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DP's son making me feel like I'm in a relationship with both of them

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Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 11:33

I hope this is in the right place. Have been with DP for 5 years. He has a 12 year old son who has always lived with him. I moved in around 1 year ago. Before I moved in my relationship with DP's son was manageable. I was like an aunt or a teacher or another influential adult in his life. But since I've moved in, my DP's son has been acting in a way that would suggest he doesn't quite understand the dynamic in the house.

For example, the other day I made myself and my DP a cup of tea and gave him a biscuit with it. His son then started asking why he wasn't also offered a biscuit- I told him he's free to take a biscuit if he wants it. In the morning on my days off I'll ask my DP what he fancies for breakfast. If DP's son is there, he'll get upset and make a point about me not asking or including him (of course I'd make everyone's breakfast in such a situation not just my DP). The dynamic is making me feel very uncomfortable.

He'll insert himself into adult conversations that don't concern him, so much so that we have to be careful what we say infront of him. He seems always to have an opinion about adult issues (mortgages, cars, medical issues) that he knows nothing about, and will offer them when me and DP are in the middle of an important discussion.

I'm probably not explaining it well. It just feels like my DP's son expects me to be treating him like another DP/exactly like his father and not the child that he is and it's creating this weird atmosphere where I cannot be myself and exist in a romantic relation with my DP.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? Is this normal?

OP posts:
Elliania · 11/11/2024 23:11

T1Dmama · 11/11/2024 23:06

I would expect to offer both my DP & any other people in a room a drink/ biscuit …
it’s rude to only offer one person a drink and not another….
I think what you describe IS you excluding the boy… would you cook only for DP & expect the boy to get his own? You either offer everyone a drink, or no-one… it’s surely basic manners??

But his son wasn't IN the room. He was in a different room and wasn't present when tea/biscuits were made & offered.

T1Dmama · 11/11/2024 23:06

I would expect to offer both my DP & any other people in a room a drink/ biscuit …
it’s rude to only offer one person a drink and not another….
I think what you describe IS you excluding the boy… would you cook only for DP & expect the boy to get his own? You either offer everyone a drink, or no-one… it’s surely basic manners??

GreenSkyes · 11/11/2024 23:02

Did I read that you and your DP have been together 5 years? Surely you must have had some sort of a relationship with his son before you moved in?
You need to include him in basic things, asking if he wants a drink and giving him a biscuit, asking about what food he wants is pretty basic. It seems like you're unintentionally leaving him out.
Speak to dp about your bedroom being for adults only, about you needing a space that's just yours to go to if needed.
12 is a weird age and they're finding themselves, pushing boundaries. Remember he's now sharing his dad, this will be a significant adjustment for him.
Let him get involved with conversations. He's learning and wanting to engage, if it's too adult or private, don't have it when he's there.

dontcryformeargentina · 11/11/2024 22:57

tashac89 · 10/11/2024 11:40

For nearly his whole life it has been just him and his dad. The conversations where he is chiming in, he was probably used to discussing all sorts with his father. You've moved into this young boys home, taken a lot of the downtime he would normally have with his dad and expect what? For him to quietly sit in the corner?

As for the other examples you've given, he is not looking to be treated like a partner. He is looking to be treated like part of the family. He lives there too.

Exactly. I feel sorry for him. His dad made a wrong choice

Trapunt0 · 11/11/2024 22:53

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 15:49

I think I've realised 3 issues here:

Firstly my DP has different expectations of him in that he's happy for his son to interupt him even when DP is talking to other adults/is on the phone. He doesn't get annoyed like about me this behaviour. He also doesn't mind him staying up, or hanging out in my bedroom. I can't help it but these things bother me.

Secondly, my DP and his son have plenty of 1 on 1 time. They have activities together 4-5 days a week. And his son stays up until midnight most nights so the second issue is that I feel I don't have enough time with his father. I'm left being the person who gets them biscuits and cooks and cleans for them. We rarely spend time as a 3 anymore too after I moved in.

And finally, the third issue is that I'm losing my patience and begining to question my place in the house given the the aforementioned points. This isn't healthy for the boy, and I think it's better I continue my relationship with his father while not living with them. My DP had more time for me, and I didn't have to worry about parenting his son before I moved in. But also, I've realised I need my space and my privacy and that will always be tricky living full time with a 12 year old child.

Thanks again for all the responses.

Edited

I think you're probably right, you'd all have better relationships when living in your own spaces

Franjipanl8r · 11/11/2024 22:48

You seem to have missed out the massively important part of any childhood is LEARNING how to grow up. This child is desperate for interaction and guidance. He needs to be shown and taught how to interact socially.

