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To dislike the increase in dogs in shops/cafes

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amymel2016 · 10/11/2024 18:07

I’ve recently noticed a huge increase in non-service dogs in cafes and shops. I was in Joules earlier today and there were 3 in there, two of which were barking and growling at each other. I was in a cafe last week with 2 in there. Surely it can’t be fun for the dog having to sit under a cramped table?

I’m very allergic to dogs and the smell absolutely sets me on edge. I don’t understand why they are allowed in? I’m not about to walk in with a cat or a rabbit so why dogs? It’s also the attitude of most (sweeping generalisation!) dog owners which annoys me, no, I don’t want to talk to your dog or about your dog. I don’t care if you say he’s friendly I don’t want it anywhere near me.

Goes without saying that service dogs are bloody amazing and they should absolutely be welcome everywhere.

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Gardenbird123 · 13/11/2024 17:18

I'm relieved reading all these comments - I thought I was one of a very small number who don't want dogs in shops, don't think they are fur babies and really don't like them on seats in cafes. Thank you 😅

IKEAJesus · 13/11/2024 17:14

I’m not picking on Newfoundlands, btw - I like them! Just not in a very confined space,

IKEAJesus · 13/11/2024 17:12

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 17:00

Then it's on the cafe owners to establish rules and remove the trouble makers.

A dog shaking is not a ridiculous thing to expect though. Come on. Barking yes, get out. Same with jumping up or growing or bothering others. But you can't stop a dog shaking or wagging on the way in or out before they've settled

It’s not a ridiculous thing to expect, but there’s a difference between a toy poodle shaking and a Newfoundland shaking. Also surely the owner could see whether the cafe was set up so that there was sufficient space for their dog to access without interfering with other customers.

You’d hope that the owner of the Newfoundland would have the good sense not to take them into a cafe with tables close together where there really isn’t room for that size dog, even if the cafe is technically dog-friendly.

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 17:04

Pusheen467 · 13/11/2024 17:03

Bit of a disingenuous comment when it seems nearly all cafes are dog friendly now. It's not unreasonable to not want dog hair in your food and drinks.

It's also not unreasonable for people to take their dogs to dog friendly places

Pusheen467 · 13/11/2024 17:03

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 16:55

No one makes anyone go to a dog friendly cafe. Just as no one is forced into a home with a dog or to have a dog in their home.

Bit of a disingenuous comment when it seems nearly all cafes are dog friendly now. It's not unreasonable to not want dog hair in your food and drinks.

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 17:00

IKEAJesus · 13/11/2024 16:58

But there’s a difference between dog-friendly and dogs behaving in a way to impact others.

I don’t mind dogs if they are going to lay quietly under their owner’s table. I don’t want to be in a cafe where dogs are barking at each other or the owners let them shake hair over food / drink at the next table.

Just because a cafe is dog-friendly doesn’t mean all dogs are suitable for that specific environment.

Then it's on the cafe owners to establish rules and remove the trouble makers.

A dog shaking is not a ridiculous thing to expect though. Come on. Barking yes, get out. Same with jumping up or growing or bothering others. But you can't stop a dog shaking or wagging on the way in or out before they've settled

IKEAJesus · 13/11/2024 16:58

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 16:55

No one makes anyone go to a dog friendly cafe. Just as no one is forced into a home with a dog or to have a dog in their home.

But there’s a difference between dog-friendly and dogs behaving in a way to impact others.

I don’t mind dogs if they are going to lay quietly under their owner’s table. I don’t want to be in a cafe where dogs are barking at each other or the owners let them shake hair over food / drink at the next table.

Just because a cafe is dog-friendly doesn’t mean all dogs are suitable for that specific environment.

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 16:55

Pusheen467 · 13/11/2024 16:16

When I look after my mum's long haired dog I often have to pull hairs out of my food/mouth. It's fine because I agreed to look after her but people shouldn't have to tolerate it in cafes.

No one makes anyone go to a dog friendly cafe. Just as no one is forced into a home with a dog or to have a dog in their home.

Pusheen467 · 13/11/2024 16:16

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:32

I've had dogs for most of my life and can honestly say I've never had a dog hair land in my cup of tea.

When I look after my mum's long haired dog I often have to pull hairs out of my food/mouth. It's fine because I agreed to look after her but people shouldn't have to tolerate it in cafes.

IKEAJesus · 13/11/2024 16:01

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:32

I've had dogs for most of my life and can honestly say I've never had a dog hair land in my cup of tea.

I’m not sure I’ve ever had a dog hair land in my cup of tea, but I don’t find it particularly pleasant to be next to a dog shaking itself off. I can see how a hair could land in a drink / on food.

It sounds like there wasn’t really room for the dog if that happened - so again, an owner not being aware of the impact on others (or not caring).

