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DP's son making me feel like I'm in a relationship with both of them

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Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 11:33

I hope this is in the right place. Have been with DP for 5 years. He has a 12 year old son who has always lived with him. I moved in around 1 year ago. Before I moved in my relationship with DP's son was manageable. I was like an aunt or a teacher or another influential adult in his life. But since I've moved in, my DP's son has been acting in a way that would suggest he doesn't quite understand the dynamic in the house.

For example, the other day I made myself and my DP a cup of tea and gave him a biscuit with it. His son then started asking why he wasn't also offered a biscuit- I told him he's free to take a biscuit if he wants it. In the morning on my days off I'll ask my DP what he fancies for breakfast. If DP's son is there, he'll get upset and make a point about me not asking or including him (of course I'd make everyone's breakfast in such a situation not just my DP). The dynamic is making me feel very uncomfortable.

He'll insert himself into adult conversations that don't concern him, so much so that we have to be careful what we say infront of him. He seems always to have an opinion about adult issues (mortgages, cars, medical issues) that he knows nothing about, and will offer them when me and DP are in the middle of an important discussion.

I'm probably not explaining it well. It just feels like my DP's son expects me to be treating him like another DP/exactly like his father and not the child that he is and it's creating this weird atmosphere where I cannot be myself and exist in a romantic relation with my DP.

Has anyone experienced anything similar? Is this normal?

OP posts:
Snugglemonkey · 11/11/2024 15:17

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 11:45

Thanks for your responses. It seems I'm being naive and unreasonable here.

Just to clarify, he doesn't drink tea. Me and my DP were working from home and I was making myself a cup of tea and asked if my DP wanted one.

But he does eat biscuits?

Skyrainlight · 11/11/2024 14:46

You sound incredibly rude and like you are deliberately excluding the child. If I was your partner I'd want you to move right back out of the house again.

Goldbar · 11/11/2024 14:21

lunar1 · 11/11/2024 14:14

Definitely move the fuck out, that's an incredibly odd dynamic for the poor kid. He's expecting to be included in the family, not treat like an interloper.

I'd say it's a very unhealthy dynamic to expect a child to live in. If anyone is an outsider, it's not him.

I agree. In a family house, the kids are generally the priority and the adults fit their relationship around the kids. This is why imo so many step-parent relationships run into difficulties - it's hard to sacrifice in this way for children who are not your own and who you don't necessarily feel at home with.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 11/11/2024 14:18

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 15:49

I think I've realised 3 issues here:

Firstly my DP has different expectations of him in that he's happy for his son to interupt him even when DP is talking to other adults/is on the phone. He doesn't get annoyed like about me this behaviour. He also doesn't mind him staying up, or hanging out in my bedroom. I can't help it but these things bother me.

Secondly, my DP and his son have plenty of 1 on 1 time. They have activities together 4-5 days a week. And his son stays up until midnight most nights so the second issue is that I feel I don't have enough time with his father. I'm left being the person who gets them biscuits and cooks and cleans for them. We rarely spend time as a 3 anymore too after I moved in.

And finally, the third issue is that I'm losing my patience and begining to question my place in the house given the the aforementioned points. This isn't healthy for the boy, and I think it's better I continue my relationship with his father while not living with them. My DP had more time for me, and I didn't have to worry about parenting his son before I moved in. But also, I've realised I need my space and my privacy and that will always be tricky living full time with a 12 year old child.

Thanks again for all the responses.

Edited

Great to know you have a solution. All the best for the future

lunar1 · 11/11/2024 14:14

Definitely move the fuck out, that's an incredibly odd dynamic for the poor kid. He's expecting to be included in the family, not treat like an interloper.

I'd say it's a very unhealthy dynamic to expect a child to live in. If anyone is an outsider, it's not him.

Sceptical123 · 11/11/2024 13:56

Sceptical123 · 11/11/2024 13:48

Exactly this, it’s almost like she expects to treat the 12 year old boy like her partner’s house mate as opposed to his young son - so weird!

Please don’t marry this man OP - I am picking up serious (hate to use the term) evil stepmother vibes and a likely disparity if you ever had children with him. Leave now if you don’t like the fact he has a child, you should have probably considered what moving in with them would look like first.

