Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

Or.....maybe you're just wrong every now and again. A difficult thing for you to comprehend, I'm sure.

All they have to do is release the fucking hostages. They are even keeping dead bodies hostage. It is sick.

God how utterly horrific. There could never be any justification for allowing that - no one’s religion/ culture/ traditions makes that ok.

God knows how the world can stop it though.

Exactly this. Is there any way to adopt these girls? I have a spare bedroom and would be willing to take a child and her mother.

I read this this morning in the Telegraph and felt physically sick. Those poor little girls will get raped by old men.

You might want to lay off the booze

Is this a joke?
half the inheritance?
allowed to divorce in some cases?

you also missed out the right to be beaten by their husbands, the right to be raped at 9, the right to be stoned, and the right to almost never get into heaven.

The Prophet ﷺ said: “I was shown paradise, I saw that most of its inhabitants were the poor… and I was shown hell, I saw most of its inhabitants were women.”

41,000 civilians?

how many Hamas were killed then?

Indeed. I remember the story of the father who strapped bombs to his very young daughters who then walked into a police station and blew themselves up. Females are just seen as nothing in these situations

Yes they will, I just wish the western world didn't continue to support them. They are truly horrible people.

Ok I think it's useful on any topic to split out the countries as you have

Although I did wonder whether you thought the rights of women and girls were equitable in Islamic countries to western countries?

Taking a pp quote

It worries me that places like Afghanistan, libya, and Iraq are trying to apply more and more restrictions on women and girls liberty. It feels like parts of the world are going backwards.

Do you feel that is the case?

I don't understand the reference to the Bible?
In medieval times the European countries were wedded to Christianity and Catholicism and then protestant and off shoots.
But, we then went through the enlightenment.

We became enlightened and the strangle hold of religion fell away as new ideas and philosophy came to the fore.
Of course many millions of people see themselves as Christian and practise but that all encompassing strangle hold on every moment of life through the state, kings, devine right and so on has gone.

We are ruled by ourselves in a free and democratic way.

We are light years away from this strangle hold in counties that simply haven't been through the enlightenment so trotting out what some evangelical nutters do in some provincial backwater USA town to try and compare to great swathes of fhe middle East seem utterly irrelevant to me??

He had particular views on Islam though, he thought you couldn’t be a proper muslim if you weren’t an arab. He was definitely a believer (though as you said not an islamist, that would be too universal for him, he was a bit of an arab supremacist) . Though the whole blood quaran (he has a quran written in his own blood, most likely mainly other peoples blood) thing was quite dodgy and I imagine most believers would be horrified by that and not sure how that fits with his personal beliefs.

Racists never like being called out do they?

It worries me that places like Afghanistan, libya, and Iraq are trying to apply more and more restrictions on women and girls liberty. It feels like parts of the world are going backwards. The abortion bans in the USA were appalling enough. It feels like a war on women. I truly fucking hope no other countries decide to follow suit.

The lower age for marriage in Iran is 13 for girls and 15 for boys and lower with the consent of parents. But lets be honest it’s mainly going to be little girls getting married isn’t it.

It’s fucking foul.

I agree that the IDF & Israeli government have shown themselves no better than Hamas. Israel will carry a heavy stain on their reputation for decades over what they've done to Gaza.

Don’t compare me with the way Muslims treat women, thank you - I’m not picking and choosing anything and if you read my post very carefully you’ll see that at no point did I say I agree with any of what I posted. I was simply answering a poster who said that the Bible didn’t provide a basis on which the case for prohibition of women priests could be made. Like it or not, these are some of the scriptures on which swathes of the Christian church rely to exclude women clergy. And on which fundamental Christians judge those churches who do include women in the clergy. Didn’t say I agree with it.

What Hamas did to Israel was inhumane and terrifying. That cannot stand.

You can go down that route on either side as far as you want. It doesn’t help the women and girls involved does it ? The Palestinian civilians themselves are being blamed on some threads for ‘electing’ Hamas to power. Despite the fact that no free elections have been held in Gaza since 2006. And only Israel is guilty of genocide. Which is what this is.

Agree. This poster was answering me. Those who see the abortion laws in the US as a result of rescinding Roe v Wade in black and white aren’t grasping the issues. It’s not about protecting the unborn. It’s an attack on womens’ rights, which if allowed to run its’ course will result in many states treating women like walking incubators with no rights above those of their unborn child, at risk from second rate health care because many obstetric procedures are outlawed and medics are in fear of losing their licences/imprisonment.

You started it with your own comment which brought nothing to the conversation. Mine was a point made from personal observation despite not being able to quote figures.

You don't and didn't have to engage with me. You're capable of ignoring me.

The problem is that the aid agencies who go in to help in Gaza report seeing absolutely no evidence of Hamas in these areas. Where is the proof ? There is a definition of what constitutes a human shield under international law. Several agencies have said that there is no evidence that Hamas meets this definition. Whereas there is evidence of Israel doing exactly the same with kidnapped Palestinians. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

And if you think ‘normal life’ will ever be resumed while Israel continues its’ occupation and apartheid policies, you’re deluded.

Why are you still engaging with me?

You responded to one of my posts with a ridiculous statement. When I asked you to clarify you made another ridiculous post and now a third?

Go out for a walk and get some fresh air.

The lowering of the age of consent to 4 was an aim of PIE - the Paedophile Information Exchange - in the 70s. Some Labour politicians supported it (no, they were not Muslims).

Except Israel are horrible terrorists.