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Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

A new law proposed by ultra conservative Shia Muslim parties seeks to strip women and girls of their rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine

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EasternStandard · 10/11/2024 20:02

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 19:45

I think you need to explain again like I’m a child where I have been anti-Semitic? I know you were probably using this as a silencing tactic but it won’t work. I believe you are islamophobic. That should be as disgusting as being anti-Semitic. If it’s not as disgusting I would reflect on why not?

@Justiceeternal do you think the rights of women and girls are equal in the west and Islamic countries?

ACynicalDad · 10/11/2024 20:01

Kids have their 9th birthday in year 4. That is beyond grim.

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 19:58

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Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 19:45

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 19:40

Shame on you for your anti-semitism. It is war and my interest as a woman is with the west prevailing. The only genocide is the one that Hamas is committed to against the Jews.

Shame on you also for mischaractering and misrepresenting my argument. But perhaps that's the best you can manage.

I think you need to explain again like I’m a child where I have been anti-Semitic? I know you were probably using this as a silencing tactic but it won’t work. I believe you are islamophobic. That should be as disgusting as being anti-Semitic. If it’s not as disgusting I would reflect on why not?

fedup33 · 10/11/2024 19:42

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:16

If you’re gonna comment, please read the whole thread.

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I had a quick scroll through, am I allowed to ask now please?

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 19:40

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 19:01

Wow: muslims are going take over the world and oppress all women. You do know, that you are the one who sounds like the child right? Paranoid much? So if Israel manages to genocide all the Palestinians and Lebanese we will be safe?!

Shame on you for being a g-side supporter. How you can see all the men, women and children being killed and still support the oppressor beggars belief. Shame!

Shame on you for your anti-semitism. It is war and my interest as a woman is with the west prevailing. The only genocide is the one that Hamas is committed to against the Jews.

Shame on you also for mischaractering and misrepresenting my argument. But perhaps that's the best you can manage.

Fizzle1 · 10/11/2024 19:31

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I wasn’t going to comment on the Israeli related posts, (although personally I have strong feelings on the matters) as one of the few posters on this topic living in Iraq, I wanted to keep this post focussed on the Iraq issues.

However I would like to say, respectfully, I don’t agree with you that this has anything to do with Israel - I also do not agree with you that people in any of the Middle East countries I’ve lived in would benefit from Israel “winning” - I’ve intentionally put “winning” in quotation marks as what does “winning” mean or look like anymore….The Israeli state is currently responsible for the following - “More women and children have been killed in Gaza by the Israeli military over the past year than the equivalent period of any other conflict over the past two decades” (quote from Oxfam press release Sep 2024)

Irregardless or whether this is intentional or not, (as everyone is entitled to their own opinions) it doesn’t show a high regard for the lives of (predominantly) Muslim and Arab women and children. Iraq and other Middle Eastern country have been affected by countless wars over the last generation, and overall I think the one thing we should take away from these experiences is - I do not think supporting ANY country (be that Israel / US / Iraq or even Canada) whose concept of delivering “safety” to a specific group of people (such as women and children in this example) is to blow the country to bits and accidentally or intentionally kill thousands of women and children (current Israeli/ Gaza conflict) or 1 million individuals (US invasion of Iraq) in the process.

I think collectively we can probably all think of much better ways to advance the rights of women and children in the Middle East than by supporting ANY type of armed conflict no matter what that conflict may be.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 19:04

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 19:00

Maybe with an argument? At the moment you have nothing.

Read my previous posts. Stop believing everything you see in the media and use a bit of intelligence.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 19:01

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:59

lol Must be nice to live in a world where you dismiss anything because ‘the Jews can’t be trusted’

look at the history since 1947 and tell me honestly that you trust Israel to do the right thing.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 19:01

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Wow: muslims are going take over the world and oppress all women. You do know, that you are the one who sounds like the child right? Paranoid much? So if Israel manages to genocide all the Palestinians and Lebanese we will be safe?!

Shame on you for being a g-side supporter. How you can see all the men, women and children being killed and still support the oppressor beggars belief. Shame!

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 19:00

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:24

Jesus wept. Don’t know where to start with this.

Maybe with an argument? At the moment you have nothing.

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:59

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:17

Meant for this post: Keep trying. It has been proven multiple times that Israel and IDF have lied. They are not a reliable source.

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lol Must be nice to live in a world where you dismiss anything because ‘the Jews can’t be trusted’

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:51

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:35

To quote a previous poster ‘Jesus wept’ . I know it has worked before but repeating something over and over again doesn’t make it the truth. Why are you so invested in propagating this?

