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To dislike the increase in dogs in shops/cafes

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amymel2016 · 10/11/2024 18:07

I’ve recently noticed a huge increase in non-service dogs in cafes and shops. I was in Joules earlier today and there were 3 in there, two of which were barking and growling at each other. I was in a cafe last week with 2 in there. Surely it can’t be fun for the dog having to sit under a cramped table?

I’m very allergic to dogs and the smell absolutely sets me on edge. I don’t understand why they are allowed in? I’m not about to walk in with a cat or a rabbit so why dogs? It’s also the attitude of most (sweeping generalisation!) dog owners which annoys me, no, I don’t want to talk to your dog or about your dog. I don’t care if you say he’s friendly I don’t want it anywhere near me.

Goes without saying that service dogs are bloody amazing and they should absolutely be welcome everywhere.

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northernsouldownsouth · 11/11/2024 06:23

I don't mind the odd pub dog but I will not go in a cafe or restaurant if they let in dogs. I just don't like dogs very much

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 11/11/2024 06:21

Not all dogs smell. You've made another sweeping generalisation
Children are also noisy, screaming at nothing or each other, play under tables and runaround hysterically.
Dogs are more likely to be better behaved

AngeloMysterioso · 11/11/2024 06:15

There’s pretty much nowhere in my town that you can’t take dogs now. Dogs in Fenwicks, dogs in the library, dogs in every pub and coffee shop. There’s a great play cafe near me that has loads of toys for children to play with and a really good kids menu, but it’s near a big playing field so you get loads of people taking their dogs in there after walks. Somebody actually had one in a high chair last time we went.

They aren’t allowed in the grounds of DS’s school so instead you have to walk past a load of them right outside the gate, barking and snapping at each other. They’re bloody everywhere.

Lifestooshort71 · 11/11/2024 05:43

YANBU. I was in a dog-friendly cafe couple of years back and a tall greyhound-type was being walked past my low coffee table when out popped a long tongue and it snaffled my toastie of the plate. Instead of being totally mortified, the owner said 'Whoops, do you want to order another one and I'll pay for it?'. Nope, I want you to make a serious abject apology in front of everyone, pay for the one I didn't get to eat and then leave, cowering with embarrassment. No more dog cafes for me!

pimlicopubber · 11/11/2024 05:10

PinkiOcelot · 10/11/2024 18:37

I wouldn’t take a dog shopping. Maybe if I was just popping in for something quick, but not actually shopping.

I did take her to a pub yesterday when I met my friends for lunch. She just lay asleep in her blanket. No bother.

I haven’t had her that long and was never bothered by dogs in cafes etc. we’re all different I suppose.

How big is your dog?
Might be no bother for you, but just last week I took my children out for a meal and a group with a dog came and sat next to us. My daughter has been attacked by a dog in a park ("we also have children", "he's never behaved like this" and so on, said the dog owner...) in the past, so we had a very uncomfortable rest of the meal. The dog wasn't large but still heavier than her. She was scared of going to the bathroom and I had to hold my small son as well. We're not even allergic. There are literally no child friendly dog free spaces around us. We're happy with friends' dogs but definitely not with random ones.

Copperoliverbear · 11/11/2024 03:46

I would take my dog everywhere if I could he is my companion and is never left alone.

BlueCupOrangeCup · 11/11/2024 02:49

I was in a café this morning.

Lots of dogs happily sleeping/sitting/laying under tables at owners' feet not bothering anyone.

Children running up and down the stairs shiriekng...loudly. For longer than a dog's bark.

I know which one I'd rather.

I'm not sorry.

Popcorn63 · 11/11/2024 02:29

We have two labrador dogs - big, hairy, usually muddy and they love everyone.
No way would I inflict them on the unsuspecting general public! 😆😆

Pusheen467 · 10/11/2024 23:41

Fountofwisdom · 10/11/2024 23:33

I do not go to any business serving food if they permit dogs. It’s totally unhygienic. I wouldn’t knowingly patronise any dog-friendly business to be honest. I’m scared of dogs and resent the fact that dog owners assume everyone wants to fawn over their pets. It seems to have become the norm for trendy hairdressers to have the owner’s dog permanently in situ, which I also find bizarre. I’ve not returned to 2 hairdressers for that reason in the past year or so. It’s yet another example of selfish entitlement by certain groups of people.

I used to be one of those selfish and entitled owners when I was in my early/mid 20s. I used to take them everywhere and even sneak them into shopping centres.

I feel embarrassed about that now. I still love dogs and make a huge fuss of them if they approach me but I've realised that it's fine if other people don't feel that way and I've also realised how unhealthy it is for people to treat dogs like human babies.

Pusheen467 · 10/11/2024 23:35

NPET · 10/11/2024 23:30

Yuck.

Are you saying yuck because you disliked my sarcasm, at the people who use those terms or because you thought j was being serious?

