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Wondering if colleague did this on purpose

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WilloWhisperer · 08/11/2024 19:24

Today I had an important meeting arranged which I have been organising since July. In the end I rearranged my schedule to work today (I work for this company and have my own small business where I usually see clients on a Friday so had a lot of logistics to arrange).

The meeting was at 12 and so our senior consultant wanted me to go through some things in the morning. I told our whole team where I would be, asking them to get me when the people I was expecting had arrived.

The layout is a line of offices which are tucked away. The senior consultant and I had the door shut as we were discussing confidential information, furthest away from the entrance. There is a junior colleague who always huffs that she has to show people where these particular rooms are (she is sort of part of our team but in a different capacity)

I came out of the office at 12.10 to see if the people I had a meeting with were here yet. No one had got me so I thought they might be late. After a bit of investigating, she said “I looked around and couldn’t find you, so they left”. She said she asked around. But none of my team saw her come up the corridor. All she had to do was ask my whereabouts and any of them would have known where I was/ to come and get me. They were all working with their doors open.

She has form for doing things “to prove a point” so I’m wondering if she has done this on purpose? I don’t know when I/they am going to be able to rearrange and we will probably lose work because of this.

OP posts:
SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 08/11/2024 22:10

WilloWhisperer · 08/11/2024 21:05

Omg some one who gets it!

No, but you could have said 'Excuse me, I'm expecting guests at 12 and need to check if they have arrived'.

whatatodoaboutnothing · 08/11/2024 22:08

So you told your colleague what room to find you in when your guests arrived and they didn’t come and tell you?

I don’t understand the benefit to them for doing that? All sounds a bit odd, do you not have messenger/ emails so your guests could have contacted you to say you’d arrived?
could you not have told your guests what meeting room
you were in?

all sounds a bit shambolic tbh

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 08/11/2024 22:07

It was a bit of an expensive mess, and, as others have said, arguably not sensible of you to just assume that your important visitors were late when they didn't appear by 12, rather than going to reception to look for them or phoning their mobiles.
Rather than getting this junior colleague into trouble (whose job it isn't to find you anyway), how about creating a failsafe process to follow when visitors are expected? And sort out who is responsible for bringing together staff and visitors. If this woman didn't bother to find you because she was annoyed at being asked, that is a weak spot in the organisation that needs sorting out.
I can imagine how furious you are (like I was when a medical receptionist told the doctor I had not turned up for an important appointment. I arrived early and then popped out for five minutes, then come back and was sitting a few feet away from her desk, but she didn't look round to check, just told the doc I had 'gone away'.).

stichguru · 08/11/2024 22:07

Yeah - you were expecting people to arrive and they didn't, so neither you nor your boss went to find them. Weird.

Brefugee · 08/11/2024 22:03

WilloWhisperer · 08/11/2024 20:26

I can see how many people would say “you should have been waiting” which in many ways is true but that’s not how places I have worked for, and not this business, work.

It really is normal for people to interrupt you with a “XYZ is here” and how we operate. Imagine if the other team were running late and I would have cut off the consultant to stand around like a dick waiting for them.

Edited

have not read all your posts but you do have a lot of excuses.

for important meetings for SURE you tell senior consultants that you have to stop now and go and greet the guests. For SURE you position other colleagues to greet the guests too, with you or without you.

You adopt a belt and braces approach, and if it goes tits up you don't blame others.

So lessons learned, reschedule and do it properly next time.

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:59

WilloWhisperer · 08/11/2024 21:05

Omg some one who gets it!

No.

She might agree with you but she certainly doesn't "get it".

Setyoufree · 08/11/2024 21:59

Bit weird - they're internal clients? Why didn't they just go to the booked meeting room themselves?

But otherwise I would have told the senior consultant who you had a meeting with, that they won't tolerate lateness, and that you're free until 11:55. I'd have left if you didn't turn up by 12:10 too.

CharlieUniformNovemberTangoYankee · 08/11/2024 21:57

Bottom line is that your carefully arranged meeting didn't happen and the company will lose money as a result. You can blame your colleague and (weirdly) defend the senior consultant as much as you like, but this could all have been avoided had you double-checked whether the other attendees had arrived, rather than relying on someone who 'has form for doing things to prove a point'. Why take the risk? Your employer is unlikely to give a shit that Sandra didn't tell you the client had arrived, or that the senior consultant is 'set in his ways' - it all just sounds like excuses. They will give a shit about the cost to them though and it'll be you that they blame.
Not to say that you shouldn't find out if Sandra stitched you up and, if so, deal with her. She sounds like a piece of work....

