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If you don’t want to observe two minute silence- don’t be out

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Mokel · 10/11/2024 08:46

Every Remembrance Sunday and Nov 11th, when I worked at retail, we did a tannoy announcement with 5 min, 2 min before to inform customers that the store will be observing the 2 min silence. Then another to start it.

Every time there were customers who kept talking. Plus one time a woman in her 50s shouted “why can’t anyone serve me some fucking fags?” Everyone just looked at her. Some had the courage to say how disrespectful she was once the silence ended.

If you are unable or refuse to observe the silence at 11am today or tomorrow, please don’t be in a public place.

OP posts:
bagpuss90 · 12/11/2024 19:51

Two minutes out of anyone’s life isn’t going to hurt anyone

BlueSilverCats · 12/11/2024 19:49

@BakedAlaska12

Here the the British values.

democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, mutual respect, and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs

Given your posts , doesn't look like your views align with British values either.

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:48

BarbaraHoward · 12/11/2024 19:45

So you think the Irish should leave Northern Ireland?

You're really not making any kind of decent argument here. You seem completely ignorant of the decades of bloodshed from statements like this, not to mention the groundbreaking peace process that means our children are not growing up in conflict.

Genuinely horrified that someone could type these things.

What happened to "Lest we forget"?

Thinking the same as the British always used to.
Chuck out, enslave or kill the locals and take what they want

Blimey and I thought we’d moved on.
It’s disgusting.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/11/2024 19:47

When you're in a hole, put the shovel down.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 19:46

BarbaraHoward · 12/11/2024 19:45

So you think the Irish should leave Northern Ireland?

You're really not making any kind of decent argument here. You seem completely ignorant of the decades of bloodshed from statements like this, not to mention the groundbreaking peace process that means our children are not growing up in conflict.

Genuinely horrified that someone could type these things.

What happened to "Lest we forget"?

I genuinely think it's odd to live in a country you hate when you have other options.

BarbaraHoward · 12/11/2024 19:45

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 19:42

In which case she has a passport which entitles her to live anywhere in the EU if she hates the UK so much.

So you think the Irish should leave Northern Ireland?

You're really not making any kind of decent argument here. You seem completely ignorant of the decades of bloodshed from statements like this, not to mention the groundbreaking peace process that means our children are not growing up in conflict.

Genuinely horrified that someone could type these things.

What happened to "Lest we forget"?

BarbaraHoward · 12/11/2024 19:42

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:13

You're not being asked to love them. You're literally being asked not to disturb other people for TWO WHOLE MINUTES PER YEAR.

Lots of posts like this. I'm only skimming at this stage, but I don't think anyone has said they would disrupt anyone else's observance of the silence, just that they would quietly carry on with their own business. Which is surely fair enough in the supermarket. At a service, different story.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 19:42

BarbaraHoward · 12/11/2024 19:38

Dear sweet zombie jesus are you that ill informed? She's from Derry. The part of the UK where the British Army opened fire on its own citizens. Innocent people in the streets, not terrorists.

In which case she has a passport which entitles her to live anywhere in the EU if she hates the UK so much.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 12/11/2024 19:39

If someone feels that strongly about actions of the British Army, their values probably don’t align with that of the British culture

British Army has nothing whatsoever to do with British culture, you'd have to be extremely narrow of view to think that. British culture has so many other international cultures interwoven and is so much richer for that.

How about everybody lets everybody else think and do what they like when it comes to observing the 2 minute silence or not? Neither 'side' to disrupt the other. Let us shop, we'll let you stand there (but not in our way).

BarbaraHoward · 12/11/2024 19:38

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

Dear sweet zombie jesus are you that ill informed? She's from Derry. The part of the UK where the British Army opened fire on its own citizens. Innocent people in the streets, not terrorists.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 19:31

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:19

Don’t forget the South too.
The entire island of Ireland was colonised by the British and there are many barracks still across the country as evidence of that.

I don't think the OP is in Ireland.

