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DS made racist comment at school

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ellie09 · 10/11/2024 11:31

I have a DS age 7 who has ASD and he struggles quite a bit socially.

I am utterly appalled and ashamed by what I have heard this morning. This wasn't any thing directly to me or by the teacher.

DS apparently made a comment to a girl in his class saying he "didn't want to play with her as she has brown skin". This apparently blown up in a private group chat on WhatsApp that I was not aware of. I hadn't had any communications from teachers or other parents, so I was confused.

His best friend at school is a Muslim boy and his granny is Brazilian. He has grown up around different skin colours from a baby. We have had a serious conversation today in which I have told him he must apologise to this girl tomorrow.

However, I am also angry that this has been put on a WhatsApp group before anybody has even spoken to me, I assume the teachers aren't even aware. Of course, this has caused outrage in the group chat (and rightly so!) but I can't help but feel this was wrongly handled by the other parent as this is a group of 7 year old children and issues like this can escalate very quickly.

How do I handle this moving forward? Do I request a meeting with the head teacher and make them aware of the incident etc?

I feel really sick at the thought of walking my child into school tomorrow, knowing that most will be judging based on what they have heard.

Btw, I'm not in the group chat - screenshots were sent to me by another parent.

OP posts:
ThatRareUmberJoker · 10/11/2024 19:21

verysmellyjelly · 10/11/2024 16:59

@Maray1967 No concern for the racism? No concern for the little girl?

You do understand that people are allowed to discuss racist incidents that occur in their own communities?

This is about children my son suffered racism at his school when he was in year 1. The school dealt with it sharply. When I did talk about it I did not mention any names. I spoke to the mother and that was the end of it. I think it's appalling when adults thinks it's okay to gang up against a child it's abuse.

The worst thing is is that these wannabe parents will use their children to abuse ops child.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 19:15

KnitFastDieWarm · 10/11/2024 18:52

a) I’m talking about the OP’s child, not the OP. Her child has autism, which is a disability, and requires reasonable adjustments both legally and socially. Of course he needs to learn what is and isn’t acceptable, but he also needs understanding of his own challenges.

b) I have autism, I’m disabled. Don’t tell me how to identify myself, please!

c) you may not be aware, but many disabled people see the argument you’re making here about the term ‘disabled’ being reductive as similar to the racism-related ‘i don’t really see colour or race’ argument. Saying disabled people aren’t disabled doesn’t make us less disabled or reduce ableism. You may want to be aware of that as someone who clearly takes privilege and oppression seriously. I’d suggest making sure you’re aware of your own privilege (we all have it, in one way or another) before you pass judgment on others, as I’m sure you wouldn’t want to appear to be speaking for me as a disabled person or labelling me in a way that I don’t identify with.

Edited

IMO the terms has been used on this thread in a reductive manner. I am not telling you how you should I identify. I am telling you that I have been told that the term 'disabled' used as their primary descriptor is considered reductive. They prefer their disability to be acknowledged by its name ie autistic spectrum disorder/asd or adhd or social communication disorder etc. You do you. You don't speak for all people with disabilities any more that I speak for all ethnic minorities.

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 19:07

AgentJohnson · 10/11/2024 19:06

Mountain out of a molehill is my reaction. Take him out for a happy day to take his mind off his indiscretion..

WTAF

This needs to handled by the school. Do not initiate contact with the parent or child until you’ve contacted the school.

Yep - I'm not planning to have contact unless the school arranges it. I am not friendly / familiar with this parent anyway.

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Dolly567 · 10/11/2024 19:07

You say your son is ASD and is becoming emotional when questioned about this. If it's something that has been said out of character I wonder if it has been influenced by someone else ..
I would ask where he's heard this from or maybe his reasons for saying it if he could write it down if possible

AgentJohnson · 10/11/2024 19:06

Mountain out of a molehill is my reaction. Take him out for a happy day to take his mind off his indiscretion..

WTAF

This needs to handled by the school. Do not initiate contact with the parent or child until you’ve contacted the school.

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 19:05

cansu · 10/11/2024 19:01

Ellie09
Commenting on the posts in this group is hardly going to calm down the row is it? Getting involved yourself and then seeking the school's help is ridiculous. The best thing is to be the adult and report the situation to the school so they can sort it out.

That's what's happening

No one is adding me in there anyhow - lol

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cansu · 10/11/2024 19:01

Ellie09
Commenting on the posts in this group is hardly going to calm down the row is it? Getting involved yourself and then seeking the school's help is ridiculous. The best thing is to be the adult and report the situation to the school so they can sort it out.

