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To wonder if you could be with someone who has different political beliefs to you?

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MyPithyTurtle · 10/11/2024 17:30

I’m talking about things like Labour vs. Conservative, or vice versa. Obviously, I know people have different views, but could you be in a relationship where your political opinions are at opposite ends of the spectrum? Would it cause too much tension, or is it possible to have a healthy relationship despite the differences? What do you think?

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John451 · 10/11/2024 19:21

Mozartine · 10/11/2024 17:36

I couldn’t abide anyone who thought trans women were actual women. That’s non starter for me.

😂 nice segue there

maddening · 10/11/2024 19:20

Political view yes no problem- extremists possibly not but more due to the kind of mindset that is extreme is likely to be unpleasant to live with - whether that is religious, conspiracy theorists, Activists etc the more extreme the less likely

UnimaginableWindBird · 10/11/2024 19:19

I think that sharing a life with someone who has very different values from you is generally a bad idea. That might be in terms of party politics, or attitudes to spending/saving, or division of household household labour, or how to raise and discipline children, or how involved you should be with your wider family, or whether it's more important to spend time at your job or with your kids, or even what table manners or hygiene standards are appropriate at home.

People can have similar values but end up supporting different parties because they want a similar ultimate outcome but would go about achieving that in different ways, and if they both think that the ultimate outcome is more important than how you get there, then those party politically differences aren't necessarily a big deal.

GetOffTheCounter · 10/11/2024 19:19

I was always pretty solid Labour. DH was emphatically Tory. But our core values match. We both believe the State should protect the vulnerable. That people should have the freedom to live as they see fit as long as it does not harm others. We both agree that political discourse should be conducted respectfully - which is sorely missing right now. He voted for Brexit, me Remain. We are both anti racism. But we may disagree over what political party is the best for that. Over time (24 years) I think we have both moved the other closer to the Left/Right. Although we both certainly agree that the Tories were a shit show and this current Labour party will be worse. So I guess we have moved away from tribal politics and being a rusted on party supporter.

Politically homeless then I guess.

bryceQ · 10/11/2024 19:17

I should say though my husband has a strong Christian faith and it's very important in his life. I have an ethical code myself but I'm not religious.

Hemiola · 10/11/2024 19:16

No, I couldn't personally. Most of my friends are the opposite political persuasion to me and I think it's good to not be in an echo chamber. However as a partner, I wanted my dh to be on the same page in our beliefs and values as I think it means we're united in how we raise our family. If I were not having kids though, or meeting someone later in life I think I'd be less bothered.

bryceQ · 10/11/2024 19:16

I don't think so.... I feel like it informs so much about the way you view other people, we just wouldn't be compatible.

olivehater · 10/11/2024 19:16

I have on occasion voted differently from my husband. Never been an issue, We are both center waverers though. I guess a die hard lefty and staunch conservative might struggle with different values in the long term.

Liesmorelies · 10/11/2024 19:14

Someone who voted for other left-leaning parties? Yes. Someone who was right-wing? No. It's a completely different outlook on the world and there would be so much conflict and disagreement. It's about values and they need to be aligned in a successful relationship, especially if you are bringing up children together.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 10/11/2024 19:10

It depends on what the differences actually were really and how reasonable the other person was about them.

Some people have brought up the trans issue - someone being either a TRA or genuinely transphobic (for clarity - being GC does not mean you're transphobic!) would not sit well with me.

another1bitestheduck · 10/11/2024 19:01

Depends what the values are, surely?

Differing views on the economy or how to manage immigration or green policy, fine.
If they legitimately thought, for example, gay people aren't entitled to the same rights as straight, (or a racism/disabled/other equivalent), then no.

If they thought the abortion term should be shortened and could back it up with fair reasons, fine. If they disagreed with abortion at all, I could only consider that as saying they legitimately believe women shouldn't have autonomy over their own bodies, and then, no, that's not something I could 'agree to disagree' about.

Ultimately relationships should be based on respect and I wouldn't be with someone I didn't respect.
Respect doesn't have to mean agreement, and I wouldn't expect to agree with a partner on everything.
But there are some opinions I don't think are worthy of respect in a modern/democratic society so no, I wouldn't want to be with someone who held them.

SweetBobby · 10/11/2024 18:54

Depends on what the belief is.

Like PP I absolutely could not be friends with a person who thinks 'transwomen' are women. I also couldn't be friends with anyone who cont

But even though I'm extremely pro-life, I have many pro-choice friends.

I'm most likely not to be friends with someone who believes all the political propaganda they see/hear/read as they're usually insufferable and thick.

CaptainMyCaptain · 10/11/2024 18:45

2Sensitive · 10/11/2024 17:48

Ever heard of
"Agree to disagree"
It's a thing mature adults do.

That's OK to an extent with friends and acquaintances but not with a partner. I couldn't be with someone who voted Tory or Reform as it would be so opposed to my beliefs. I could cope with Green or Lib Dem. I couldn't even be friends with anyone who was racist or homophonic.

WaitingForMojo · 10/11/2024 18:41

Voting differently, yes. I’ve voted for different parties in my time. But wouldn’t want to be romantically involved with a Tory or UKIPer.

housemaus · 10/11/2024 18:40

Nah I don't think so, although it depends. Differing views on post-EU trade policies? Not an issue. Opposite ends of the spectrum on social issues? Probably a non-starter, because it probably means we have quite different values, and why would I be in a relationship with someone whose values weren't at least somewhat aligned with my own?

WaitingForMojo · 10/11/2024 18:39

Depends whether we disagree on whether sixteen year olds should have the vote, say, or something fundamental to human decency. Racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism - deal breakers.

yorktown · 10/11/2024 18:34

Absolutely fine to have friends with different views and can be respectful of that. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone with fundamentally different view though.

BlastedPimples · 10/11/2024 18:28

I could as long as they weren't racist. Or snooty.

TidyDancer · 10/11/2024 18:25

Mozartine · 10/11/2024 17:36

I couldn’t abide anyone who thought trans women were actual women. That’s non starter for me.

Completely agree with this tbh. In situations where's there's a clear right and wrong rather than just a difference of opinion, I don't think it would be possible to stay with a partner on the opposite side.

Kool4katz · 10/11/2024 18:23

No, definitely not. We were both very politically active in our younger years (left wing) although only met when we were much older and happened to live in the same area.

Whilst I have several very right wing friends whose company I enjoy, I could never be romantically involved with someone who admires politicians like Thatcher or her disastrous policies. 🤷🏻‍♀️

SensibleSigma · 10/11/2024 18:16

The different parties tend to agree on wanting less poverty and a better way of life, but disagree on how to achieve it. So there’s no reason to avoid people with different politics. It saddens me people think there is. It smacks of being a victim of brainwashing.

Personally my politics has changed over the years.
To stay the same would suggest I hadn’t learned anything new from experience.

Meadowfinch · 10/11/2024 18:12

Within reason, yes of course.

But I couldn't respect someone with views I think as cruel or regressive.

CallMeCrazyButIDontLikeStoreBoughtPesto · 10/11/2024 18:12

DP never votes and whilst I think it's ridiculous for an adult to have no say in the country they live in, it's his choice and his values align with mine. Mostly. There are big things that we disagree on politically but if we agreed on everything, what would we talk about?! I prefer to spend time with people that have opposing views. Where's the fun and lessons in an echo chamber?

AnonKat · 10/11/2024 18:07

My husband I voted differentl, but agree on alot of things. Never argued, but have lots of debates. We did vote the same this time, which is new!

eatyourtoast · 10/11/2024 18:01

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