If you don’t want to observe two minute silence- don’t be out

The point isn't that you need to be in a perfectly silent environment for 2 minutes though. It's supposed to be each person taking time out of their day for they themselves to reflect, remember and give thanks. It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing.

Are you hard of reading? Can I ask exactly what contribution you make to veteran and serviceperson welfare? Is it just the being quiet for 2 minutes? I don’t care about 2 minutes’ silence but it does nothing of any material benefit for my serving family members, or to honour the sacrifices of my grandparents in any real way. I honour them by real action. I volunteer for the blind veterans, I fundraise for help for heroes, I’ve volunteered for the RBL’s poppy campaign in the past because it actually makes a difference. I don’t think standing in the supermarket for 2 minutes makes a jot of difference, beyond allowing people who do fuck all else to feel smug and sanctimonious.

I am actually shocked that nearly half of Mumsnetters seem to consider it acceptable to not observe the 2 minutes silence if they are out and about

thats not the case

the OP is asking if she is unreasonable to say that anyone who doesn’t observe the 2 minutes silence should stay at home….I voted she was being unreasonable for that

I'm going round to a friend's for coffee, just about to leave. We'll be in full yak by 11. Just have to leave early to avoid the disapproving looks from our village church goers.

I certainly do not and will not observe a silence or wear a poppy to remember those who came to my country and killed innocent people (bloody Sunday to name one). I say this as someone whose grandfather served in the navy, great uncles in British army (mostly through necessity as they were 2nd class citizens in their own country with no other options). I feel immensely sorry for those young men who were forced to go to war by their country and no shits given by their government over how many lives were lost or how young they were. But I will not be funding a organisation that supports men who opened fire in my country on innocent people, including shooting my cousin in the back, killing him at 12 years of age,. Although the British courts found the solider guilty of manslaughter he was let out on technicalities of the court processss and returned to his position in the army!! The liberties taken by many of those so called soldiers were disgusting which I witnessed as a child and teen.

Maybe educate yourself outside of your state education and the many other wars that your army has been fighting in and you might have more understanding why others may not support this.

Everyone should be still and quiet if the shop was observing it.

Yeah, thanks.
I'm staying in, there is some work in progress on the house 😁

If remeberance was so important to her (which is absolutely fine obviously), why on earth was she in a queue at a checkout at 11. Stand to the side at 10:58 and then rejoin. Standing silent mid transaction in a store where the staff aren't observing it is performative.

I'd imagine since covid there is a whole bunch of people just waiting to point out how people are doing living their lives wrong.

Once you start having two minutes' silence twice, it does feel like it is becoming performative.

Absolutely, 4 minutes out of 525600 a year is the very definition of performative. Fuck me.

Yes I find it odd that shops observe a 2min silence. If attending an event of course but not in businesses etc. What next, buses pulling over for 2mins? Work places should continue to function.

Right, well that's your issue.

It’s not a celebration. Quite the reverse.

Well that's interrupting someone else's observance and rude.

But chatting amongst yourselves whilst out and about. Or simply forgetting. It's the if you're not doing it stay home bit I objected to. I think that's too far.

I agree with this.

No, I can't.
They're confusing dislike of government policy with service and willingness.

Freedom I guess

What a stupid thing to post! Of course a silence that is observed for two minutes all over the UK by many people to remember all the dead (some of them members of my family) killed wars is absolutely full of meaning. If you're so dim or insensitive that you don't/ can't understand that, none of us can help you.

The exact opposite. If someone wants to observe the silence they should stay home where they can actually make it silent, or go to a remembrance event. If you're at work you just have to take a tea break or do a silence at a different time. You can't make the whole world bend to accommodate your interests and beliefs.

I don't view joining the armed forces as an honourable thing to do, no.

I see the point of ONE two minutes' silence per year, and personally I believe it belongs on Remembrance Sunday, as was tradition after 1945, and not on Armistice Day, which is a recent thing, since 1995. Armistice Day WAS always aboout WWI, and the PP was not wrong to say this.

Once you start having two minutes' silence twice, it does feel like it is becoming performative.

I don't make noise, but I much prefer to be in places that are not observing the Armistice Day silence if at all possible.

The way some people are writing, it seems they don't understand that Remembrance Sunday is a thing.

The woman bowing her head was not the issue here.

OP's suggestion is as awful as the people who try to shame people for not wearing poppies.

Meh. If you want to observe it, do so. If others choose not to, that’s their prerogative and I certainly wouldn’t be bothered by it.

You're funny.
I'll leave it there as you clearly have no desire to hear other opinions.
Off to watch the Remembrance service now.