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Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

A new law proposed by ultra conservative Shia Muslim parties seeks to strip women and girls of their rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine

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Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:22

I believe that it is possible to be spiritual without religious belief.

Scirocco · 09/11/2024 09:21

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 09/11/2024 09:17

Abhorrent rape disguised as religious belief

And recognised by many Muslims as being unacceptable. That's why there are Muslim politicians and Muslim activists leading the (largely unpublicised) efforts to prevent this bill from becoming law, among the other things being done to advocate for progress on women's rights in the face of extremely conservative (mostly) men pushing a hardline agenda to meet their own wants rather than women's needs.

Vanessashanessajenkins2 · 09/11/2024 09:19

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Fair enough but for me faith helps me believe in something better to come. Its a very personal spiritual thing.

I don't look at the actions of humans who are weak, despicable and disgusting predators and judge the entire community because of it.

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:17

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 09/11/2024 09:17

Abhorrent rape disguised as religious belief

Not even disguised. Excused.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 09/11/2024 09:17

Abhorrent rape disguised as religious belief

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:17

Simonjt · 09/11/2024 09:12

I feel very similar about christianity, look at Selby who thinks its his right to support rapists and abusers, Selby who is still fawned over.

I agree.

I don't pick any religion over Islam. But Islam seems particularly dictatorial and cruel to women. I don't like the creep of it in this country and being afraid of being called racist is allowing a lot of women and girls to be treated appallingly. I'm not OK with that.

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:14

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peanutbuttertoasty · 09/11/2024 09:14

Pedophiles.

OrangeCarrot · 09/11/2024 09:13

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I feel very similar about christianity, look at Selby who thinks its his right to support rapists and abusers, Selby who is still fawned over.

Vanessashanessajenkins2 · 09/11/2024 09:12

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Not in my name thanks.

Why is it that to people like you, Muslims are accountable for the actions of EVERY Muslim but nobody else is. Am I to blame for this now ? Is it my fault just because i am a muslim?

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 09/11/2024 09:08

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:49

Here we go. A megalomaniac is in charge in the US but the Telegraph wants to distract us with a PROPOSED law.
Iraq was a better place for women before the West got involved.

@Batmanisaplaceinturkey , your comment shocks me it really does but I suppose it is to be expected from a certain type of person. Do you really hate everything that the right of politics represents so much or perhaps have such a determination to see no wrong in a particular special group that you can’t set aside any bigotry you may have to see the inhumanity and horrors in this ‘proposal’?
For your information it has been proposed before and rejected. The reason it warrants reporting now is that politically everything is now aligned to allow this to pass into law. Those poor little girls. 😢

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:04

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Anyotherdude · 09/11/2024 09:00

I don’t think that any religion, other than Judaism, has the legacy diaspora that conflates any criticism of its tenets with racism @MissyB1
It is possible to be horrified at misogynistic diktats from a minority of disgusting, entitled MEN, without being racist, you know, and the disguise of these rulings under the mantle of a religion by some MEN has been common (and rightly condemned by many people) in recent times, without the condemnation being jumped on as “racist” (see Roman Catholic Church as a recent example).
The fact that most Muslims don’t agree with the excesses of some branches of Islam is comforting, but not helpful, if this belief isn’t used to oust the more extremist and backward regimes that seek to control women, and children, as though they are a sub-species of humankind…

Fullrecoveryispossible · 09/11/2024 08:59

Allergictoironing · 09/11/2024 08:54

I'm not a Muslim and I found your statement very racist, and not at all "innocent".

As @MissyB1 said, not all Muslims are the same. Similar to Christians really, there are various sects and divisions who interpret the "laws" very differently; they pick & choose the interpretations and writings that suit them. An example of this is that nobody as yet has managed to show me the place in the Bible that says women can never be priests, yet many Christian sects still ban women from this.

That is VERY different to reduce img the age of ‘consent’ to 9. Name one Christan led country that doesn’t allow women to speak, drive, or leave the country without a man

GoldenGail · 09/11/2024 08:58

wrongthinker · 09/11/2024 07:44

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

Its not just muslim countries. There are child marriages in the US with girls as young as 10 .

SallyWD · 09/11/2024 08:57

wrongthinker · 09/11/2024 07:44

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

Oh yes, let's give support to Israel who are killing tens of thousands of people in Palestine. 70% of whom are women and children. Or do those women and children not matter?

Allergictoironing · 09/11/2024 08:54

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I'm not a Muslim and I found your statement very racist, and not at all "innocent".

As @MissyB1 said, not all Muslims are the same. Similar to Christians really, there are various sects and divisions who interpret the "laws" very differently; they pick & choose the interpretations and writings that suit them. An example of this is that nobody as yet has managed to show me the place in the Bible that says women can never be priests, yet many Christian sects still ban women from this.

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 08:52

How is the world allowing this to happen

Fullrecoveryispossible · 09/11/2024 08:52

SoupDragon · 09/11/2024 08:49

She didn't call anyone a racist idiot, she said that they sounded like one.

You, on the other hand, clearly insulted Muslims with your post. Nasty.

Oh for goodness sake, we all know that it was implied that the poster was racist. Islam is NOT a race for a start. Islamist dominated countries ARE appalling for women’s rights. That is a fact.

User1836484645R · 09/11/2024 08:51

User135644 · 09/11/2024 08:47

The west should never have meddled in the Middle East.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to turn the history clock back 1000 years.

HermioneWeasley · 09/11/2024 08:50

It’s disgraceful and appalling. I read yesterday that Libya is introducing mandatory burka as well.

rights of women and girls, never great under those regimes, are hurtling backwards.

you can’t blame Trump or Israel for what these vile theocracies are doing to women and girls. And the comment about immigration increasing is also a red herring as its not women and girls who are fleeing those countries, it’s men who are bringing their misogyny with them.

SoupDragon · 09/11/2024 08:49

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She didn't call anyone a racist idiot, she said that they sounded like one.

You, on the other hand, clearly insulted Muslims with your post. Nasty.

User135644 · 09/11/2024 08:47

DinosaurMunch · 09/11/2024 07:54

There seems to be a bit of a pattern here. Interfere in another country's politics, end up with extreme governments and human rights disasters. Iraq, Afghanistan, Congo and many more. Western imposed puppet governments never last

The west should never have meddled in the Middle East.

EasternStandard · 09/11/2024 08:47

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:49

Here we go. A megalomaniac is in charge in the US but the Telegraph wants to distract us with a PROPOSED law.
Iraq was a better place for women before the West got involved.

What do you think of the consent law in the op? Age 9