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To think that people should be a bit more sensitive when announcing pregnancy

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SophieRules · 09/11/2024 08:42

My ‘friend’ knows that I had a miscarriage recently but rang me out of the blue on video call and showed me an image of her 12 week scan to announce her pregnancy. I would have preferred a message. I am of course delighted for her but I think if someone has recently experienced baby loss it feels insensitive to be showing them picture of scans and to tell the face to face out of the blue. Please if you are in this situation and you know someone is struggling send them a message so they have a bit of privacy when reacting.

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DappledThings · 09/11/2024 09:48

Sharing a scan photo with anyone unless they've actively asked to see it is crass at the best of times, let alone in these circumstances

SapphireOpal · 09/11/2024 09:48

ZekeZeke · 09/11/2024 09:40

Pre social a close relative media dropped over with a bag of sanitary towels and tampax as, innher words she didn't need them because she was pregnant
This was a week after my baby was stillborn.

I didn't fall out with her. I was very happy for her and her DH but it stung.

Christ you're a better woman than I am for not falling out with her for that! I'd have rammed them somewhere.

Sorry for your loss 💐

Sometimeswinning · 09/11/2024 09:47

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:21

Only to that person.

That’s a pretty sad answer. I think you may be in a minority for not understanding people wanting to celebrate and announce their life changing news.

Meekmouse · 09/11/2024 09:46

i understand the emotions the op was feeling. I had similar happen to me with out of the blue announcements after a late loss and with a bit of distance of a few years my feelings have changed. I can see things less emotionally now.
it has to be said that many people lack sensitivity. Empathy wouldn’t go astray.

Changingplace · 09/11/2024 09:44

Tangerinenets · 09/11/2024 09:23

It was a bit insensitive but I guess she was just excited and a message isn’t any less sensitive. I think a lot of women do get it sadly so should really think before acting.

I disagree, a message can be read and digested by the person receiving it in their own time. It leaves the response in their hands in their own time, unlike a video message that’s instant.

Coconutter24 · 09/11/2024 09:40

If you recently had a miscarriage then yes a text or something would have been better, maybe your friend got carried away with excitement and couldn’t wait to tell you and just didn’t think

ZekeZeke · 09/11/2024 09:40

Pre social a close relative media dropped over with a bag of sanitary towels and tampax as, innher words she didn't need them because she was pregnant
This was a week after my baby was stillborn.

I didn't fall out with her. I was very happy for her and her DH but it stung.

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:36

KimberleyClark · 09/11/2024 09:33

This. Don’t know why some people have to dramatise it - “Ta-da! I’m pregnant!”

Exactly! It's too much and I'm sure in the pre social media age it must have been much more tame.

KimberleyClark · 09/11/2024 09:33

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 08:58

Thing is it's not important. Not really. That's what's making it so painful is the BIG WOOOOP ANNOUNCEMENT when it just needs to be a "so I'm pregnant"

This. Don’t know why some people have to dramatise it - “Ta-da! I’m pregnant!”

ChiliFiend · 09/11/2024 09:33

I've never miscarried but I still know not to do something like that. Surely everyone knows you send a text and let the recipient process any pain it causes them in private, even if they are also happy for you. That was insensitive of her.

romdowa · 09/11/2024 09:29

Honestly I think everyone is different. My friend went through several rounds of ivf and all failed, there's no hope she can have children without it and can't afford more. She had always told me that she didn't want me to hide any pregnancy from her or to be worried to tell her. Her sister hid a pregnancy from her till she was nearly 20 weeks and that hurt her more. Her sister also just text her and she found that hurtful too. It's extremely hard to get it right as everyone will differ so much in how they want the news delivered

thepariscrimefiles · 09/11/2024 09:29

ChillysWaterBottle · 09/11/2024 09:04

Of course it's important. It's a huge life changing event.

It's not an important event to OP though. She is not a close relative, she is a friend who has recently lost a baby. It would be difficult to hide her shock on a video call. It was a really insensitive way to break the news.

BarbaraHoward · 09/11/2024 09:28

ChillysWaterBottle · 09/11/2024 09:24

A) no, not only to that person. B) even if it was, the fact it's important to your friend should mean it's important to you too.

OP has said she's delighted for her friend.