Fountofwisdom · 10/11/2024 23:33

I do not go to any business serving food if they permit dogs. It’s totally unhygienic. I wouldn’t knowingly patronise any dog-friendly business to be honest. I’m scared of dogs and resent the fact that dog owners assume everyone wants to fawn over their pets. It seems to have become the norm for trendy hairdressers to have the owner’s dog permanently in situ, which I also find bizarre. I’ve not returned to 2 hairdressers for that reason in the past year or so. It’s yet another example of selfish entitlement by certain groups of people.

Spotsmum · 10/11/2024 23:32

Honestly, you're being insufferable.

NPET · 10/11/2024 23:30

Pusheen467 · 10/11/2024 18:36

YABVVU OP. All the Dog Mums and Dog Dads can't possibly be expected to leave their fur babies at home.

Yuck.

Pickandmixmood · 10/11/2024 23:27

IKEAJesus · 10/11/2024 23:25

Can’t you just take a sandwich with you, or go to one of the hundreds of cafes that allow dogs?

Of course I can and I do because I have to. I would prefer to have the option to pop into the supermarket with my smelly, diseased hound though

IKEAJesus · 10/11/2024 23:25

Pickandmixmood · 10/11/2024 23:24

I wish more shops would take dogs. If I take my dog out for the day on my own I would like to be able to go into a supermarket to pick up a sandwich for lunch. It isn’t an option to leave the dog tied up outside these days due to thieving bastards.

Can’t you just take a sandwich with you, or go to one of the hundreds of cafes that allow dogs?

Pickandmixmood · 10/11/2024 23:24

I wish more shops would take dogs. If I take my dog out for the day on my own I would like to be able to go into a supermarket to pick up a sandwich for lunch. It isn’t an option to leave the dog tied up outside these days due to thieving bastards.

Jaehee · 10/11/2024 23:16

If I want to go somewhere I know dogs won't be then I choose somewhere that the business owner hasn't decided they can be.

I was trawling google maps earlier for dog free cafes as I was trying to find somewhere to meet a friend, and all of them said they were dog friendly in the descriptions. I typed 'Dog free cafes [my city]' into google and all I got were pages and pages of dog friendly places. I tried again with 'Cafes that don't allow dogs [my city] and got the same. Finally I tried '"dog free" and "dog-free" cafes [my county] and only one came up as it was mentioned in a review, but unfortunately it's 30 miles away. All the cafes I already know in my city welcome dogs. I genuinely have no idea how to find a dog free cafe. If you know how I can find one then please tell me, it would be really helpful.

StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 23:15

tillytoodles1 · 10/11/2024 21:41

Do you think they care about allergies or people who don't want dogs near them for whatever reason? They're a business, out to make money and that's it.

That wasn’t, in fact, a judgement on the business owners.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 10/11/2024 23:07

Maverickess · 10/11/2024 21:10

Was it an open kitchen type of place?

No it wasn't and I'm sure you're going to say how do I know she didn't wash her hands. I don't know, but I did just see her touching a dog so that's where I draw the line.

moderndilemma · 10/11/2024 23:05

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Milkand2sugarsplease · 10/11/2024 22:57

Can't get worked up about it to be honest.

If I want to go somewhere I know dogs won't be then I choose somewhere that the business owner hasn't decided they can be.

I wouldn't go to someones house and expect them to remove their dog for me, similarly if I go to a cafe who's owner allows dogs, I expect there will be customers who have taken up the offer of allowing dogs. I don't have to engage with any of them and I'm also free to choose somewhere else that doesn't allow them.

Lidlisthebusiness · 10/11/2024 22:32

I was in a cafe today and a family came in with 2 small dogs, one who made the strangest of noises. Then, another couple bought their dog in, who apparently didn't like other dogs being there and all the yapping started. I had to raise my voice to speak to my children، who were at the same table as me to be heard over the noise. I don't want to have to shout at whoever I'm eating with!

Then, on a FB group I'm on a woman was mortally offended that she was asked to leave Primark after she took her Dachshund in there. A breed notorious for using anywhere but the right place outside to toilet. Then there's the fur، licking, dander, smell. Just no.

I say all this as the owner of 2 dogs, they shouldn't be in these places.

Prescottdanni123 · 10/11/2024 22:16

kitsuneghost · 10/11/2024 19:45

The big problem is finding dog free cafes. Unless you are local and you know, or sit and phone all cafes (which is a pain when you are hungry) you could very well be mid-lunch and then one gets brought in.
BTW, Google doesn't work.

If you want a strictly dog free cafe, ask a member of staff when you go in? If you are holidaying or on a day trip to a new area, ask on local Facebook pages. One of the locals will know of some places.

Jaehee · 10/11/2024 22:16

PyreneanAubrie · 10/11/2024 22:13

Mine doesn't sleep on the bed... the bed isn't big enough for her and us 😆

This is why I'm single. My cat sleeps on the bed. The bed isn't big enough for a boyfriend too.

PyreneanAubrie · 10/11/2024 22:13

PixieMcGraw · 10/11/2024 22:11

Great idea! My dog sleeps on my bed 😮I imagine that has aromatherapy properties for a lovely night of sleep!

Mine doesn't sleep on the bed... the bed isn't big enough for her and us 😆

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