Read your update - wise move moving out. Things will change if you move in bc you are naturally going to be absorbed into the family unit and the son be going anywhere for a few years yet. Hard to move your relationship on living apart though. May have to call time

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2024 13:55

MissUltraViolet · 10/11/2024 15:57

No, most parents don't get annoyed with their child talking to them, even if being interrupted.

Many don't mind their (almost) teens staying up late every now and then either.

Also, it isn't your bedroom, it is his dads bedroom - that you (his girlfriend) is currently sharing. I'd be absolutely fine with my DD hanging out in my room no matter who I lived with.

The "my DP had more time for me" comment is also quite telling. He is a dad before anything else, even you.

You really shouldn't have moved into his house. I am not sure you even like this poor lad.

No, actually 12 year-olds should know not to interrupt, it's rude

Midnight every night is too late

And if the OP has moved in she is entitled to a private space. If not the bedroom then where?

Yes the biscuit and breakfast things were wrong, but I think the OP needs to have a full and frank discussion with her partner and see if there's any way forward or not.

Calliopespa · 11/11/2024 13:52

A child has a central place in a family op. If you are struggling with that, I think your instinct to move on is the right one.

Well done for identifying this early on, and for your acceptance of the issue. A lot of people push a square peg in a round hole then it all blows up down the line, with more damage done.

Please don’t “blame” this on the boy when conveying to his dad: he honestly sounds like a normal 12 year old. Children shouldn’t have to behave other than age appropriately to accommodate their parent’s romantic life.

Sceptical123 · 11/11/2024 13:48

twentysevendresses · 10/11/2024 11:43

Do you have children of your own OP? I'm asking because you don't seem to understand how family dynamics work at all! You are living as a family unit now...and yet you're acting as if it's just the two of you (you and your DP) with the 12 year old having to fight desperately to feel seen or heard within this dynamic.

He shouldn't have to do this...if you're making tea and biscuits, you need to ask everyone, NOT exclude him and the tell him to get his own! This is not only rude, it's hurtful!

The same with breakfast...whoever is making breakfast should offer it for all the family...you are being very weird about this!

He's 12...he can (and should!) be included in conversations about mortgages and so on...how's he ever going to learn about these things if you shut him out??

I'm astonished that you don't see how bloody weird you are being here...and why his father isn't telling you how weird you are being!!

Exactly this, it’s almost like she expects to treat the 12 year old boy like her partner’s house mate as opposed to his young son - so weird!

Please don’t marry this man OP - I am picking up serious (hate to use the term) evil stepmother vibes and a likely disparity if you ever had children with him. Leave now if you don’t like the fact he has a child, you should have probably considered what moving in with them would look like first.

Gogogo12345 · 11/11/2024 13:41

Cyclingmummy1 · 10/11/2024 15:30

You want him to behave like a child and not join in adult conversations, but you want him to behave as more of an adult than your DP and make his own breakfast.

It's hardly adult to make your own breakfast. 8 year old DGS is perfectly capable of doing so

samanthablues · 11/11/2024 09:37

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 15:49

I think I've realised 3 issues here:

Firstly my DP has different expectations of him in that he's happy for his son to interupt him even when DP is talking to other adults/is on the phone. He doesn't get annoyed like about me this behaviour. He also doesn't mind him staying up, or hanging out in my bedroom. I can't help it but these things bother me.

Secondly, my DP and his son have plenty of 1 on 1 time. They have activities together 4-5 days a week. And his son stays up until midnight most nights so the second issue is that I feel I don't have enough time with his father. I'm left being the person who gets them biscuits and cooks and cleans for them. We rarely spend time as a 3 anymore too after I moved in.

And finally, the third issue is that I'm losing my patience and begining to question my place in the house given the the aforementioned points. This isn't healthy for the boy, and I think it's better I continue my relationship with his father while not living with them. My DP had more time for me, and I didn't have to worry about parenting his son before I moved in. But also, I've realised I need my space and my privacy and that will always be tricky living full time with a 12 year old child.

Thanks again for all the responses.

