Are mothers not allowed to go out??

Cindersroo · 12/11/2024 01:38

I personally don’t like it BUT I get there are some who want to take their dogs to cafe etc so I think we need clearly identifiable dog friendly and non dog friendly cafes/restaurants to make it fair for everyone.

It’s really annoying if you, for any reason, don’t want to be around dog in a cafe or restaurant then you go in and order, thinking it’s a pet free zone only to see a dog come in after and be allowed to stay.

It would be excellent if all dog friendly places had some kind of sticker like a paw they could place on their window/door/website and the ones that don’t have that are the ones where dogs aren’t allowed!

I was going out for lunch earlier this year in a specific location in London and I had to call about 12 places in the area before I found one that was NOT dog friendly. It would’ve been so much easier if they all just displayed this on their website!

When I book hotels it’s a lot easier for me to see if dogs are allowed or not and I typically avoid dog friendly hotels. Although I once stayed at a B&B that stipulated dogs weren’t allowed only to have the owners 3 yappy dogs run at me when I entered. It was wrong of them not to state they have their own dogs on the premises.

Maverickess · 11/11/2024 22:49

YeOldeGreyhound · 11/11/2024 22:04

Is that even legal? Kids in pubs after 9pm.

Yes if the licence allows it, but they must be accompanied if under 16, and that's if the place serves alcohol only.

I think from memory, children, accompanied or not are not allowed between midnight & 5 am as a blanket law, if it's a place that serves alcohol only.

9pm is a popular cut off as that's when a lot of places stop serving food, so they shift to drinks, namely alcohol as what they sell, and you have to protect children from the effects of alcohol as part of your licence.

Jaehee · 11/11/2024 22:27

I used to get smuggled into pubs with 'no children' signs. When I was inevitably spotted, my parents said I would be quiet and no bother Confused

YeOldeGreyhound · 11/11/2024 22:04

chipsaway · 11/11/2024 22:02

YANBU! I’m a dog owner and I agree. Time and place.

I’ve seen an increase of toddlers and kids in pubs after 9pm. No need. I didn’t do it with mine. They were in bed.

Is that even legal? Kids in pubs after 9pm.

K0OLA1D · 11/11/2024 22:03

chipsaway · 11/11/2024 22:02

YANBU! I’m a dog owner and I agree. Time and place.

I’ve seen an increase of toddlers and kids in pubs after 9pm. No need. I didn’t do it with mine. They were in bed.

While you were in the pub?

chipsaway · 11/11/2024 22:02

YANBU! I’m a dog owner and I agree. Time and place.

I’ve seen an increase of toddlers and kids in pubs after 9pm. No need. I didn’t do it with mine. They were in bed.

UnrealRita · 11/11/2024 21:58

YeOldeGreyhound · 11/11/2024 21:30

Oh, this is an original thread.
If an establishment allows dogs, then dog owners are doing nothing wrong by taking them in there. I would add that this would apply to well behaved dogs. Believe it or not, dog owners can dislike how other owners let their dog behave.
Most people know their dog though, and wont drag them to places that they will play up in. When my dog was a puppy, she was a bit of a cow and I would not go inside places with her as she would not settle. Now, she is perfect, and lays on her blanket and does not bother anyone.

The comments on here about dog owner's houses smelling though. It honestly sounds like stuff kids say to each other at school. If my house smells of dog, then I don't care. None of the posters on this thread are going in my house anyway. This thread is almost as batshit about the one demanding that people stop referring to themselves as pet parents in their own home.

I think it's a great way to weed out people - who wants friends that are going to judge their house anyway.

How dare people have something that involves getting healthy exercise everyday, that is good for their mental health and fantastic for the immune system of children.

YeOldeGreyhound · 11/11/2024 21:30

Oh, this is an original thread.
If an establishment allows dogs, then dog owners are doing nothing wrong by taking them in there. I would add that this would apply to well behaved dogs. Believe it or not, dog owners can dislike how other owners let their dog behave.
Most people know their dog though, and wont drag them to places that they will play up in. When my dog was a puppy, she was a bit of a cow and I would not go inside places with her as she would not settle. Now, she is perfect, and lays on her blanket and does not bother anyone.

The comments on here about dog owner's houses smelling though. It honestly sounds like stuff kids say to each other at school. If my house smells of dog, then I don't care. None of the posters on this thread are going in my house anyway. This thread is almost as batshit about the one demanding that people stop referring to themselves as pet parents in their own home.

tinofbeans · 11/11/2024 20:34

OP YANBU!

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