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DP's son making me feel like I'm in a relationship with both of them

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Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 11:33

I hope this is in the right place. Have been with DP for 5 years. He has a 12 year old son who has always lived with him. I moved in around 1 year ago. Before I moved in my relationship with DP's son was manageable. I was like an aunt or a teacher or another influential adult in his life. But since I've moved in, my DP's son has been acting in a way that would suggest he doesn't quite understand the dynamic in the house.

For example, the other day I made myself and my DP a cup of tea and gave him a biscuit with it. His son then started asking why he wasn't also offered a biscuit- I told him he's free to take a biscuit if he wants it. In the morning on my days off I'll ask my DP what he fancies for breakfast. If DP's son is there, he'll get upset and make a point about me not asking or including him (of course I'd make everyone's breakfast in such a situation not just my DP). The dynamic is making me feel very uncomfortable.

He'll insert himself into adult conversations that don't concern him, so much so that we have to be careful what we say infront of him. He seems always to have an opinion about adult issues (mortgages, cars, medical issues) that he knows nothing about, and will offer them when me and DP are in the middle of an important discussion.

I'm probably not explaining it well. It just feels like my DP's son expects me to be treating him like another DP/exactly like his father and not the child that he is and it's creating this weird atmosphere where I cannot be myself and exist in a romantic relation with my DP.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? Is this normal?

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WinterBones · 22/11/2024 13:22

A lot of this is what MN tends to put as "you have a DP problem"

He ought to be parenting his son and nipping some of this behaviour in the bud, and you need to be stricter with making it clear to him and his son what you will/won't tolerate. If DP doesn't want to step up and deal with it, then feel free to deal with it yourself and tell that child to stop it, butt out, and mind his own business.

NO PARENT would tolerate that crap, none, and DP is being ridiculous and clearly not parenting either.

That being said.

Stop making him elaborate time consuming breakfast. You handle that little game with "What would you like for breakfast? Option A, or Option B?" and you make sure they're both things you're willing to make, don't give him free reign to choose whatever, give him options.

AnotherDayComeMonday · 22/11/2024 13:19

Op you said about the breakfasts and getting up 30 mins earlier to make them:
But I'd do this for my own son so I'm expected to do this for my partner's so
Absolutely not! My DC is 7 and has huge pride in making her own breakfast- cereal or fruit and toast. Stop making his breakfast! A bowl of cereal OK, but do not get up 30 mins earlier to make him a lavish breakfast. Stoo this from tomorrow.

Bigcat25 · 22/11/2024 13:00

I know you're leaving anyway, but I'd stop the 30 min breakfasts unless it's a weekend treat. His dad should be stopping him from interfering with your adult time with friends. Sorry op, it's not your fault.

DearDenimEagle · 22/11/2024 12:47

My children grew up with adults, rather than other children, They would make jokes and sometimes seem over familiar Insofar as one would not expect a child to speak so to an adult. However, they were also trained in manners. They would not have felt entitled to go through phones, demand someone make a breakfast specially…or if they did, they would accept an ‘Im not doing that today, pick something simpler and I’ll do a big cooked breakfast when I have more time another day. ‘
The problems with the stepson seem to have escalated since the OP . Those seemed pretty minor but the latest update made my hackles rise. I think that is not acceptable to parents, or guests or stepparents. He sounds like my grandson, also adult orientated, but with a keen mind that surprised me even at a year old. His comprehension, picking up nuances and humour were way ahead of his years. He could make witty rejoinders, not childlike but with adult understanding. He can also be very manipulative and turn situations to his advantage. He doesn’t get away with it. We are used to his attempts and he is not permitted to take undue liberties. Kindly with explanations but he knows we were children once and have learned all the lines he will try to pull. He might suggest where he’d like us to eat, if it’s under discussion, but will accept a different venue without demur. I can’t see him having an opinion on homewares unless for his room.

Since you are the one who moved in and his father doesn’t appear to be parenting the boy appropriately, I think you’re doing the right thing moving out.

A relationship with a parent is a relationship with their child/ren but it can and should be minus the sarcasm and snooping.

Secretgarden27 · 22/11/2024 12:26

God I’m not surprised you find all that intolerable OP, I would too.

I wouldn’t want my own daughter when she’s 12 to be going through my personal documents willy nilly and not be able to have a private conversation without her butting in. He sounds really irritating in general tbh. I massively sympathise with him having to deal with his dad’s partner moving in, I’ve been there and it really is horrible at first. But some of his behaviour is unacceptable and your partner sounds incredibly wet when it comes to his son.

it’s a no from me, you’ll be so much happier once you’ve moved out!