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:57

"... She was in the building, prepared, had told her team where she was and was going to come as soon as called.

OP was fine"

No she wasn't.

She hadn't told the person most likely to meet the meeting attendees on arrival!

As that person wasn't aware that the OP was actually in on what for the OP is a non-working day, this is mostly down to the OP.

(And down to the "senior consultant" who is so set in his ways and on no account can be inconvenienced in any way...)

Edingril · 08/11/2024 21:53

Isn't it called projecting?

Peahen81 · 08/11/2024 21:51

This is crazy. You needed to inform the member of staff who does the fetching that you are expecting someone. Even more so as it’s not usually your working day!
(You also come across as thinking yourself very superior to this person. You should treat everyone with respect regardless of their role. You are clearly in the ‘she JUST does admin brigade when actually you know little about her wider role in the company)

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:50

AGoingConcern · 08/11/2024 20:48

OP.

Did you bother to tell this person who you knew would likely be the one who received these visitors that you were (very unusually) in today, that you were expecting people to arrive at noon for an important meeting, and where she could find you?

Edited

And again...

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:49

Jom222 · 08/11/2024 20:45

I sit at reception and had this occurred at my office the person expecting Important Visitors would have stopped by my desk first thing to let me know-

a-that they were in office today (bc you're not normally in)
b-that Important Visitors were expected at noon and exactly who they are
c-where to direct them to
d-where I would be so I could be informed immediately upon their arrival after they've been escorted to conf room

It does sound like there's an attitude problem BUT you also were delinquent imho.

And this ^

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:48

@AGameOfPatience :

"a) You don't usually work Fridays and I think I'm right in saying that you didn't tell this person - the one you would ordinarily expect to shepherd guests - that, unusually you were in fact in, and where. You only told your team. If so, that is not great planning on your part and this woman is not a mind-reader.

b) You did not alert this person to the fact you were waiting for important clients/colleagues full stop, yet expected her to be available to facilitate their arrival, fetch you, and understand the ramifications of failing to do so. That is also poor planning given that you knew how crucial this meeting was.

c) You failed to extract yourself from your prior meeting on time on the presumption that someone else would keep your appointment and schedule for you. You've unfairly and unwisely decided to rely on nebulous "others" to ensure you link up.

d) You also seem to lack polite assertiveness with your senior consultant from whom you should be able to excuse yourself for your next meeting."

And this ^

MissAmbrosia · 08/11/2024 21:48

Sounds to me like you are determined to blame her for your own failing. Even Senior Partners/CEOs are human beings who can understand you have to leave or take 2 mins to make alternative arrangements.

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:46

nadine90 · 08/11/2024 20:41

But you either knew that she would be responsible for this guest or that she would be one of 2 people responsible for the guest. And you knew what time the client was due to come in. Yet you couldn't be bothered to speak to her, knowing how important the meeting was?

And this ^

(We can conclude that the OP never told her because the OP has previously said that this person knows that the OP doesn't work on Fridays so she might have thought it was a mistake thet these people thought they had a meeting with the OP)

Manxexile · 08/11/2024 21:44

AGoingConcern · 08/11/2024 20:40

First, I think the fact this was an internal meeting with people from a different floor in your office and not clients is key info. I expect any employee to go out of their way being proactive in order to make sure a client didn’t leave frustrated with a bad impression. But running around to accommodate for internal parties’ poor coordination? Not so much.

You told your team where you’d be, but your team sit in out of the way offices.
So did you ever bother to tell this particular person - the one apparently most likely to know the other parties had arrived despite it not actually being her job - that you were in today for this important meeting despite usually working for another company entirely on Fridays and would be back in the Sr. Consultant’s office, so if she could please be so kind as to let you know when they arrive you’d appreciate it? Or did you have a conference room set aside and let these other internal parties know that’s where you’d be meeting so they could just go there?

I’m guessing you could use your seniority to dump this on your junior colleague and avoid taking responsibility. But did you really act like a good teammate here yourself, being proactive with arrangements and showing respect for your colleagues’ time?

