Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

I would pretty much say Hamas using tunnels and dug outs under hospitals and schools is pretty much one of the definitions of ‘human shield’. There’s proof this is where most of Hamas are stationed. I think the West should send as much help as possible in to Gaza to eradicate Hamas. Getting rid of the terrorists would end the war, the hostages released and normal life resumed.

Not to the extent of killing 41000 civilians, no. And various organisations which have investigated Israels’ claims that Hamas are using the population as human shields, have found no evidence of it that meets international law. They considered Israel to be using human shielding allegations to justify their own war crimes against civilians, saying that when state actors, such as Israel, kill civilians, it’s become standard to describe them as human shields. And Israel’s response is widely considered to be neither reasonable nor proportionate under international law. You neglected to mention that the IDS have been using kidnapped Palestinians as human shields themselves. Forcing them into booby trapped homes and tunnels ahead of the soldiers. How is that any different ?

I don’t really think this is a Islamic issue. I think that some men, not all men but certainly enough of them, are abusive predators. They find their ways into positions of authority and use it as a shield against their own transgressions and enable the abuse of others. We see it everywhere police, charitable organisations (aid workers trading food for sex?), religious institutions, Hollywood, Harrods.

None of it is acceptable. Should we condemn each and every ingress against womens and girls rights, absolutely. My issue is not with Islam in Afghanistan or Iraq it’s with the men who are imposing their own “interpretations” which infringes on the rights and freedoms of women and girls and enables abuse.

There are plenty of Muslims who would disagree with hardline sharia law. The arguement shouldn’t be about religion. It’s those of us who think woman and girls should have autonomy, be respected and their voices heard against those who don’t . Regardless of religion or race.

I didn’t know about this until the Telegraph reported it & it’s absolutely disgusting.

Attempts to try to minimise it by saying it’s old news or whatever is horrible also. What if it were your daughter or even yourself as a 9 year old? Why is the whole world not appalled by this?

I did say this thread was to demonise Muslims and therefore justify what Israel is doing didn’t I? It’s not about women’s rights. If they cared about women/children they would be mourning the deaths of so many in Palestine instead of supporting and justifying it.

International law says you can’t hold civilian hostages yet over a hundred are still being held including babies. It also says you can’t use humans as shields but Hamas builds tunnels and stores weapons under schools and hospitals . If Hamas surrender and give up the hostages the killing stops instantly so it’s in their hands. If it was your child or grandchild being held after the rest of the family was slaughtered wouldn’t you want your government to do all it takes to save them???

Maybe Hamas should have built some air raid shelters like Israel had to when their civilians have been endlessly rocketed at.

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

I say this genuinely but please explain how Islam gave them women's rights. I'm really not being argumentative as someone married to a Muslim and so are our DC. But I've been told this many times and still none the wiser as to how as nobody who said it could elaborate substantially. I think I was merely told once, "They keep their name."

70% of those killed in Gaza by Israel are women and children. Better off dead yeah?

I don’t really think this is a Islamic issue. I think that some men, not all men but certainly enough of them, are abusive predators. They find their ways into positions of authority and use it as a shield against their own transgressions and enable the abuse of others. We see it everywhere police, charitable organisations (aid workers trading food for sex?), religious institutions, Hollywood, Harrods.

None of it is acceptable. Should we condemn each and every ingress against womens and girls rights, absolutely. My issue is not with Islam in Afghanistan or Iraq it’s with the men who are imposing their own “interpretations” which infringes on the rights and freedoms of women and girls and enables abuse.

There are plenty of Muslims who would disagree with hardline sharia law. The arguement shouldn’t be about religion. It’s those of us who think woman and girls should have autonomy, be respected and their voices heard against those who don’t . Regardless of religion or race.

In its purest form Islam confers massive respect and a great deal of autonomy upon women, but of course that doesn't suit some

I've never seen that side of Islam although I've read that it exists. Are Muslims free to practice a form of Islam where women have complete autonomy?

"Massive respect" doesn't really mean anything tbh.

Yeah, the Israeli army is treating Palestinian women and girls real well right now, huh?

Fucking hell.

And women in Afghanistan not allowed to speak, even to one another.

The horrors of life for women and girls in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries hardly bears thinking about. Not sure what Western governments can do other than condemning these laws and giving their support to Israel.

I say this genuinely but please explain how Islam gave them women's rights. I'm really not being argumentative as someone married to a Muslim and so are our DC. But I've been told this many times and still none the wiser as to how as nobody who said it could elaborate substantially. I think I was merely told once, "They keep their name."

Do you believe Islamic and western countries have equitable rights for women and girls?

Can you say more about where you would choose to live or bring up a dd