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DP's son making me feel like I'm in a relationship with both of them

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Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 11:33

I hope this is in the right place. Have been with DP for 5 years. He has a 12 year old son who has always lived with him. I moved in around 1 year ago. Before I moved in my relationship with DP's son was manageable. I was like an aunt or a teacher or another influential adult in his life. But since I've moved in, my DP's son has been acting in a way that would suggest he doesn't quite understand the dynamic in the house.

For example, the other day I made myself and my DP a cup of tea and gave him a biscuit with it. His son then started asking why he wasn't also offered a biscuit- I told him he's free to take a biscuit if he wants it. In the morning on my days off I'll ask my DP what he fancies for breakfast. If DP's son is there, he'll get upset and make a point about me not asking or including him (of course I'd make everyone's breakfast in such a situation not just my DP). The dynamic is making me feel very uncomfortable.

He'll insert himself into adult conversations that don't concern him, so much so that we have to be careful what we say infront of him. He seems always to have an opinion about adult issues (mortgages, cars, medical issues) that he knows nothing about, and will offer them when me and DP are in the middle of an important discussion.

I'm probably not explaining it well. It just feels like my DP's son expects me to be treating him like another DP/exactly like his father and not the child that he is and it's creating this weird atmosphere where I cannot be myself and exist in a romantic relation with my DP.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? Is this normal?

OP posts:
MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2024 13:17

You've moved into this child's family home. He is not just an inconvenient "extra". By choosing to move in with his dad, you are choosing to have a relationship with this child. Of course it isn't the same as your relationship with his dad, but he shouldn't have to feel like a second class citizen in his own home either.

I think you need to think long and hard about whether you really want to be in a relationship with someone who has children. They come as a package, and that's what you're signing up to if you decide that you want to be with him.

Ladyj84 · 10/11/2024 13:16

O find your attitude weird not the child. Our almost 13 loves to be in convos and I would never dream or think of not offering everyone who is in the room at the time a cake or biscuit. It's you that's weird and I actually feel sorry for the kid who clearly just wants to chat and feel included and even our 3 youngest will appear to chat and they all have various subjects they enjoy to join in. Funny enough our nearly 13 is the deeper one likes to chat about world events,household stuff etc and we never ever discourage it. You seem to have the problem trying to push child out, not the child

Onthesideofthespiders · 10/11/2024 13:14

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:12

In what way?

If you don’t understand how a child can worry they’ll be replaced when one parent has a new child, and then lives in a complete unbroken family unit with their new partner and new child then no one here can help you.

If that’s something that you don’t understand then you are vastly lacking in common sense.

Cheesyfootballs01 · 10/11/2024 13:14

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:12

In what way?

Go and read the many posts about this sort of scenario then you will understand.

Bobandbear · 10/11/2024 13:14

It’s lovely to see you taking all the feedback onboard and it’s great to hear that you made him a snack platter. It can’t be easy adjusting to living with a child when you don’t have any of your own and kids of this age can be frustrating and often a lot less grown up than you’d expect at this age. Hopefully the advice on this thread will help you to build a better relationship with him and also to understand that his behaviour is totally normal for his age.

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:12

Cheesyfootballs01 · 10/11/2024 13:12

You are very naive

In what way?

CautiousLurker1 · 10/11/2024 13:12

So, as an adult, I would never make myself/someone a drink/biscuit and NOT offer to any other human being present, child or step child. It’s effing rude.

As an adult I would never discuss private/personal issues such as mortgages etc in the presence of an uninvolved third party, especially one I did not want to invite an opinion from, child or step child. It’s effing rude.

You get my gist? It’s not the child. It’s you.

Poor kid.

Oh, and PS. You have moved into HIS home, are in a long term relationship with HIS father … of course you have a relationship with him.

Cheesyfootballs01 · 10/11/2024 13:12

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:09

He lives there and merely visits his mum.

You are very naive

BlueSilverCats · 10/11/2024 13:12

Also, it's really weird that you consider including a child /being a family as being like "your partner ".

category12 · 10/11/2024 13:10

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:01

Why would he be " replaced" if another child comes along? They'd both be living there

He wouldn't be replaced, but it's not unreasonable to fear the change in dynamic and worry about being pushed out.

A half-sibling would be loved by both his dad & OP - and while he may be confident about his dad loving him, OP doesn't think to include him much of the time.

Baby/toddler far cuter than a 12 yr old 😂and would need a lot of attention.

It's a really difficult dynamic to negotiate especially if he's already feeling worried about his place in the family.

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:09

Cheesyfootballs01 · 10/11/2024 13:08

He could be ‘replaced’ because the child of his dad and OP would live there full time - whereas the son currently spends part of his time with his mum.

He lives there and merely visits his mum.

Calliopespa · 10/11/2024 13:08

Cheesyfootballs01 · 10/11/2024 12:49

The dynamic in the house has changed - because YOU changed it when you moved in.

Not offering to make breakfast or give him a biscuit is really odd and very impolite. Surely you would ask both of them what they want to eat??

Also he is 12 - of course he wants to be involved in ‘adult’ conversations, nearly all teenagers are proper little know it alls at that age! And staying up late and not wanting to go to bed? Sound familiar? Total normal behaviour.

It’s up to his dad to put those boundaries in place. You shouldn’t be having ‘ important’ personal discussions in front of him anyway.

