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If you don’t want to observe two minute silence- don’t be out

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Mokel · 10/11/2024 08:46

Every Remembrance Sunday and Nov 11th, when I worked at retail, we did a tannoy announcement with 5 min, 2 min before to inform customers that the store will be observing the 2 min silence. Then another to start it.

Every time there were customers who kept talking. Plus one time a woman in her 50s shouted “why can’t anyone serve me some fucking fags?” Everyone just looked at her. Some had the courage to say how disrespectful she was once the silence ended.

If you are unable or refuse to observe the silence at 11am today or tomorrow, please don’t be in a public place.

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ADisreputableJade · 10/11/2024 11:18

If you are unable or refuse to observe the silence at 11am today or tomorrow, please don’t be in a public place.

To nit-pick for a moment, a shop isn't a public place, it's a building that's open to the public, with the right to refuse or limit entry. I agree that people who choose not to observe the silence when there has been an announcement that it will happen in that building should leave it. In a public place, e.g. the street or the park, I guess they can carry on not being silent, but indoors you should comply with what the establishment owners/management chooses to happen.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:14

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:11

Nope. I hope you weren't reading MN.

I don't care what you think, but of course I wasn't.

pestowithwalnuts · 10/11/2024 11:13

Mintyt · 10/11/2024 09:12

Yes makes me very cross when not silent, and makes me very emotional when we do, such a small thing to do for such a big thing the armed forces did for us and the country

Absolutely. We always observe the silence wherever we are.
Mostly at home now. DH raises a tot of whisky to the fallen.

In Sainsbury's observing the 2mins silence..everyone stopped still...tills were quiet yet one elderly couple continued to argue about wether they should buy digestives of malted milk

SoupDragon · 10/11/2024 11:13

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 10:53

OP said unable.

The only people unable to be silent for two minutes are those who are unable to be silent because of disability or neuro divergence etc.

Suggesting that those who are unable to stay silent should stay home is ableist, regardless of anyone's feelings about remeberance.

It's clear from the context of the post that she meant people talking, not making noise through SNs/disabilities.

StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 11:12

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 11:07

Our borders weren't in danger in 1998 any more than they were through all the years that the IRA were active. Acts of terrorism don't equate to invasion.

Might be worth mentioning that on the Conflict in the Middle East threads because Israel has been using that as an excuse for over a year now.
Apologies for the derail, couldn’t resist

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:11

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:09

I was completely still and silent for the 2 mins - according to the timing of your posting you weren't.

Nope. I hope you weren't reading MN.

SweeperShoe · 10/11/2024 11:09

Bloody typical... There I am, reading an entertaining thread about the recent performativeness of the 2 minute silence in a garden centre café, chomping away at a nice vegan fry up, enjoying the ping ponging of arguments, and realising suddenly that the Muzak had stopped, everyone had frozen whatever they were doing, forks halfway up, gentlemen mid pushing chairs under their partners' bottom, gentlemen's partners' bottoms half seated, someone paused in the doorway letting the fricking cold air in .... and unpause, the fallen sufficiently honoured, forks in mouths, bottoms on seats and doors finally closed, my breakfast half cold as I was right next to the entrance....

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:09

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:01

Is talking on the internet allowed?

I was completely still and silent for the 2 mins - according to the timing of your posting you weren't.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:07

StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 11:04

Although lots on here might be.
Im thinking the Irish, for example.

Yes, of course.

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 11:07

Our borders weren't in danger in 1998 any more than they were through all the years that the IRA were active. Acts of terrorism don't equate to invasion.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:06

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 11:01

I'm assuming you were born before 1998?

I was born at a time and in a place when the threat of war and the potential loss of liberty was probably at it's lowest.

MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot · 10/11/2024 11:04

Ratfinkstinkypink · 10/11/2024 09:26

I observe it but it I find it impossible to make sure my 4 year old with epilepsy and dystonia does too. I mean, if I had a magic switch which would turn off his pain when his seizures or pain, both of which can make him scream, come then I would use it. Permanently. But he doesn't, so I can't. Doesn't mean I feel like I need to hide him away though. Not today nor any other day.

I’m sure you understand that’s not what @Mokel meant. She means those who are flagrantly breaking the silence that is important to the vast majority.

I am so sorry for what your son and you are going through, no-one would expect him to be silent in any circumstances.

StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 11:04

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 10:54

Most of us are definitely speaking from the luxury of not being alive at a time when our liberty or our country's borders are under threat.

Edited

Although lots on here might be.
Im thinking the Irish, for example.

Alphaalga · 10/11/2024 11:02

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StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:01

Is talking on the internet allowed?

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 10/11/2024 11:01

I like that it happens everywhere, even the supermarket or the airport. Its transcendent.

The gun has been fired. 🤐🤫

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 11:01

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 10:54

Most of us are definitely speaking from the luxury of not being alive at a time when our liberty or our country's borders are under threat.

Edited

I'm assuming you were born before 1998?

AndThereSheGoes · 10/11/2024 11:00

jannier · 10/11/2024 09:23

Do you talk through funerals? How sad we used to show respect for others feelings if I'm in a religious environment I don't talk through others reflection or prayers. The country decided to honour it's dead soldiers even the ones still dying today.

This.

It may be nonsense to some people but it's nice appreciative gesture for all those who have lost their lives for the country. Why would you not respect that?

PaminaMozart · 10/11/2024 11:00

Less than a minute to go.
Let's just respect the silence.
Pleass

MiddleParking · 10/11/2024 10:58

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 10:56

Except nobody has said anything of the sort. 🫣

Thought you were going 🤣

DBSFstupid · 10/11/2024 10:57

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 09:28

It's not meaningless to pause and remind ourselves of the sacrifice others made/make on our behalf.

Agreed 100%.

Tink3rbell30 · 10/11/2024 10:56

How disgusting and disrespectful if anyone was to continue talking and ignored it

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 10:56

Mittens67 · 10/11/2024 10:53

I completely agree.
So many pious people who in actual fact don’t do anything to help anyone except themselves but wear a poppy as if this makes them a good person.

Except nobody has said anything of the sort. 🫣

Jellycatspyjamas · 10/11/2024 10:56

I've always wanted to ask- how does that work exactly (the not believing in war)? If, for example, your country is invaded you think it shouldn't be defended?

Not believing in war is different to not agreeing with war. I know wars happen, I don’t think war is a good thing and dislike the concept of the “glorious dead”. I don’t think there is any glory in death. I do take part in acts of remembrance because it is important, for me, to remember lives lost and ruined on all sides by acts of war.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 10:54

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 10:51

I've always wanted to ask- how does that work exactly (the not believing in war)? If, for example, your country is invaded you think it shouldn't be defended?

Most of us are definitely speaking from the luxury of not being alive at a time when our liberty or our country's borders are under threat.

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