Edited

Sounds completely reasonable, whatever gives you peace of mind go for it. Being a mother is hard, but being a mother when you did not ask for it sounds a bit of a nightmare.

BunnyLake · 11/11/2024 08:43

I would definitely move out if I were you. I can’t really see any advantages for you by living there. If you’re able to move out and continue as you were before the move (if you want to continue) then I’d choose that.

Calliopespa · 11/11/2024 08:16

DeathpunchDan · 10/11/2024 15:19

He is picking up on you not specifically asking him.
It's likely something which is borne from his Dad being in a relationship with you, feeling insecure and his brain telling him that you are someone who can alter his closeness with his Dad ( albeit unfounded). It's not uncommon, as we are all human and complex.
Just make a point to include him too, just to reassure him that he matters too.

If we are being honest, that fear probably isn’t unfounded.

Gymnopedie · 10/11/2024 22:06

My DP is very supportive and wants me to remain living with them.

But I don't think he is supportive. There have been many posts saying that you're not considering the situation from the DS's point of view, but DP isn't thinking about you either. He's carrying on as he has always done with the added benefit of getting his washing done (and presumably some sex when his son allows 😉)This has been your home for a year, even if they were there first.

I think it's a good update OP and although a lot of the responses have been (imo at times unnecessarily) harsh, it seems it's shone a light on the issues for you. The conclusion you've come to is I'm sure the right one for you. And so that's what you must do. Don't be swayed by DP saying he wants you to stay. He hasn't done anything to make it easier for you, in fact you have a harder life now than you did before you moved in. Only his is easier.

Good luck and I hope you get settled in your own place very soon. And should it be that it spells the end of your relationship I still think it is absolutely the right thing to do.

Dishwashersaurous · 10/11/2024 21:37

Maybe talk to your partner and explain that

  1. You need quality time with him, and just him 2 or three nights a week.
  1. You need privacy, put an internal lock on your door.
  1. That his son needs to not interrupt and go to bed before midnight, which are completely sensible requests.

If he isn't willing to even do those things, then moving out seems sensible

AmberAlert86 · 10/11/2024 21:02

maddening · 10/11/2024 17:01

I don't think this means you aren't cut out for parenting your own dc - I think it is v diff with your own dc to what you have experienced here.

I agree, i struggled with being part time step parent ( I mean the kid already had both patents albeit not living together, and as dad's partner hou don't have much right or say in tye upbringing). But it was all different once I had my own kids. You will know if you op want kids, and maybe only when you meet a man you will realise hou want kids from him.

Animatic · 10/11/2024 19:48

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 16:51

Thank you

My DP is very supportive and wants me to remain living with them. This is my first real relationship. We've been together for 5 years which isn't an insignificant amount of time and have been through a lot together.

Also, I suspected I might be ND but suspect this even more strongly after reading this thread. I think I have trouble relating to DP's son, and want my space and privacy, like things a certain way. I'm very objective and concrete in my thinking and struggle to connect with the child which I accept is terrible. I have no children of my own. I've always worried I'm not cut out for family life/motherhood and this really confirms that it's true, sadly.

OP, honestly, not everyone is cut to accept-embrace-love other people's children. It doesn't authomatically mean you can't have your own.
I love my child to bits but generally do not like children , was never interested in babies (except for my dc),etc.. That's why I would never consider becoming a step-parent.

Miniope · 10/11/2024 19:34

What you have described in terms of your DP's son's behaviour is pretty normal for his age, but so are your feelings around it, despite what many of the responses suggest. I'd imagine that many of those replying are commenting from the perspective of being biological parents rather than step-parents. It's very normal to want and need privacy and space from a child who is not yours. It takes time to find your roles when becoming part of a non-nuclear/blended family and it's hard, the only chance you have at working through these things is by being able to communicate with your partner and address issues and feelings that arise.

In terms of the 12 year old's behaviour, my DSS who is 12 is the exact same in butting in to adult conversations and giving opinions on things that he would know nothing about and it used to drive me nuts, but my mum encouraged me to see the funny side off it and just laugh it off (not in front of him, obviously) and that's helped me not to take it so seriously. I'm lucky though that for the most part, this annoys my DP too and so he pulls my DSS up on it.