MarvellousMonsters · 13/11/2024 16:00

"Sorry but all dogs smell, all dog owners houses smell, all holiday cottages that allow dogs smell"

No they don't. It's breed and health dependent. I have short haired dogs that are raw fed and they don't smell. Thick coated/fluffy dogs, especially those fed kibble and/or tinned food, do smell. I'm not nose-blind, I have a very sensitive sense of smell, I can smell other dogs in people's houses, cars, on their clothes, and it can make me gag if it's very strong.

YeOldeGreyhound · 13/11/2024 15:41

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:32

I've had dogs for most of my life and can honestly say I've never had a dog hair land in my cup of tea.

Same.
If dog hair and dander is a permanent feature in the air of somewhere that allows dogs, then imagine the stuff that comes off of humans.

KimberleyClark · 13/11/2024 15:41

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:32

I've had dogs for most of my life and can honestly say I've never had a dog hair land in my cup of tea.

Neither have I.

Krumblina · 13/11/2024 15:41

Difficult as I don't like this but I also don't want loads of dogs being left at home for hours barking.

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:38

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 15:34

No, me too and I've never seen microscopic dander flying about the place either

But go somewhere they allow dogs and bingo...a flying hair!

K0OLA1D · 13/11/2024 15:34

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:32

I've had dogs for most of my life and can honestly say I've never had a dog hair land in my cup of tea.

No, me too and I've never seen microscopic dander flying about the place either

KimberleyClark · 13/11/2024 15:33

I’m a dog lover but not currently a dog owner. It does seem that dog friendly is becoming the default now andI do get it’s hard if you have allergies or just don’t lime them.

Cosyblankets · 13/11/2024 15:32

Appledrop · 13/11/2024 15:15

I visited a Hotel Chocolat café today, thinking we would be safe from pet dogs. However, shortly after we ordered and sat down, a dog and its owner entered the café. They sat next to us, and when the dog shook itself off and hair flew into my cup of tea and onto the staff who were cleaning the tables. No doubt microscopic dander too. It was quite unpleasant. I can't help but wonder how many customers have unknowingly eaten hair and other debris on their food and drinks directly from dogs, not just directly from pet owners, double whamy. Needless to say, we decided to leave. I also suffer from pet allergies, so I spent the next couple of hours sneezing and coughing.

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I've had dogs for most of my life and can honestly say I've never had a dog hair land in my cup of tea.

Appledrop · 13/11/2024 15:15

I visited a Hotel Chocolat café today, thinking we would be safe from pet dogs. However, shortly after we ordered and sat down, a dog and its owner entered the café. They sat next to us, and when the dog shook itself off and hair flew into my cup of tea and onto the staff who were cleaning the tables. No doubt microscopic dander too. It was quite unpleasant. I can't help but wonder how many customers have unknowingly eaten hair and other debris on their food and drinks directly from dogs, not just directly from pet owners, double whamy. Needless to say, we decided to leave. I also suffer from pet allergies, so I spent the next couple of hours sneezing and coughing.

Tia86 · 13/11/2024 15:09

Totally agree. Also think it's down to the owners and staff. One cafe owner went over to a sleeping dog, woke them up to smooth them, take photos to show they are dog friendly to post on social media and then went back to serving customers without washing their hands 🤮
Totally unnecessary!

zeibesaffron · 13/11/2024 14:38

I have 2 dogs and I agree with you OP; the only place I find I don’t mind it is the outdoor cafe at our local park.

RachTheAlpaca · 13/11/2024 14:29

Yeah I don't like it either, maybe it wouldn't be so bad if people were better owners and trained their dogs to behave. I'm fed up of people letting their wet/muddy/boisterous dogs jump all over me without a second thought.

Julimia · 13/11/2024 14:12

The owner should have been banned there. Not the dog's fault

Pusheen467 · 13/11/2024 14:00

YeOldeGreyhound · 13/11/2024 13:51

I might not notice my own dog smells, but I notice other people's. It depends on the breed. Some breeds smell more than others.

I viewed a house last year and the owner had two Shih Tzus. The house absolutely REEKED of wet dog and my then five year old DD said "It smells funny in here". Mortified. I think it was the throws on the sofas that mainly smelled because the dogs weren't even in the room.

My mum has a long haired toy dog and within two days of my mum adopting her she was the world's cleanest smelling dog 😂

My boss used to have a springer spaniel and he reeked even after coming back from the groomers. I. Think the smell does depend on the breed/if the dog gets wet outdoors/how often the dog and bedding is washed etc

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/11/2024 13:55

While I’d agree that shops are inappropriate, although dogless myself, I’d choose a dog friendly cafe or pub over a no-dogs one any day.

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