ETA- If the relationship survives and at some point you want to move back in, I’d wait until he’s off to uni or flown the nest!

lizzyBennet08 · 22/11/2024 12:11

Op
I'm glad that you've made a decision that's right for you. Hopefully trust your dp can see that you've tried and will support you in this.
It might do your relationship the power of good if your dp has to make more of an effort.
12 year old know it alls can be annoying even to their parents who love them , to relative strangers they can be irritating in the extreme and it's fine you don't want to share your space with one!

EdnaTheWitch · 22/11/2024 11:33

It’s not normal, as in your interpretation is not normal. I really can’t understand why you’d exclude him, or indeed anyone, in that situation to be honest. Moving in is a big adjustment for all of you to make.
But you really need to be honest with yourself about what your wants, needs and expectations are here…what’s ’the romantic relationship’ you refer to? Do you want to just be a couple? Or do you want to be part of a family? The latter is your only option with this man. And buckle up, because teenagers are hard work!

Dpmn553 · 22/11/2024 11:30

MummyJ36 · 22/11/2024 11:12

Have you told DP that you’re moving out? I think in light of your recent updates it’s definitely for the best that you’re going. For whatever reason DP’s son seems like he’s trying to make your life as hard as possible and testing to see how far he can push you. I don’t think this is going to be a worker for anyone. Are you intending to stay in a relationship with DP once you move out?

I don't even think he deliberately trying to make my life hard. Whenever I bring him up on stuff, most of the time he apologies. I think he just can't help it. He expects to be treated as an adult - to choose where we eat, to chime in with an option about homewares, to read confidential paperwork I've left in the printer. I understand where it's coming from (I think) and I'm not underestimating the enormity of dealing with me moving in. But some days it's genuinely intolerable.

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Pupinskipops · 22/11/2024 11:29

Dpmn553 · 22/11/2024 10:24

Thanks for your continued posts. I don't understand how and why the thread keeps going, with most of the new posts the same as previous suggestions that I acknowledged re my incompatibility to exist in a family with children, my unreasonably expectations of a partner with a child, and my inability to provide a welcoming home for my partner's son.

I'm moving out at the end of January (the earliest my house will be available and ready). This has made things easier in some respects knowing I will be leaving here soon, but it hasn't been any easier dealing with my partner's son, and yes it's all my fault- but I'd be grateful for the opportunity to vent here.

He'll ask what is for dinner then criticise my choice of rice or pasta in a tone even my partner would not use with me. Titled head to one said and a sarcastic "really, you want to do that". I've been asking him what he'd like for breakfast in the morning, and while me and my partner usually have quick breakfasts, his son will demand something big and time consuming but of course it's up to me to make it. I've been waking up 30 mins earlier to prepare his desired breakfast so I'm not late for work (DP starts works before me so he can't do it). But I'd do this for my own son so I'm expected to do this for my partner's son. He's was due to spent a few days at his mum's while my partner was working away. So I made plans that involved a few friends visiting me at home (who have met my partner's son and feel uncomfortable since he interupts and involves himself in our conversations so much- we arranged this only because my partner's son was away). DP's son called me on the 2nd day telling me his mum had to go away for a night and she'll be dropping him within the hour. Had to cancel my plans entirely and wait for him. They arrived 6 hours later than they said.

But this is all part and parcel of being romantically tied with a man with a child.

The boy is clearly taking advantage and his dad doesn't seem to be helping. You said you'd do these things for your own child but the bottom line is that when you take on a partner's child you take them on as your own, warts and all. You're not ready to do this - not your fault, it just is what it is - and I think you've made the right decision to move out for your own sanity. I hope things work out better for you that way and I wish you luck with the move.

But I'm concerned about your comment that the child was being critical to you in a tone even your partner would not use towards you. He should not be speaking to you like that either! Is this the problem it sounds like, or has it come across in an unintended way - social media and all that...?

By the way, you can turn off comments if you don't want this thread to go on any longer. Not sure how, but have a fiddle! 😊

MummyJ36 · 22/11/2024 11:12

Have you told DP that you’re moving out? I think in light of your recent updates it’s definitely for the best that you’re going. For whatever reason DP’s son seems like he’s trying to make your life as hard as possible and testing to see how far he can push you. I don’t think this is going to be a worker for anyone. Are you intending to stay in a relationship with DP once you move out?