It's pretty normal for someone who's recently had a loss to feel happy for their friend while also feeling sad that it's not them too. By video calling out of the blue, the friend put OP on the spot to only show one of those emotions on her face.

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:26

ChillysWaterBottle · 09/11/2024 09:24

A) no, not only to that person. B) even if it was, the fact it's important to your friend should mean it's important to you too.

There's no need to go OTT with the announcement. It's really odd to be waving a scan photo at someone unsolicited

MargaretThursday · 09/11/2024 09:26

Sorry for your loss. Flowers

The problem is that in that situation, I'd appreciate being told it by text/email. I can process it alone and offer calm congratulations at the level I feel capable of, when I feel up to it.

But on here I've seen people just as upset over getting a text in that situation and saying that's unfeeling. They would rather be told in person or by phone call if not possible.

And I've also seen people upset because they weren't told.

So I'm not sure you can win. Whichever method you choose you can upset someone, who feels you should have done it another way. And I'm not sure you would know which way you'd prefer until you were in that position.

If she's not normally insensitive, then put it down to one of those things that she did what she thought was best, but wasn't. Don't hold it against her, and assume she did it from the best of motives.

ChillysWaterBottle · 09/11/2024 09:24

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:21

Only to that person.

A) no, not only to that person. B) even if it was, the fact it's important to your friend should mean it's important to you too.

Tangerinenets · 09/11/2024 09:23

It was a bit insensitive but I guess she was just excited and a message isn’t any less sensitive. I think a lot of women do get it sadly so should really think before acting.

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:21

ChillysWaterBottle · 09/11/2024 09:04

Of course it's important. It's a huge life changing event.

Only to that person.

LaLaLaurie · 09/11/2024 09:20

It is a little sensitive but I don’t believe others should have to hide their own joy and excitement.

Screamingabdabz · 09/11/2024 09:19

I have no experience of this but I understand it’s quite a common thing if MN is anything to go by. I guess people are just so excited and why shouldn’t they be? Of course your grief matters too but I don’t think it’s being insensitive. More thoughtless. Try to see it that she’s not intending to hurt you, she’s as much swept in the emotion of a life-changing event as you are.

BarbaraHoward · 09/11/2024 09:18

I think a good rule of thumb is to assume anyone but particularly women of childbearing age may be feeling sensitive about pregnancy announcements unless you know otherwise.

If you have definite reason to suspect it - and there's not much more definite than knowing about a recent miscarriage - then don't video call someone out of the blue, putting them on the spot to come up with a happy face.

Signed, someone who had a very easy time with TTC but also isn't a complete dick.

ChillysWaterBottle · 09/11/2024 09:16

I'm sorry about your loss OP.

Despite people on these threads acting like it's an obvious simple answer, it isn't really. People have different responses to a situation like pregnancy loss and there isn't a one size fits all. When I lost a pregnancy in a particularly brutal way, a friend who I'd scheduled to visit her new born kindly and sensitively suggested we postpone. I was secretly hugely offended she'd even suggested it - other people's pregnancies, babies etc didn't bother me one jot, and I was annoyed she'd think I was that kind of person. Another person may have been hugely relieved and considered it really thoughtful.

Some people like to know in advance so they can process by themselves, others to be told in groups so the pressure is off them to respond appropriately immediately, some people like to be told by text, others find that rude and abrupt and cold.

I think everyone should do their best but I sometimes feel the expectation of empathy only goes one way in these threads (not you OP, I mean some of the responses they tend to get).

Kingofthetyrantlizards · 09/11/2024 09:16

Kingofthetyrantlizards · 09/11/2024 09:15

I'm so so sorry this happened to you FlowersFlowers

Sorry - not sure why that's showing an angry face - meant to be flowers!

Kingofthetyrantlizards · 09/11/2024 09:15

CrazyCatLady008 · 09/11/2024 08:48

I lost triplets at 20 weeks, the day of their funeral my cousin (who knew as my aunt told her) rang me and announced she was pregnant and then proceeded to post it on Facebook. Angry

People just don't get it.

I'm so so sorry this happened to you FlowersFlowers

PelicanPopcorn · 09/11/2024 09:13

Just wanted to say thanks for posting OP and sorry you're having such a a hard time. I think I would always be sensitive to this but because I know so many people who have had miscarriages and difficult pregnancies, but I do think it's really helpful to know how you would prefer things are handled - and to remind people when they get carried away.