Edited

This ^

(Although I'm not sure the meeting attendees were in the same building)

EatingHealthy · 08/11/2024 21:35

Why on earth didn't you tell the person whose job it is to 'receive' people that you were expecting guests? Everywhere I've ever worked that's been standard practice - you tell reception who you're expecting and let them know who to contact when they arrive.

forgotmypassagain · 08/11/2024 21:20

luckylavender · 08/11/2024 19:43

It's perfectly normal In my office and clients I visit to have visitors brought to you. It would also be totally inappropriate to wait in Reception.

And even more inappropriate and downright weird to not go looking for them when it’s 12:05.

AGoingConcern · 08/11/2024 21:16

I can’t help noticing you’ve skipped answering whether you bothered to tell this person - arguably the person who needed to know - that you were in the office today, expecting guests, and where to take them when they arrived.

…for this very important meeting that you didn’t appear for until 10 minutes after the scheduled time.

You didn’t need to sit in your office staring into space for 15 minutes or wait by the elevator. Excusing yourself from your prior meeting at 5 ‘till to “go make sure the conference room was ready and you have your materials” and going up front at noon or a minute after check if your guests have arrived is the right choice for an important meeting, however. Part of being senior is helping set tone for he department, so you do need to be proactive, show respect for your colleagues’ time (including the junior ones), and take responsibility for what you should have done better before blaming others.

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 08/11/2024 21:16

LadyLapsang · 08/11/2024 21:07

Your processes sound very disorganised. We would be expected to inform reception the previous day, provide the names of the clients together with their organisations, the name and phone number of the person charged with meeting and greeting (who would have agreed to do this) and the name and mobile number of the organiser together with details of the room booked, so if the meet and greet person is unavailable a receptionist can come to the room to check. You would be expected to be in the room ready to start the meeting on time.

The same for my office...........but its a huge corporate office with procedures and security in place.

The OP must work for a pretty small outfit and I'm interested to know if random people can just walk in? Who buzzes them in? Presumably security? Or some kind of caretaker? Does security just phone upstairs to whatever extension number they say they are meeting and the visitors have to wait in the lobby until someone comes down to them?

Bestyearever2024 · 08/11/2024 21:14

WilloWhisperer · 08/11/2024 20:16

We have brought it up before that the system isn’t great. Unfortunately it’s not our call about who we have managing the area. On the days it’s not her things work much better

So.......you know she's dodgy and isn't a great team player

Yet knowing this and knowing it was Dodgy Worker who would greet the team you'd been organising to meet SINCE JULY......you waited til 12.10 to start the meeting

And then were horrified that they'd buggered off

How odd 🤔

How very odd 🤣

Ormally · 08/11/2024 21:12

They were expecting to meet you.
They'd made all arrangements with you.
The impression they got was that you were AWOL at the meeting time, whether or not you thought you had made it clear what to do to someone else who was not really beholden to you.
Who will they feel was it who stood them up, you, or apparently the nearest thing to a reception colleague, but not actually a receptionist?

potatocakesinprogress · 08/11/2024 21:11

BarbaraHoward · 08/11/2024 20:58

The senior consultant knew she was available until the guests arrived, so he wasn't going to tell her to leave at 11:45 just because Outlook had her marked as busy.

Likewise OP could hardly say "I'm going to leave our meeting now even though we haven't finished talking and the guests aren't here yet. I just want to sit at my desk watching the door".

She was in the building, prepared, had told her team where she was and was going to come as soon as called.

OP was fine.

And yet, if she'd gone out at 12 (or a minute past) instead of 12 minutes past, she would have been fine. You know, since the meeting was scheduled to start at 12 and not quarter past.

A normal person would have wrapped up the first meeting at five to and said, "I'm sorry, I've got that other meeting at 12 but please do email me if there's anything you think we haven't covered and I'll pick it up as soon as I can."

You wouldn't rely on a junior or your team to find you, you can't delegate your own timekeeping and take people away from their jobs to try to. Plus juniors hate interrupting meetings.

Foxblue · 08/11/2024 21:09

Sorry, so you had a meeting booked for (I assume) 12 -1, they turned up, couldn't find you, left after 10 minutes, then ignored your phone calls for 30 minutes even though they were meant to be in a meeting with you? And they didn't try and ring you? What kind of business are you working for???