Needing time with your partner is important too and something that you need to communicate with your partner about. We were in a similar position at one stage and I discussed with my DP about us needing time for a couple without kids as well and so bedtimes were important for that as well as regular date nights. Even if we can't get anyone to watch the kids, at least once a month we get them all to bed early and will have a date night in the house, make a nice meal of whatever. I think that's important for us but also important for the kids as it gives a positive example of a relationship and making time for one another.

However, if I were you and didn't have children with my DP (we have children together also) I know that my life would be much easier and less stressful if DP and I lived apart so I would give that some serious consideration if I was you as it sounds like you may get more out of your relationship if you live apart.

Starlight7080 · 10/11/2024 19:21

You sound like hard work. He sounds like a typical kid.
I spend half my time asking my kids to give me and my dh a minute to have private conversations or waiting till a better time.
And if I'm making breakfast I ask if anyone wants anything . It's just normal family behaviour.
If you didn't want that dynamic why did you move in?

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 10/11/2024 19:14

@Dpmn553 Where is step son's mother in all this? does she never have her son or has she passed away? you partner really needs to start teaching his son some social awareness because that looks like it is sadly non existent!

mumedu · 10/11/2024 18:34

Dpmn553 · 10/11/2024 15:49

I think I've realised 3 issues here:

Firstly my DP has different expectations of him in that he's happy for his son to interupt him even when DP is talking to other adults/is on the phone. He doesn't get annoyed like about me this behaviour. He also doesn't mind him staying up, or hanging out in my bedroom. I can't help it but these things bother me.

Secondly, my DP and his son have plenty of 1 on 1 time. They have activities together 4-5 days a week. And his son stays up until midnight most nights so the second issue is that I feel I don't have enough time with his father. I'm left being the person who gets them biscuits and cooks and cleans for them. We rarely spend time as a 3 anymore too after I moved in.

And finally, the third issue is that I'm losing my patience and begining to question my place in the house given the the aforementioned points. This isn't healthy for the boy, and I think it's better I continue my relationship with his father while not living with them. My DP had more time for me, and I didn't have to worry about parenting his son before I moved in. But also, I've realised I need my space and my privacy and that will always be tricky living full time with a 12 year old child.

Thanks again for all the responses.

Edited

Good luck, OP.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/11/2024 18:30

@Dpmn553

I don't think the fact that you need your own space and don't want to be a stepmum makes you ND at all. I'm NT and made a decision when I was in my early 20s that I would never date a man with children, it just wasn't for me. I wanted to have my own children though and had two, I just didn't want to be a stepmum. So don't think less of yourself because you don't want to be one, either.

The thing is, your DP's son and he have already established the parameters of their relationship. And that relationship must always come first, that's just the way parenthood works. You either have to 'slot yourself in' to their already existing relationship or move out. If your DP can't deal with that, then it's time to walk away.

icelolly12 · 10/11/2024 18:26

Also, if the child doesn't have a good relationship with his Mother there may be abandonment/attachment issues/trauma stemming from that which is why he is maybe quite needy/needs reassurance. Poor lad I want to give him a hug myself.

Teanbiscuits33 · 10/11/2024 17:59

The butting in during conversations sounds annoying, but he’s at that age where he thinks he knows it all and is trying to understand how the world works. I think it can be a good thing he wants to be involved in a way. I don’t think I’d view this as such an issue depending on whether he accepts answers when I’ve explained or not!

If there are important things that really mustn’t be said in his company, can these conversations not wait until he is in bed? As for offering snacks and drinks, it seems odd to me that you wouldn’t offer everyone? In this house if someone is making a cup of tea etc, everyone is offered, not just adults.

It’s obvious to me you are making him feel unimportant compared to you and DP.

Givemethreerings · 10/11/2024 17:53

People are giving the OP a really hard time here, and perhaps haven’t read all of her posts, but I find some of the comments unnecessarily scathing, mean or even cruel. OP, having friends in similar set ups I think your words show positive self awareness and openness - I hope some of the advice here is helpful and it works out with your DP.

Good relationships are hard to find and all require compromise.

With five years already invested in each other, it might be worth compromising by living apart for a few short years in order to save a loving relationship for the long term.