Have it out with Wikipedia then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha. Or maybe pop over to 'ask a Muslim' and tell them they've got it wrong. https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/did-prophet-muhammad-marry-a-child/

Aisha - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:48

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Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:36

caringcarer · 10/11/2024 13:28

It's been shown that Hezbollah have infiltrated aid workers so it's hard to know which aid workers are genuine. Same as they hide in nurseries and schools.

Utter bollocks. Where is the proof and where is the justification for the attack based on unreliable intelligence ? And where is your empathy for innocent little children blown to pieces as a result, given how heartbroken you were about 9 year olds being raped in Iraq ? Or is your empathy based on race and circumstance ?

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:35

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:21

Mohammed married a six year old and raped her when she was nine.

To quote a previous poster ‘Jesus wept’ . I know it has worked before but repeating something over and over again doesn’t make it the truth. Why are you so invested in propagating this?

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:31

caringcarer · 10/11/2024 13:28

It's been shown that Hezbollah have infiltrated aid workers so it's hard to know which aid workers are genuine. Same as they hide in nurseries and schools.

Sorry but this is utter bullshit. There was no excuse for what Israel did. The intelligence was wrong. They don’t care. What do you think is going to happen to the land that is now Gaza now that Israel has the excuse to lay waste to it. Truthfully, what do you think Israel will do once it’s rendered uninhabitable ?

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:25

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:19

How is this going to help women and children in Iraq?

In the USA, between 2010 - 2015, 6 girls aged 12 were married. Obviously that is 6 too many. And if you look at 14 - 16 year olds, that number goes up to 985, which is shocking. But I don't see how helping these particular children does anything for children in Iraq, in a completely different legal and cultural context where the problem is way more pervasive and religiously supported. Why do we have to move the discussion to the USA - just so we can say how bad the West is?

Think about what you're doing, if every time someone raises the evils perpetrated against women and children in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt etc etc you say, but what about the USA? Makes it seem like you think only Western children matter. Why can't we care about people in other places?

But this whole thread is about proving Iraq and therefore muslims are all bad and therefore Israel has to be supported to destroy them, no? When the poster living in Iraq has mentioned several times, the law was not passed. Why are we still discussing that? Explain it to me like I’m a child: why are we discussing something that was protested against and not passed as law.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:24

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:06

Western countries overthrew a dictator. What came next was up to Iraqs and Iranians!

everything bad that happens to Iraq from now on isn’t the fault of the west.

Jesus wept. Don’t know where to start with this.

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:21

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 15:43

Any Hadith that contradicts the Quran should be discounted. Sex is only permissible if it causes no harm to either party. Some critical thinking from all parties is expected. Blind faith is not something I believe in. I believe in Prophet Mohammed and his teachings. Not the people who propagate untruths for their own ends. Islam encourages to you to expand your knowledge. As mentioned to a previous poster, all the information is out there if you look for it.
Peace be with you too. I hope you have the courage to seek the truth too.

Mohammed married a six year old and raped her when she was nine.

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:19

sashh · 10/11/2024 09:50

What can western governments do? Well the USA could close the loopholes that allow 9 year olds to marry. And in particular stop child rapist from marrying their victim to avoid prosecution.

How is this going to help women and children in Iraq?

In the USA, between 2010 - 2015, 6 girls aged 12 were married. Obviously that is 6 too many. And if you look at 14 - 16 year olds, that number goes up to 985, which is shocking. But I don't see how helping these particular children does anything for children in Iraq, in a completely different legal and cultural context where the problem is way more pervasive and religiously supported. Why do we have to move the discussion to the USA - just so we can say how bad the West is?

Think about what you're doing, if every time someone raises the evils perpetrated against women and children in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt etc etc you say, but what about the USA? Makes it seem like you think only Western children matter. Why can't we care about people in other places?

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:17

Meant for this post: Keep trying. It has been proven multiple times that Israel and IDF have lied. They are not a reliable source.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:16

fedup33 · 10/11/2024 18:10

Why did the prophet marry a 6 year old? Please anybody?

If you’re gonna comment, please read the whole thread.

fedup33 · 10/11/2024 18:10

Why did the prophet marry a 6 year old? Please anybody?

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:08

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 13:39

This is untrue. There is no evidence to support that at all. Please stop spreading misinformation. Why don’t you try checking your facts - or is the goal to spread lies? Why is that I wonder? You know there is so much information out there that people cannot spread lies anymore without it being fact checked.

try this

news.sky.com/story/amp/hamas-leader-in-lebanon-killed-by-israel-was-un-employee-unwra-confirms-13225258