As for being jealous of what you both do when he’s with his mum? Christ that’s glaringly obvious that he’s worried about being pushed/left out… poor kid. Surely his dad is having conversations about this stuff with him? And reassuring him that won’t happen?

Although from the tone of your posts it does sound like you expect the boy to be seen and not heard.

You don’t come across very well I’m afraid OP.

“Impolite” is putting it politely …

Cheesyfootballs01 · 10/11/2024 13:08

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:01

Why would he be " replaced" if another child comes along? They'd both be living there

He could be ‘replaced’ because the child of his dad and OP would live there full time - whereas the son currently spends part of his time with his mum.

Octoberdreaming · 10/11/2024 13:08

You sound like you see yourself and your partner as a separate entity and not the three of you as a family?
You have put yourself into that’s child’s home and space. Before you came along, it was just him and his Dad, so I imagine it has been difficult for him to adjust to this new situation with you suddenly around and calling all the shots.

Adult natured conversations and decisions should be discussed privately away from earshot of this boy who is just going about his business in his own home. What is he supposed to do, make himself scarce for your convenience?
So yeah, I think you are being the unreasonable one. Poor kid.

JustLoretta · 10/11/2024 13:06

I think he sounds like he's behaving as I'd expect a 12 year old to behave. The person behaving oddly here is not him.

kerstina · 10/11/2024 13:04

What jumps out at me is the he doesn’t like us going on our own without him so I would perhaps make sure DSS still has some dates alone with his dad and perhaps you also could do something on your own with DSS
i think the interrupting adults in conversation is more a personality thing than the situation.

ScabbyHorse · 10/11/2024 13:03

I feel quite sorry for the lad.. this is a precious time for him and his dad as soon he'll be a grumpy teen and probably won't want to be anywhere near you guys. This is the last sweet bit for a while (speaking from experience!). And he's being made to feel unwanted. They leave one day and then that's it, the time has gone.. Their self esteem can really be affected by this type of thing. It sounds like he's managing the dynamic quite well to me.

Gogogo12345 · 10/11/2024 13:01

Dishwashersaurous · 10/11/2024 11:56

Teenagers, and he's almost a teenager, don't go to bed. It's just a fact of living with them that you have to accept.

That's just normal.

Of course he's not going to be happy about his dad doing fun stuff without him, but he needs to get used to that.

Now onto the step part complication

Are you likely to have children yourself? He's probably terrified of being replaced by another child that will live with his dad full time

Why would he be " replaced" if another child comes along? They'd both be living there

Gymnopedie · 10/11/2024 13:01

OP you've had a lot of good advice on here explaining his behaviour, including from those with teens/tweens telling you that's life!

I don't think you're as dreadful as many people are saying you are. You've not been in this situation before and maybe haven't navigated it well so far. But I'm glad you posted and are taking the responses on board. You'll do better from now on. You're not his step mum (MN hates anyone calling themselves a step mum when they're not married to the father!) but to all intents and purposes that's your role now that you have moved in and he lives there permanently. You are a three person household, not a 2+1. You are in a relationship with him and he with you.

But what I've noticed is that the only mention you've made of his father is about sleep and bedtimes. What is he doing to help both you and his son through this major life change? He needs to be taking an active part in this not leaving it all to you and his son to adjust.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 10/11/2024 13:01

It's hard adding any child or adult to an established household, and really important to recognise DS's position as a valued member of the household still. That means being as considerate and inclusive as you can, obviously in an age appropriate way. Offering his dad a biscuit and not him is quite hurtful.
If he chips in on conversations about mortgages and so on, it's a golden opportunity to help him understand how these things work. Of course his questions will be ill informed at first, he's 12! I'd suggest that any conversations you don't want DS to hear should be carried out in private.
I never lived full time with my DSC, just had them to stay one night a week and saw them for holidays and outings. I tried to make them welcome in my home (it was my home and my now DH moved in with me), but looking back there are all kinds of things I wish I had thought of saying and doing, to acknowledge that they have had a really hard time losing their dad's full time presence in their family home and to reassure them that they were welcome and precious.

Goldbar · 10/11/2024 12:59

MyOpulentDuck · 10/11/2024 12:55

This! No way I’m moving in with my DP until all the kids are grown up 😂

I think I'd find it challenging living with other people's children personally. And certainly nurturing a "couple" type of relationship around them.

Coconutter24 · 10/11/2024 12:59

I think you need to move out…. For the sons sake

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/11/2024 12:57

OriginalUsername2 · Today 12:56

I understand. I can imagine it well.
What does DP say about it? I think it’s up to him to have a word

Er,no. It’s up to OP to understand that his son comes first.

YourRubyLion · 10/11/2024 12:57

My 12 year old son sleeps in our bed a lot, I often sleep in his bed, we have a musical bed situation in our house where we all end up un different beds as the kids want to snuggle with us to go to sleep. In terms of complimenting you maybe he senses you are not happy with him and is trying to make some connection, or coming into the room unnanounced, hes lived with just him and his dad it sounds like for ages so hes never had to knock. you are going to have to find a way to ensure he is felt loved and accepted by you and you are coming into his family remember, not the other way around.

MounjaroUser · 10/11/2024 12:56

It sounds as though he feels excluded, OP. That's not your fault but you being there must have radically affected the dynamic between him and his dad. He might well like you but resent that change.