KnitFastDieWarm · 10/11/2024 18:57

@ellie09 I suspect some posters are just after a reaction. Ignore them 😊

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:55

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:51

Once you have educated yourself more broadly you will know what more you can do for your son and what this issue is with your current approach/way of describing things. There are lots of resources available.

I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about, and you aren't giving any helpful suggestions either.

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normanprice62 · 10/11/2024 18:55

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:37

Its not ablest to expect the OP to do better on the subject of racism with her DS. Everything she has written here suggests she does not have the skills to do that herself. She is obsessed with getting back at the WhatsApp group, yet here she is calling them out rather than focusing on the girl who was affected and how she can help her son learn from this. As for the son, he in on the Autistic spectrum but this does not mean there should not be reasonable expectations or consequences. The opportunity to learn on this occasion is being squandered

On disabiliy. So many people calling him a disabled 7 year old. None of the individuals I know like to be reduced to just being called 'disabled', it's reductive. They and their parents have fought hard for them to be able to reach their potential and be included when their ASD was being used to restrict their growth and make their world smaller. So don't @me about disabilities when you are being so reductive.

Are you not bored of twisting everything the op has said yet? The child is 7! He's been educated by his mum and even punished. What exactly would you like the op to do to make you shut up saying the same drivel over and over again. You're so delusional your making stuff up and insisting the op is the one who has said it. You must no that's not normal.

As for your latest ableist rubbish regarding asd, you obviously have zero experience with a non verbal child still in nappies. Their parents do everything they can to help them to reach their full potentional, it doesnt make them not disabled. Some children with asd are very much disabled whether you or your friends like it or not. How people wish to identify is up to them, not you.

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:53

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 10/11/2024 18:50

This whole thing / thread is now beyond the point of being blown out of proportion

It for blown out of proportion when a 7 year olds comment on the playground was posted all over a WhatsApp group instead of being flagged to the parents or the school

It leads to gossip / hear say amongst children and their parents. As no doubt a lot of parents will be telling their kids to now stay away from my DS, which is going to isolate him even more, over a comment he doesn't know the full meaning of.

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normanprice62 · 10/11/2024 18:53

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KnitFastDieWarm · 10/11/2024 18:52

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:37

Its not ablest to expect the OP to do better on the subject of racism with her DS. Everything she has written here suggests she does not have the skills to do that herself. She is obsessed with getting back at the WhatsApp group, yet here she is calling them out rather than focusing on the girl who was affected and how she can help her son learn from this. As for the son, he in on the Autistic spectrum but this does not mean there should not be reasonable expectations or consequences. The opportunity to learn on this occasion is being squandered

On disabiliy. So many people calling him a disabled 7 year old. None of the individuals I know like to be reduced to just being called 'disabled', it's reductive. They and their parents have fought hard for them to be able to reach their potential and be included when their ASD was being used to restrict their growth and make their world smaller. So don't @me about disabilities when you are being so reductive.

a) I’m talking about the OP’s child, not the OP. Her child has autism, which is a disability, and requires reasonable adjustments both legally and socially. Of course he needs to learn what is and isn’t acceptable, but he also needs understanding of his own challenges.

b) I have autism, I’m disabled. Don’t tell me how to identify myself, please!

c) you may not be aware, but many disabled people see the argument you’re making here about the term ‘disabled’ being reductive as similar to the racism-related ‘i don’t really see colour or race’ argument. Saying disabled people aren’t disabled doesn’t make us less disabled or reduce ableism. You may want to be aware of that as someone who clearly takes privilege and oppression seriously. I’d suggest making sure you’re aware of your own privilege (we all have it, in one way or another) before you pass judgment on others, as I’m sure you wouldn’t want to appear to be speaking for me as a disabled person or labelling me in a way that I don’t identify with.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:51

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:39

Have you read any of the posts where I updated on what I have done with DS today?

What else do you expect me to do with a 7 year old?

Once you have educated yourself more broadly you will know what more you can do for your son and what this issue is with your current approach/way of describing things. There are lots of resources available.

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 10/11/2024 18:50

This whole thing / thread is now beyond the point of being blown out of proportion

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:45

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 10/11/2024 18:42

I'd ignore certain posters, you've been marked as a racist now so anything you say is going to be used as proof of that.

My children are brown, if this situation had happened to them I wouldn't be bitching about a 7-year-old child on WhatsApp groups, I'd have been contacting the school to deal with it. These grown women are bullies.

Yeah, a reaction I was expecting

Going to see leadership team in the morning to address this. If I am the only one there waiting and not the other parent also, it shows how serious they are taking it vs general gossip nonsense.

