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Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

A new law proposed by ultra conservative Shia Muslim parties seeks to strip women and girls of their rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine

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Radamanth · 09/11/2024 09:54

saynotofondant · 09/11/2024 09:49

I was surprised to read about this law so Googled to find out more but couldn’t find anything. Can you share a link?

I doubt a link will be found to support this claim...

Re Christianity, I was brought up as a Catholic and educated at convent school but opted out of Catholicism as soon as I was able (at 12, I chose not to be confirmed), because the teachings of the church around woman didn't sit easily with me, even at a young age.

I could opt out though. I think that's important to note.

miraxxx · 09/11/2024 09:53

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 09/11/2024 07:47

70% of those killed in Gaza by Israel are women and children. Better off dead yeah?

Must change the subject at all costs to them jews!

saynotofondant · 09/11/2024 09:49

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I was surprised to read about this law so Googled to find out more but couldn’t find anything. Can you share a link?

MsNeis · 09/11/2024 09:41

Horrible news...
Hell on Earth.

SallyWD · 09/11/2024 09:41

Ilikeblacklabsandicannotlie · 09/11/2024 09:33

@wrongthinker Here's a report on the extent child marriage in that well known Muslim country, the USA.
US child marriage

Exactly. People always highlight what happens in Muslim countries but turn a blind eye to the rest of the world. My DH's Indian grandma (Hindu) was married at 13. You wouldn't believe the things I read about the lives of girls and women in some South American countries (Christian). Basically, women and girls suffer all over the world. We're lucky that it shocks us because to many, it's just seen as normal, their reality.
Marriage at 9 is horrific, and I truly hope this change in law isn't approved.

Nothatgingerpirate · 09/11/2024 09:38

Men.

Anywherebuthere · 09/11/2024 09:38

Dreamerinme · 09/11/2024 07:55

It’s unbelievable in the 21st century that there are nations who are so utterly backwards and disgusting in their treatment of women and girls.

What kind of man in Iraq wants a 9yo wife? If he later has daughters and loves them does he actually think I know what, let’s marry my beloved DD off to another man/DH and let him subject her to rape and DV because the law says I can. What a horrific mentality to have and perpetuate in law.

Sadly the men who do this have such a warped ingrained mindset that they will happily marry off/sell their daughters to suffer the same too.

They don't see them as human with rights and feelings.

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:37

Do we have Americans moving to this country and treating 10 year old girls in this way? I doubt it. However, we have a lot of issues with Muslim men and sexual abuse of girls in the UK - see Rochdale.

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:34

LurkingFromTheShadows · 09/11/2024 09:33

Age of "consent" = you can rape little girls so long as they're 9 and be protected by the law.

Fucking disgusting.

It's treating girls like property. It should be an international war crime

Ilikeblacklabsandicannotlie · 09/11/2024 09:33

@wrongthinker Here's a report on the extent child marriage in that well known Muslim country, the USA.
US child marriage

LurkingFromTheShadows · 09/11/2024 09:33

Age of "consent" = you can rape little girls so long as they're 9 and be protected by the law.

Fucking disgusting.

missymousey · 09/11/2024 09:33

hazelnutvanillalatte · 09/11/2024 07:57

Israel has maintained one of the lowest civilian to combatant ratios in the history of urban warfare, after a terrorist attack that literally decimated their population, and that was achieved by taking advantage of increased work permits and softening of the border.

"Literally decimated"? i.e killed 1 in 10 citizens? Check your facts!

Jifmicroliquid · 09/11/2024 09:33

This makes me feel sick. No 9 year old child can consent.
This is basically to make raping young girls ‘legal’.

Rosscameasdoody · 09/11/2024 09:31

nobody as yet has managed to show me the place in the Bible that says women can never be priests, yet many Christian sects still ban women from this.

Timothy, 2:12 ‘But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence’. In addition, in Timothy 2:12, St Paul said, ‘I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet’. When laying out the ground rules for worship services in 1 Corinthians 14: 33-35, Paul revisits this by placing clear restrictions on participation by women. Pastors must be able to teach and take spiritual authority over men in the church - the two most basic and important functions of the pastoral role. So the interpretation is that women cannot possibly meet the biblical qualifications to be a pastor. If they can’t meet the qualifications, they cannot be a pastor according to scripture.

