Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

It was normal for young girls to be married at a young age in the olden days.
It was also normal to have slaves and god knows what else

It was normal in biblical times because life expectancy was around 30 years.

After the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah Lots’ daughters got him drunk and seduced him - they were living in an isolated area and there was a shortage of sexual partners.

Ahh ok that makes it ok then.

So it’s ok as long as there is a shortage of sexual partners, got it.

Or perhaps we should say these books aren’t fact and even if they were, times have changed and we shouldn’t condone sex with children or incest etc just because it was written in a book.

We know that having sex with a child is wrong.
It shouldn’t matter what was written in a book 100s of years ago.

I find the most disturbing news recently to be that yet another woman in the US has died because of miscarriage complications after basically being sent home to bleed out because the draconian abortion laws introduced in some states see certain interventions as abortion and threaten medics, as well as the women concerned, with imprisonment. I also find it disturbing that several women in the US have been accused of illegal abortion after having miscarriages, and were imprisoned until it could be proven otherwise. And that since the rescinding of Roe v Wade in the US, an unprecedented number of women in the UK have been investigated in relation to the 1967 abortion laws.

I think 14 is too young and yes I do realise teenaged have sex, but I much prefer 16.14 should not be it in any country

JFC! Those poor girls.

Even in ‘safer’ countries like the UAE, it only recently became possible for women to drive alone.

Tbf that's completely untrue. Women have recently been allowed to drive in Saudi, are you thinking of that perhaps?

The bible doesn’t ‘encourage’ fathers to have sex with their daughters. The specific instance was in the Old Testament. After the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah Lots’ daughters got him drunk and seduced him - they were living in an isolated area and there was a shortage of sexual partners. Marriage between cousins and half siblings was common until the laws of Moses, but Leviticus and Deuteronomy set out a clear list of prohibited relationships including parents, siblings and even in laws. Marriage to a brother or sister in law was prohibited during the lifetime of the original spouse, even if divorced.

I came on here to say the same thing about women drivers in Dubai. From a quick google, it looks as if certain websites, as well as AI, think the UAE and Saudi Arabia are the same place. To the best of my memory, the driving ban for women was lifted in 2018 in Saudia Arabia which as you obviously know, is a completely different country to the UAE.

I came on here to say this.

That poster knows the meaning of neither "literally" nor "decimated".

No but I was discussing the link that was shared about the USA.

I actually live in Iraq so thought I would comment. This was not passed and “quietly” disappeared - there was huge public backlash, protests in the street etc, and pressure from UNICEF and other organisations present in Iraq - especially from female led organisations, of which there are quite a few. It has now mainly been “forgotten” by those who tried to raise the bill and is not going to be voted on.

Well when men stop raping women and pregnancy is risk free for all we can talk about it but until then I’d say responsible is a better adjective.

Jesus! This is truly awful.

I had to read this twice, it’s actually medically dangerous for a girl to be pregnant at that age and can lead to fistulas which is essentially a tear between the vaginal canal causing bowel movements to be uncontrolled

And you don’t think that stockpiling abortion pills is 1 - hysterical and 2 - disturbing, given that contraception is a better option? Abortion shouldn’t be viewed as regular contraception.

Oh I see.

we are only worried about child marriage when it’s in the US. It’s ok when other people do it.

“Hysterical” wow the world really is turning backwards.

Oh…and how is that affecting millions of women right now?

what’s that? it isn’t? you just want a bit of whatabouterry?

Perhaps the hysterical women stockpiling abortion pills might be better off buying contraceptives?

Women could drive alone in the UAE in 1985 and for all I know had been able to for a long time before that. Why are you making stuff up and presenting it as fact?

All of the females having sex/babies in the bible are under 12.

That’s no excuse to lower the age.

It was normal for young girls to be married at a young age in the olden days.
It was also normal to have slaves and god knows what else.

In the bible it was also encouraged for fathers to have sex with their daughters.

But we know these things are not ok and you can’t use a book from hundreds of years ago as an excuse.

The book or religion is irrelevant.
If they didn’t exist men would still be doing these things.

Tbh I read it as it is the father of the poor child can consent to the 'marriage' of their daughter. I don't think women and girls have much they can consent to in Iraq.

lol have you read the Talmud? The attitude towards children in that is pretty interesting.

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