BIossomtoes · 22/11/2024 11:12

He’s won, hasn’t he? You’ve now given him exactly what he wanted. Every stepchild in the world tests boundaries - I know, I’ve had three for 26 years. Now he’s got his dad and their home to himself again. He must be delighted.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 22/11/2024 10:44

OP no. It's not. Or it shouldn't be. People are not reading your posts properly. If this 12 year old was treating their 12 year old the way he is treating you, the same people would be calling him all sorts of names.
But step mums ALWAYS get a pasting on here. You are doing too much for this boy. Stop indulging him. Stop jumping to his commands. He is enjoying bullying you, and seeing how much he can get away with. Tell him the breakfast kitchen is now closed. I would not do this on a school day for my own kids, you are pandering to him, and it's not good for you or him. He reminds me of those pets behaving badly showed, where the family dog thinks he is in charge, only because the humans have never taught him that he is not.

TunipTheVegimal24 · 22/11/2024 10:43

Sounds like it's for the best op. It might be a relief for you all, once you're out x

CleaningAngel · 22/11/2024 10:43

Dpmn553 · 22/11/2024 10:24

Thanks for your continued posts. I don't understand how and why the thread keeps going, with most of the new posts the same as previous suggestions that I acknowledged re my incompatibility to exist in a family with children, my unreasonably expectations of a partner with a child, and my inability to provide a welcoming home for my partner's son.

I'm moving out at the end of January (the earliest my house will be available and ready). This has made things easier in some respects knowing I will be leaving here soon, but it hasn't been any easier dealing with my partner's son, and yes it's all my fault- but I'd be grateful for the opportunity to vent here.

He'll ask what is for dinner then criticise my choice of rice or pasta in a tone even my partner would not use with me. Titled head to one said and a sarcastic "really, you want to do that". I've been asking him what he'd like for breakfast in the morning, and while me and my partner usually have quick breakfasts, his son will demand something big and time consuming but of course it's up to me to make it. I've been waking up 30 mins earlier to prepare his desired breakfast so I'm not late for work (DP starts works before me so he can't do it). But I'd do this for my own son so I'm expected to do this for my partner's son. He's was due to spent a few days at his mum's while my partner was working away. So I made plans that involved a few friends visiting me at home (who have met my partner's son and feel uncomfortable since he interupts and involves himself in our conversations so much- we arranged this only because my partner's son was away). DP's son called me on the 2nd day telling me his mum had to go away for a night and she'll be dropping him within the hour. Had to cancel my plans entirely and wait for him. They arrived 6 hours later than they said.

But this is all part and parcel of being romantically tied with a man with a child.

You are absolutely doing the right thing I would not put up with that carry on for a minute, sounds like little lord font is running the house!! His father needs to pull him up , I'd cool the relationship when you've moved out

Dpmn553 · 22/11/2024 10:40

I've found him accessing my passpord protected phone (I stupidly gave him my password one time when I was occupied in the kitchen and he needed to access something quickly for one reason ot another- my fault yes). He's been reading documents I forget in the printer (again my fault).

I cannot live like this. And soon enough I won't have to.

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Dpmn553 · 22/11/2024 10:24

Thanks for your continued posts. I don't understand how and why the thread keeps going, with most of the new posts the same as previous suggestions that I acknowledged re my incompatibility to exist in a family with children, my unreasonably expectations of a partner with a child, and my inability to provide a welcoming home for my partner's son.

I'm moving out at the end of January (the earliest my house will be available and ready). This has made things easier in some respects knowing I will be leaving here soon, but it hasn't been any easier dealing with my partner's son, and yes it's all my fault- but I'd be grateful for the opportunity to vent here.

He'll ask what is for dinner then criticise my choice of rice or pasta in a tone even my partner would not use with me. Titled head to one said and a sarcastic "really, you want to do that". I've been asking him what he'd like for breakfast in the morning, and while me and my partner usually have quick breakfasts, his son will demand something big and time consuming but of course it's up to me to make it. I've been waking up 30 mins earlier to prepare his desired breakfast so I'm not late for work (DP starts works before me so he can't do it). But I'd do this for my own son so I'm expected to do this for my partner's son. He's was due to spent a few days at his mum's while my partner was working away. So I made plans that involved a few friends visiting me at home (who have met my partner's son and feel uncomfortable since he interupts and involves himself in our conversations so much- we arranged this only because my partner's son was away). DP's son called me on the 2nd day telling me his mum had to go away for a night and she'll be dropping him within the hour. Had to cancel my plans entirely and wait for him. They arrived 6 hours later than they said.

But this is all part and parcel of being romantically tied with a man with a child.

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Janicchoplin · 22/11/2024 09:25

Whoyergonnacall · 21/11/2024 20:57

Well I would for my DC all of who are biological and live with both parents.