You and your partner don’t seem to be teaching this child the social skills he needs.

Trapunt0 · 11/11/2024 22:38

He's 12, he's neither fish nor fowl and is working out where he fits in. At 12 many kids (not all) know they are leaving childhood behind so he's trying, badly, to fit in with the next stage.
Your private conversations need to take place in private, do things as a family that embrace him as a young adult.

Dpmn553 · 11/11/2024 22:30

There are other things that have happened and I've constantly been second guessing myself not knowing what's normal. I'm pretty certain I am ND but I've managed to set up my life to compensate for the things I find difficult wrt employment and my relationships; that is until I moved in with my DP who really is my world- I was in a dark place before I met him, and I owe him loads.

DP's son once told me (not his dad) that he's heard us having sex the morning after. He once asked me when we last had sex. This was very soon after I moved in and my DP has spoken about it and such comments have since stopped. We travelled together once and he had a tantrum about me and DP sharing the double bed. It's frustrating not being able to explain the discomfort properly without conveying entirely the wrong picture. But I have a need to be comfortable in my own home. I don't dislike DP's son at all, and we had a much better relationship before I moved in- hopefully we can get back to this.

As I have said, my decision is made and I am not one to go back once I have made a decision. Just finding the right time and the right words. Hopefully my relationship with DP will survive this.

OP posts:
Userxyd · 11/11/2024 22:29

Only thought I'd add is that if you stay in this relationship you'll end up much closer to DSS eventually and just be sure you don't look back with regret at not making the most of his innocent days while he was young. My DSS was a typical 12 year old like yours and we've always got on well but in those days like you I didn't want to step on anyone's toes or what have you. In hindsight I wish I'd been more forthcoming with him, reading him a story, taking him out to kick a ball about etc - he's a lovely young man and I miss the days of him being a chirpy lad piping up at the wrong time!

Longsight2019 · 11/11/2024 22:23

Include the poor lad. When you got together with a father you needed to accept his set up. His priorities.

I hope your partner pulls you up when you exclude his son.

CheekyHobson · 11/11/2024 22:22

In the weeks after I moved in, he made me get up from the dining table whilst we were eating dinner to get him a glass of water.

Who “made you” do this and how did they “make you” do it?

Oreyt · 11/11/2024 22:21

@Dishwashersaurous

Maybe talk to your partner and explain that
You need quality time with him, and just him 2 or three nights a week.

You can't do that when you have kids.

IOSTT · 11/11/2024 22:14

OP, I wouldn’t worry that any of this means you’re ND or not suited to motherhood. Moving into a home and being expected to fit in with two other (male) people’s behaviour would be difficult for anyone. Ignore the pps with a chip on their shoulder who seem to think ALL stepmothers must be evil. You sound like a decent and normal person, in a difficult situation. Sounds like you have made a sensible decision choosing to move out. Best of luck 💐

ps to the pp who said it’s normal for her dd to walk into her bedroom without knocking, that is NOT the same as having a 12 year old stepson walking into the bedroom without knocking.

andthat · 11/11/2024 22:14

Op it’s clear from the way you write that you have no understanding of children.

This is a child who is adjusting to a new family dynamic. He needs reassurance that his place in the family unit is secure.

as a PP said… you’re the outsider. You’ve chosen fo live with a man that had a child. You need to put the effort in with that child to build your relationship and ensure he feels secure. And yes, that includes giving him a biscuit when you offer his dad one!!

Toddlertantrums222 · 11/11/2024 22:13

Leave him and his dad alone. It’s clear you don’t like him, and he would’ve picked up on this, hence wanting to be around his dad all the time.

lunar1 · 11/11/2024 22:08

Dpmn553 · 11/11/2024 20:38

He gets a snack tray made up by me most nights, with a selection of fruits biscuits and savoury snacks. He is not deprived of biscuits so please don't be worried for him.

In the weeks after I moved in, he made me get up from the dining table whilst we were eating dinner to get him a glass of water. Not knowing what's normal, although taken a back slightly, I did this for a while before telling my DP I felt uncomfortable with it being a frequent request whilst we were sat having dinner, and with the kitchen and dining room being open plan, he could have easily gone himself.

I haven't articulated this well, and as I said I might be struggling to relate to him, so I deserve all the comments I'm getting. I will be discussing my moving with DP in the coming days.

Edited

Nobody is worried about his lack of biscuits, we are worried about him being sidelined in his home, his family with his dad. You are treating him like an outsider.

I've read so odd things on here over the years, but this is one of the strangest and unhealthy attitudes to a step child I've seen in a long time.

