If you don’t want to observe two minute silence- don’t be out

No, it hasn't. This was discussed quite extensively upthread. It wasn't observed on the day at all on the 11th/nationwide outwith ceremonies on the Sunday for decades and was re-introduced for electioneering purposes in the 1990s.

That's ridiculous on many fronts. I was at a toddler group this morning everyone attempted silence to the best of their ability nothing like shouting serve me a fag/coffee etc. No child was ignored
If you visit a Muslim country you change your style of dress not to offend, if you visit a church in Italy you don't walk in wearing a bikini

I don't need anything but you live in a country that has always marked this day not talking for 2 minutes so you don't disturb others doesn't rob you of anything but can be extremely distracting for people who want to focus. It's a custom in this country just like dressing respectfully in some countries you don't have to believe in it to be respectful to others.

It's always been observed on the day as well.

Are you seriously extracting urine over a dropped e....get a life and don't be so mean

This is silly. Some people forget, some people can't understand, children for example or some people with MH or ND.
Some people don't care.. and I don't agree with them but it's within their rights not to care. This isn't Some dictatorship

Performativity.

This thread, like most all anonymous public urinating contests, is a masterclass in it.

None of the usual opinionated false-equivalence and disingenuous self-righteousness has been omitted here. How on Earth did we manage without this wall called the internet to scribble all our hypocrisy on? I mean you can hardly get a conversation going these days for people gawping and thumbing at their phones, so what could it be about those particular two minutes that make it so difficult to keep shtum?

Performative ignorance perhaps?

Thankyou Barbara

Everyone has a choice, it’s called democracy.

I’d rather stand in silence for that on another day.

And that is absolutely fine, and no one has said otherwise.

But surely when you read @StandingSideBySide 's post you can see she certainly shouldn't be obliged to observe it, and should be free to go about her business?

I'm part Irish.

So many Irish soldiers fought and died in the wars. I choose to honour their sacrifice.

I expect the people at remembrance parades and services think it's all bit much of a muchness whether you are silent or not if you are just squeezing in two minutes silence between choosing a meal deal and picking up more cat food

Thankfully the majority disagree. A means of conveying respect is never meaningless. It is beyond some people though.

There is no reason for me to stay home at 11 am on Remembrance Sunday because I know that the 2 minutes silence will be observed everywhere I'm likely to go. People with manners will stop whatever they are doing for the duration, whether they 'observe' the silence or not.

And that's not entitled?

It's oh so important to me , but I don't actually have to put any effort or thought into it because other people should enable me to do the silence.

Beautiful.

I am trying to imagine being in the middle of the fruit and veg aisle thinking “do we need bananas?” and then immediately snapping to the 2 minute silence followed by wondering if I should make a shepherds pie for dinner.

I would observe the 2 minute silence wherever I was but I don’t have the same level of emotion about it as some posters on this thread. If people on here seem to think it’s very important (and that’s their belief, so they’re entitled to it) I wonder why they’re in the supermarket. It’s a Sunday, so either go quickly before or pop in after. I think it’s hard to take the moral high ground when you’re all in the same Tesco or wherever.

I am not a big fan of ‘just’ respecting and thinking when it comes without action. I am not suggesting that people who observe the 2 minute silence are all like this but so many people are.

There is no reason for me to stay home at 11 am on Remembrance Sunday because I know that the 2 minutes silence will be observed everywhere I'm likely to go. People with manners will stop whatever they are doing for the duration, whether they 'observe' the silence or not. You'd stand for a national anthem, even if it wasn't your own, and this is no different.

YABU - so sick of the Poppy Facists too. It’s a free choice, no-one should be forced to take part in any of it.
Observe or don’t. Personal choice.

You mean fit in and shut up?
isnt that the kind of attitude we were trying to fight against in the world wars?

How long do we continue to remember the dead of the world wars when we’ve
killed so many more since?

We allow fascism to rise globally and more scarily at home and yet we’re told to go with the flow of the majority, many of whom are the loudest racists and fascists we have in this country, even when those are saying doing so offends them or goes against their beliefs for whatever reason?

This is exactly why we need to move on from this enforced remembrance. How long are we expected to performatively remember the dead from 80-100 years ago wars and yet we turn away from genocides happening now because it doesn’t suit us to stop the predominantly pale skinned country causing the deaths. The hypocrisy is too strong in following the majority. We need to stop being silent and start making a noise against wars and genocides.

Eh?
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I get this! I work in a cafe and we announce to customers about the 2 minutes silence. Guaranteed we still get customers shouting orders as us, I just turn my back on them

Not observing the silence is more performative than observing it really.
Some people are incapable of just going with the flow of majority and making it all about them.

But how else would people know that THEY observe the silence and it's oh so important to them, without moaning about and insulting the ones who don't?

More performative actions for the "likes".

I actually have a question for those in retail. If you choose not to observe the silence, in which I mean, stand still and be quiet, and rather just quietly go about your business, what are the consequences? Would anyone actually be brave enough? In which case it is somewhat coersive, in the same way as being made to wear poppies is. It should be choice, no?? I personally don't like the way that remembrance has become de facto compulsory.

As long as you’re not being prevented from observing the silence and as long as nobody is being abusive, you have no right to tell them what to do.

If observing the 2 minute silence is so important to you, don’t go to Asda at 11 am on Rememberance Sunday. If you are working in a supermarket, then step back quietly and as I said, what other people are doing is none of your business.

I did read your actual words. I may have omitted to write “only for” but the post still stands.

I didn't say it wasn't for remembering those in the British Armed Services, I said it wasnt only for that. Please read the actual words.