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 10/11/2024 18:42

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:39

Have you read any of the posts where I updated on what I have done with DS today?

What else do you expect me to do with a 7 year old?

I'd ignore certain posters, you've been marked as a racist now so anything you say is going to be used as proof of that.

My children are brown, if this situation had happened to them I wouldn't be bitching about a 7-year-old child on WhatsApp groups, I'd have been contacting the school to deal with it. These grown women are bullies.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:41

Maray1967 · 10/11/2024 17:53

You need to read OP’s comment that I quoted. One of the people on the WhatsApp group is employed by the school.

Ad yet the OP said they have not said anything on the group chat about the incident.

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:39

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:37

Its not ablest to expect the OP to do better on the subject of racism with her DS. Everything she has written here suggests she does not have the skills to do that herself. She is obsessed with getting back at the WhatsApp group, yet here she is calling them out rather than focusing on the girl who was affected and how she can help her son learn from this. As for the son, he in on the Autistic spectrum but this does not mean there should not be reasonable expectations or consequences. The opportunity to learn on this occasion is being squandered

On disabiliy. So many people calling him a disabled 7 year old. None of the individuals I know like to be reduced to just being called 'disabled', it's reductive. They and their parents have fought hard for them to be able to reach their potential and be included when their ASD was being used to restrict their growth and make their world smaller. So don't @me about disabilities when you are being so reductive.

Have you read any of the posts where I updated on what I have done with DS today?

What else do you expect me to do with a 7 year old?

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Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 10/11/2024 18:37

KnitFastDieWarm · 10/11/2024 17:39

ableism is pretty shit too. You’re talking about a disabled 7 year old child here. Or is racism the only form of prejudice that matters to you?

Its not ablest to expect the OP to do better on the subject of racism with her DS. Everything she has written here suggests she does not have the skills to do that herself. She is obsessed with getting back at the WhatsApp group, yet here she is calling them out rather than focusing on the girl who was affected and how she can help her son learn from this. As for the son, he in on the Autistic spectrum but this does not mean there should not be reasonable expectations or consequences. The opportunity to learn on this occasion is being squandered

On disabiliy. So many people calling him a disabled 7 year old. None of the individuals I know like to be reduced to just being called 'disabled', it's reductive. They and their parents have fought hard for them to be able to reach their potential and be included when their ASD was being used to restrict their growth and make their world smaller. So don't @me about disabilities when you are being so reductive.

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:36

cansu · 10/11/2024 18:18

Why on earth have you asked to join the group?? This is a group you have described as making unacceptable comments about your child and you want to join it...

This is a group making comments about my child that I can't access to put my point across or any actions I am doing to rectify.

The fact it's even said in a group where the parents concerned have no eye on is concerning. Especially when parents/school are not informed

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ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:32

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 10/11/2024 18:26

People worry far too much about things children say.

I worry that if not reprimanded, this will spill over into adulthood, so I do worry and I action as and when it comes up

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ellie09 · 10/11/2024 18:31

Bushmillsbabe · 10/11/2024 18:26

So he is also a victim of racism?
This school sounds like it has significant issues with bullying based on skin colour, and disability.
I wonder why this child didn't report your sons comment to a teacher OP? Or maybe she did and was ignored as school staff are not taking bullying seriously.

Are the bullies parents in this whatts app group OP?

Edited

I'm not jumping to any conclusions as it's hearsay from 7 year olds

But my 7 year old said to me that his "friends" pointed out his skin and said they didn't like it. He copies behaviour and probably replicated it with his friend.

Not saying it's okay, before anyone gets at me.

I just didn't know it was a wider issue within his class, as I was only informed it was my DS to begin with, until DS settled and told me the chain of events.

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Bushmillsbabe · 10/11/2024 18:26

ellie09 · 10/11/2024 16:43

Can I just add that there is no indication at all that the girl in question who is SEVEN YEARS OLD is a bully.

My child has said he likes her and that he enjoys playing with her.

He has let me know the bullies names and I know who they are. Ironically, it's the kids who act nicest to him.

He has told me that these two children told him they don't like him because of his skin. So I think it's parroted behaviour.

I will be speaking with head teacher about getting a session in soon on race, diversity and inclusion in the school. My DS is apparently saying 2 children are saying they don't like him because of his skin colour.

It seems like a wider issue in the school itself.

So he is also a victim of racism?
This school sounds like it has significant issues with bullying based on skin colour, and disability.
I wonder why this child didn't report your sons comment to a teacher OP? Or maybe she did and was ignored as school staff are not taking bullying seriously.

Are the bullies parents in this whatts app group OP?

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 10/11/2024 18:26

People worry far too much about things children say.

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