JoBrandsCleaner · 11/11/2024 22:07

You need to stand him in the corner with a big hat on with a D on it, throw a board rubber at him and explain to him that he shouldn’t even be seen never mind heard. Alternatively you could move back out and leave this family alone.

Londonrach1 · 11/11/2024 21:57

If you making tea and biscuits for your dp why not bring a drink and a biscuit for his son at the same time. Yabu in this example. Unless a back story

Sawlt · 11/11/2024 21:55

Dpmn553 · 11/11/2024 20:38

He gets a snack tray made up by me most nights, with a selection of fruits biscuits and savoury snacks. He is not deprived of biscuits so please don't be worried for him.

In the weeks after I moved in, he made me get up from the dining table whilst we were eating dinner to get him a glass of water. Not knowing what's normal, although taken a back slightly, I did this for a while before telling my DP I felt uncomfortable with it being a frequent request whilst we were sat having dinner, and with the kitchen and dining room being open plan, he could have easily gone himself.

I haven't articulated this well, and as I said I might be struggling to relate to him, so I deserve all the comments I'm getting. I will be discussing my moving with DP in the coming days.

Edited

Why not put water on the table, or a jug. Or give him the job of water on the table. Maybe he is feeling that he cannot just get up and get a water without upsetting you …
please let him know he can help in the kitchen.

The things that trouble you are so “not” issues

SamVan · 11/11/2024 21:41

It sounds like he wants you to treat him like your son and doesn’t realize you’re only interested in his father, not him. I think you need to adjust your expectations though - this is what you have to deal with when you move in with a man and his child. If you want to just be in a love bubble with your other half either date someone without a child or stay separately and just have him visit alone.

formerbrosfan · 11/11/2024 21:37

Just the fact that you say ‘I went to get a glass of water and when I got back, he was asleep next to MY husband’ says everything about your mindset. He is first and foremost HIS Father, he was before you and he always will be.

This is the basis of where you should start all family dynamics.

I say this as both a step child (I lived with a step mum) and as a step parent of some 30 years (my husband had two young children when we met) I’ve always made sure that my husband spends quality time (without me) with our children (we have one child together too), pizza nights, Xmas shopping together, holidays, go carting, meals out. I levelled myself as their Dad’s wife (not Stepmum) I am always available if they need me but I never ever interfere in their relationship with their Dad. It has served us well and when we are all together I feel proud that we have managed to create this family together (this makes it sound smug and easy, it wasn’t!!!!) Aim for harmony not control. He won’t be in your home forever but he will be in your life for as long as you are with his Father. Xxx

coldcallerbaiter · 11/11/2024 21:35

Aliceinmotherland1 · 11/11/2024 20:34

I’m confused - you call him your husband here? But you always refer to the boy as your DP’s son. So he’s your step-son? Married or not to be honest if you’re living with him he’s your step son - and he’s probably dealing with an awful lot adjusting to this new home-life. You sound very disassociated from him - I feel really sorry for the child.

He is not her step son! She is not married to his father.

Partner is used interchangeably with bf and then also with husband by people but being married and an in-law is a legal as well as an actual definition.

DearDenimEagle · 11/11/2024 21:33

I’d say, I’m making a cuppa, does anyone else want anything to drink and a biscuit ? Who wants what for breakfast? If the boy is upstairs I would call his name and ask the question. That’s what I did with mine. That deals with 2 points. The lad probably has little experience of the family dynamic. He’s got adjustments to make, too, and nothing to base it on.
On the plus side for OP, in 3 or 4 years, he will be out with his pals and finding girlfriends rather than wanting to hang with Dad. His absences will get longer.

Crakajak · 11/11/2024 21:25

Calliopespa · 11/11/2024 21:18

… or mumsnet. Like us . 😂

Edited

Or OP could just be normal and stop overthinking. Look if my DP asked to get a drink I might ir not depending...how they ask how often etc etc....it's called life. If DSS asks just play it by ear buy if your DP to you is serious you'd learn...it's nit too difficult

Jom222 · 11/11/2024 21:23

Autumn38 · 11/11/2024 17:57

If I tried to offer my DH a biscuit without also offering my kids one they would not be happy!

in my family and growing up, you offer something to everyone in the house or no one.

a cup of tea/drink should be offered to anyone present. Ditto biscuits etc

its also normal for kids to listen in to adult conversations so yes sensitive things need to be discussed when they aren’t there.

you’ve described a very normal 12 year old.

but the kid wasn't around when OP went to make tea. Was she supposed to go hunting for him? I agree if the boy was in nearby public rooms one would offer him a cookie but if he's in his bedroom on another floor is OP supposed to go tap on the door and say hi here's a cookie? Thats a bit much isn't it?

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