Churches still prohibiting the participation of women take the stance that any church that hires a woman to be its pastor is defying the word of God, because Paul was an apostle. He spoke for Christ. Therefore, he spoke the words of Christ and of God himself.

Anyotherdude · 09/11/2024 09:31

Vanessashanessajenkins2 · 09/11/2024 09:19

Fair enough but for me faith helps me believe in something better to come. Its a very personal spiritual thing.

I don't look at the actions of humans who are weak, despicable and disgusting predators and judge the entire community because of it.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
I was brought up RC, and left the Church when the war on Iraq was declared.
I don’t need a religion “label” to be spiritual, but get that some people do. However, the absence of moral outrage expressed by followers is concerning: if Islam really is “the religion of peace”, why aren’t more followers in those and also in more enlightened countries speaking out against the more mediaeval thought processes that this religion seeks to push onto an unwilling population?

lasagnelle · 09/11/2024 09:30

GoldenGail · 09/11/2024 08:58

Its not just muslim countries. There are child marriages in the US with girls as young as 10 .

Urgh

itsgettingweird · 09/11/2024 09:28

Dreamerinme · 09/11/2024 07:55

It’s unbelievable in the 21st century that there are nations who are so utterly backwards and disgusting in their treatment of women and girls.

What kind of man in Iraq wants a 9yo wife? If he later has daughters and loves them does he actually think I know what, let’s marry my beloved DD off to another man/DH and let him subject her to rape and DV because the law says I can. What a horrific mentality to have and perpetuate in law.

That's an excellent thoughtful summary of the situation.

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:28

Vanessashanessajenkins2 · 09/11/2024 09:24

I see your point and it would be silly for me to say that's not the case because it can be the case.

I grew up in Bradford and have family there and friends still, and I can see that things are changing for girls like me. A lot of us are working and are very independent because of it, i have my own home. I was divorced but remarried who i chose. The laws changing re forced marriage has had a HUGE difference. I know girls that have been asked to marry cousins from abroad that have said NO and that they'll call the police if they feel threatened and they are living their best lives and marrying who they want. There are changes being made. I know sometimes it's hard to see. I can see that some of the old traditions that are cruel and unfair are disappearing. It can't disappear everywhere unfortunately but things are changing.

Thank you. I'm glad to hear this and I appreciate your measured and interesting reply.

BellissimoGecko · 09/11/2024 09:26

What can we do about this?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 09/11/2024 09:26

Is this proposed law justified on the grounds that the prophet Mohammed (reputedly, or so I’ve read) married a nine year old girl?

tuvamoodyson · 09/11/2024 09:25

SoupDragon · 09/11/2024 08:49

She didn't call anyone a racist idiot, she said that they sounded like one.

You, on the other hand, clearly insulted Muslims with your post. Nasty.

…and I would say that’s taking splitting hairs to the nth degree. Ridiculous.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/11/2024 09:25

However, I wonder how keen they would be for 9yo boys to be sexually active too? Are the similar age boy-children and their 'rights' in their consideration as well - or is this just a case of older men determined to abuse girls to get their jollies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

They'll happily exploit little boys as well.

Bacha bazi - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Vanessashanessajenkins2 · 09/11/2024 09:24

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:17

I agree.

I don't pick any religion over Islam. But Islam seems particularly dictatorial and cruel to women. I don't like the creep of it in this country and being afraid of being called racist is allowing a lot of women and girls to be treated appallingly. I'm not OK with that.

I see your point and it would be silly for me to say that's not the case because it can be the case.

I grew up in Bradford and have family there and friends still, and I can see that things are changing for girls like me. A lot of us are working and are very independent because of it, i have my own home. I was divorced but remarried who i chose. The laws changing re forced marriage has had a HUGE difference. I know girls that have been asked to marry cousins from abroad that have said NO and that they'll call the police if they feel threatened and they are living their best lives and marrying who they want. There are changes being made. I know sometimes it's hard to see. I can see that some of the old traditions that are cruel and unfair are disappearing. It can't disappear everywhere unfortunately but things are changing.

jeaux90 · 09/11/2024 09:24

Disgraceful.

And the world allows this to happen because they don't give a shit about women and girls.

UN are completely useless. The only one that speaks out is Reem Alsalem but it seems they aren't listening.

Brananan · 09/11/2024 09:23

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