BigManLittleDignity · 12/11/2024 19:29

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

I personally don’t hate or even dislike the British Armed Forces. Your argument is ridiculous though. Those who are so deeply affected and need total silence from others for 2 minutes have various options including annual leave or asking your manager to step outside.

That said, I wonder how many retail workers actually feel strongly about everyone being quiet and observing the 2 minute silence. The people on here whinging about the general public going about their business whilst also doing general chores don’t count. I’m talking about people who work in places and serve the public.

Snoopyandlucy · 12/11/2024 19:22

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:19

Don’t forget the South too.
The entire island of Ireland was colonised by the British and there are many barracks still across the country as evidence of that.

I know, but people in ROI aren’t living in the UK anymore.

ButterMints · 12/11/2024 19:21

Haha. Every year someone spectacularly fails to grasp that the soldiers commemorated on 11th November died to ensure that British people were able to remain free to make their own decisions about who to admire, who to celebrate, who to worship, who to ignore etc etc.

Every year.

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:19

Snoopyandlucy · 12/11/2024 19:16

Well for some people it’s because their home was colonised by the British, wasn’t it?
(Does Northern Ireland ring any bells?)

Don’t forget the South too.
The entire island of Ireland was colonised by the British and there are many barracks still across the country as evidence of that.

Snoopyandlucy · 12/11/2024 19:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

Well for some people it’s because their home was colonised by the British, wasn’t it?
(Does Northern Ireland ring any bells?)

CG90 · 12/11/2024 19:16

BakedAlaska12 · 12/11/2024 19:11

To an extent I agree.

If someone feels that strongly about actions of the British Army, their values probably don’t align with that of the British culture and I can’t see how they would be happy here.

If someone doesn’t agree with the British Army and therefore won’t do the two minute silence but still respect others rights to do so, that is different and a more balanced way to look at something you dislike, but put up with.

I don’t think there’s a one size fits all culture in the UK.

Where I live in Scotland I’m very happy, there’s plenty of people with similar values in my area (and further).

BakedAlaska12 · 12/11/2024 19:11

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

To an extent I agree.

If someone feels that strongly about actions of the British Army, their values probably don’t align with that of the British culture and I can’t see how they would be happy here.

If someone doesn’t agree with the British Army and therefore won’t do the two minute silence but still respect others rights to do so, that is different and a more balanced way to look at something you dislike, but put up with.

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:11

CG90 · 12/11/2024 19:09

I don’t like the weather in Scotland, wonder if I can leave…

😂

Obviously you should leave
how dare you stay 🤣

CG90 · 12/11/2024 19:09

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:07

🤣
Do we all love everyone in the country we live in…did all the Tory haters leave, have all the Labour haters left

Thats such a weird thing to stay

( As an aside, given that the English took everything from our family many were forced to leave with nothing. …… Thanks Trevalyan!
Others starved or were killed before, then and more recently
My family had nothing left, all confiscated )

I don’t like the weather in Scotland, wonder if I can leave…

😂

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 19:07

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

🤣
Do we all love everyone in the country we live in…did all the Tory haters leave, have all the Labour haters left

Thats such a weird thing to stay

( As an aside, given that the English took everything from our family many were forced to leave with nothing. …… Thanks Trevalyan!
Others starved or were killed before, then and more recently
My family had nothing left, all confiscated )

AnnieSnap · 12/11/2024 19:05

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

Wow! You’ll be saying “if you don’t like Brexit, leave the country” next! 🙄

AnnieSnap · 12/11/2024 19:03

Not to mention the (at least) hundreds of British Soldiers who having gone to pieces, were shot for cowardice by other British Soldiers under orders. There are many hypocrisies hidden in the jumped-up patriotism of all this.

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 18:58

Wonder if anyone will start looking at suitable places for reflection, like our local area do.
So they are never disturbed again…. Think it will come to it soon

This thread at least clearly shows the need.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/11/2024 18:55

StandingSideBySide · 12/11/2024 18:53

Not bothered about them
They are not for The British Armed forces.

Surely that’s obvious

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?