And if I knew I was living with a child had to adjust to living with a new person having just lived with his dad previously I would go out of my way to be extra supportive and kind. And if I thought that child showed signs of being insecure then very I definitely would for double down to make sure they didn’t feel threatened sakes. And if I thought that a relationship I wanted to stay in depended on making that child feel safe… you get the idea

You're assuming a lot here. Obviously there is something going on with the child. But everyone is clinging onto this biscuit as something op did out of some form of cruelty? Maybe lack of understanding yes. But the lack of information here and outright bullying isn't helpful in the slightest.
The child feels pushed out Obviously. But giving a child constant attention can also back fire. It's about being there to cushion the blow not give in to tantrums. It sends the wrong message. She to is in a new environment yet she is being asked here to do all the adjustments. It's her home too.
How about a good balance of advice and less stone throwing.

Whoyergonnacall · 21/11/2024 20:57

Well I would for my DC all of who are biological and live with both parents.

And if I knew I was living with a child had to adjust to living with a new person having just lived with his dad previously I would go out of my way to be extra supportive and kind. And if I thought that child showed signs of being insecure then very I definitely would for double down to make sure they didn’t feel threatened sakes. And if I thought that a relationship I wanted to stay in depended on making that child feel safe… you get the idea

Janicchoplin · 21/11/2024 19:58

Gogogo12345 · 21/11/2024 16:32

See if my own biological kids weren't in the room I wouldn't be chasing them or banging on their bedroom doors to see if they wanted a cuppa. If they were in the same room as me then I would ask

🙌 thank you. My point exactly! I have been visiting my mum we have made a cup of tea. My niece is upstairs doing whatever she's doing. We don't call up or go see if she wants a cup of tea. Or My nephew is in the livingroom playing on his switch I wouldn't go ask him if he wants a snack because I just went in the fridge to help myself. Some people are so weird on here lol

Gogogo12345 · 21/11/2024 16:32

JoBoJoBo · 20/11/2024 18:51

I was a step child too and a nice person not hard faced .Luckily in my family we care about each other and offer each other drinks and snacks.

See if my own biological kids weren't in the room I wouldn't be chasing them or banging on their bedroom doors to see if they wanted a cuppa. If they were in the same room as me then I would ask

JoBoJoBo · 20/11/2024 18:51

Janicchoplin · 19/11/2024 20:18

I'm a step child. I wasn't bothered if I wasn't asked if I wanted a biscuit. You are perhaps to sensitive it seems.

I was a step child too and a nice person not hard faced .Luckily in my family we care about each other and offer each other drinks and snacks.

Janicchoplin · 19/11/2024 20:18

JoBoJoBo · 19/11/2024 20:15

Because people are kind to 12 year old step children as a rule not selfish .

I'm a step child. I wasn't bothered if I wasn't asked if I wanted a biscuit. You are perhaps to sensitive it seems.

JoBoJoBo · 19/11/2024 20:15

Janicchoplin · 17/11/2024 13:06

Did you not read? She said....I made a tea and biscuits. The son was elsewhere in the house. He wasn't a visiting guest that you would seek out as is polite. He lives in the house. If I were to make a cup of tea and have a biscuit I would make my partner one too. If for some reason I had a child who was cloistered in their bedroom doing their own thing. I wouldn't necessarily knock on the door and ask them if they wanted to interrupt their free time to come sit in my home office and partake in hi tea.

The adults were working from home in the same room. It was a work day. Not a family event or guests visiting.
I'm sure the son when popping down to make himself a cold beverage didn't think to knock on the office door and say dad, lady living with us. Do you want a glass of squash. Of course not.

What is wrong with people on here.

Edited

Because people are kind to 12 year old step children as a rule not selfish .

JoBoJoBo · 19/11/2024 20:08

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 11:45

Thanks for your responses. It seems I'm being naive and unreasonable here.

Just to clarify, he doesn't drink tea. Me and my DP were working from home and I was making myself a cup of tea and asked if my DP wanted one.

The child is only 12 even if he doesn't drink tea be kind and offer the child another drink.Try and be kinder to the child.Try and imagine how they are feeling.Children can be great company .

Kelzlsdp · 18/11/2024 07:19

I dont understand if you are asking your dp what biscuit he wants why you wouldn't also ask his son. The same for the breakfast, it's like you are intentionally causing problems that wouldn't happen if only you asked them both what they would like. I think his son feels left out and given the way you have explained things I can't say I blame him. Also most 12 year olds like to be included in conversations, so maybe if it's something you don't want him involved in, have it when he isn't around, I'm sure you get time alone at night. Put yourself in his shoes, you have moved in to his home and now it feels like you only care for his dad and not him.