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Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

A new law proposed by ultra conservative Shia Muslim parties seeks to strip women and girls of their rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine

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MabelMora · 09/11/2024 08:07

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 07:58

As asked, in what Muslim country are women's rights protected and girls will have the same equal access to opportunities as her male counterparts?
However when reading around the age of consent, apparently Germany will lower there's to 6 under some circumstances and many women from thr US claim that in reality (prosecutions etc) it might as well be 12 in some states.

Germany will lower the age of consent to 6 in some circumstances?? I have googled and it seems it's 14 there. What do you mean by 6 in some circumstances?

Twiglets1 · 09/11/2024 08:06

I didn’t know about this until the Telegraph reported it & it’s absolutely disgusting.

Attempts to try to minimise it by saying it’s old news or whatever is horrible also. What if it were your daughter or even yourself as a 9 year old? Why is the whole world not appalled by this?

Teeh · 09/11/2024 08:04

VeraYin · 09/11/2024 08:01

But the current age of 11 is horrific, even if 9 is 'only' a proposal at this stage.

I agree, Western governments should have the courage to call out countries with anything other than equal rights for women.

I think it says in the article current age of consent is 18?

DinosaurMunch · 09/11/2024 08:03

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 07:58

As asked, in what Muslim country are women's rights protected and girls will have the same equal access to opportunities as her male counterparts?
However when reading around the age of consent, apparently Germany will lower there's to 6 under some circumstances and many women from thr US claim that in reality (prosecutions etc) it might as well be 12 in some states.

Bit of a red herring, most non Muslim countries aren't great for women's rights either. Even in Western Europe, women's rights have been a recent development.

Racist religious stereotypes will not help. Nor will war.

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 08:03

@Batmanisaplaceinturkey you could say that at least they are available to stockpile. Contraception or abortion isn't available at all in many countries.

How many women voted for current regimes outside of the USA and Europe?

VeraYin · 09/11/2024 08:01

But the current age of 11 is horrific, even if 9 is 'only' a proposal at this stage.

I agree, Western governments should have the courage to call out countries with anything other than equal rights for women.

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 08:00

MissyB1 · 09/11/2024 07:56

Oi! Don't bring your racism into this! Plenty of Muslims do not support Sharia law anyway. Do not lump all Muslims together and judge them on what Iraq are doing, you make yourself sound like a racist idiot.

So it won't happen because of mass protests by everyone? India is changing their rape culture via protests.

Edingril · 09/11/2024 07:59

And this is a surprise to people?

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:58

Diomi · 09/11/2024 07:52

You must be irrationally obsessed with Trump if that is your take on this story.

It's old news though. Meanwhile there are reports women in America are stockpiling abortion pills. That's more current news. Why would a right wing paper 'distract' with old news eh?

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 07:58

DinosaurMunch · 09/11/2024 07:46

Er what? That's a bit of a reach. Plenty of Muslim countries are fine to live in. Even if they weren't, encouraging a war is not going to improve things for women and girls.

As asked, in what Muslim country are women's rights protected and girls will have the same equal access to opportunities as her male counterparts?
However when reading around the age of consent, apparently Germany will lower there's to 6 under some circumstances and many women from thr US claim that in reality (prosecutions etc) it might as well be 12 in some states.

AgnesX · 09/11/2024 07:57

That country gets worse every passing day.

And then people wonder why there's an increase in immigration.

I wish there was something that could be done.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 09/11/2024 07:57

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:47

70% of those killed in Gaza by Israel are women and children. Better off dead yeah?

Israel has maintained one of the lowest civilian to combatant ratios in the history of urban warfare, after a terrorist attack that literally decimated their population, and that was achieved by taking advantage of increased work permits and softening of the border.

MissyB1 · 09/11/2024 07:56

wrongthinker · 09/11/2024 07:44

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

Oi! Don't bring your racism into this! Plenty of Muslims do not support Sharia law anyway. Do not lump all Muslims together and judge them on what Iraq are doing, you make yourself sound like a racist idiot.

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:56

Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

This news is TWO months old. Telegraph have nothing better to do? As if they give a damn about Muslim girls in Iraq.
Old news and there is opposition to it:
www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/09/proposed-iraqi-law-change-would-legalise-child-say-activists

Newrumpus · 09/11/2024 07:55

Diomi · 09/11/2024 07:52

You must be irrationally obsessed with Trump if that is your take on this story.

Yeah - even for Mumsnet that is a wacky response.

Dreamerinme · 09/11/2024 07:55

It’s unbelievable in the 21st century that there are nations who are so utterly backwards and disgusting in their treatment of women and girls.

What kind of man in Iraq wants a 9yo wife? If he later has daughters and loves them does he actually think I know what, let’s marry my beloved DD off to another man/DH and let him subject her to rape and DV because the law says I can. What a horrific mentality to have and perpetuate in law.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 09/11/2024 07:54

wrongthinker · 09/11/2024 07:44

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

Wrong thinker indeed. I completely agree.

GreatestAtuin · 09/11/2024 07:54

They mean they want to legalise raping children. Lovely.

DinosaurMunch · 09/11/2024 07:54

There seems to be a bit of a pattern here. Interfere in another country's politics, end up with extreme governments and human rights disasters. Iraq, Afghanistan, Congo and many more. Western imposed puppet governments never last

Diomi · 09/11/2024 07:52

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:49

Here we go. A megalomaniac is in charge in the US but the Telegraph wants to distract us with a PROPOSED law.
Iraq was a better place for women before the West got involved.

You must be irrationally obsessed with Trump if that is your take on this story.

Catsarelovely · 09/11/2024 07:52

I think that's appalling and disgusting. Poor girls 😢Surely other countries will stop this?

wrongthinker · 09/11/2024 07:51

DinosaurMunch · 09/11/2024 07:46

Er what? That's a bit of a reach. Plenty of Muslim countries are fine to live in. Even if they weren't, encouraging a war is not going to improve things for women and girls.

Which Muslim countries have equal rights for women/protections for girls? I think the West needs to have the courage of its convictions to say women are equal citizens and girls should be protected.

If Israel is destroyed don't kid yourself that women and girls in the west are going to continue to be free.

Dweetfidilove · 09/11/2024 07:50

wrongthinker · 09/11/2024 07:44

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

Are you suggesting we support them being killed instead?

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:49

Here we go. A megalomaniac is in charge in the US but the Telegraph wants to distract us with a PROPOSED law.
Iraq was a better place for women before the West got involved.